Recruiting Draft Watch 2020

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Spoiler: eDPS 2020 Phantom Draft

Spoiler: Lore's 2020 Draft Order

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Spoiler: Draft Central Draft Guide

 

[Yoda_]

If we get him past his ACL issues then yes please

IF we go into draft night with 6 / 7 / 8 and Ellijah lasts then we absolutely can take the risk on him

 

[Schnitzengruben]

The last top 10 pick we selected turned out alright (hi Michael Hurley

18

Michael Hurley

Age

35

Ht

193cm

Wt

94kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

18.3

5star

K

12.1

4star

HB

6.2

4star

M

6.4

5star

T

0.9

3star

MG

389.3

5star

D

16.5

4star

K

11.8

5star

HB

4.7

3star

M

6.3

5star

T

0.3

1star

MG

301.2

4star

D

15.0

4star

K

7.6

3star

HB

7.4

5star

M

5.0

5star

T

2.0

4star

)

Francis?

 

[Yoda_]

Francis?

Key defender

 

[11kgm]

IF we go into draft night with 6 / 7 / 8 and Ellijah lasts then we absolutely can take the risk on him

No doubt he is much better then perkins, Hollands/Thilly Cox and Reid yes please take it the bank

 

[Dons4Life]

No doubt he is much better then perkins, Hollands/Thilly Cox and Reid yes please take it the bank

If it’s thilthorpe who slides there’s no way we take Cox and Reid. Would have to be at least taking 1 mid in the 3 picks especially if we are taking Brand and Eyre

 

[DapperJong]

Key defender

What am I missing here.

Also we drafted Hurls with the intention to play forward did we not?

 

[citizen-erased]

If it’s thilthorpe who slides there’s no way we take Cox and Reid. Would have to be at least taking 1 mid in the 3 picks especially if we are taking Brand and Eyre

If he slipped that far, i'd expect the Crows to make a move on pick 6 as well.

We are sitting nicely having those run of picks.

 

[The Dustbin]

Our deficiency is clearly a KPF. If we trade up for pick 2, is McDonald actually ready to fill the void and play from round 1 as a KPF at AFL level?

 

[Dons4Life]

If he slipped that far, i'd expect the Crows to make a move on pick 6 as well.

We are sitting nicely having those run of picks.

Would think dodoro would want a bloody good offer. Would 9 and future 2nd cut it.

 

[Ati Tude]

What am I missing here.

Also we drafted Hurls with the intention to play forward did we not?

Pretty sure he largely started as a defender - I remember Hurley beating Nick Riewoldt in a 1 on 1 in that game that was Saints first loss in 2009 or thereabouts that was early in his career and thinking we really had someone there. We mucked him around for a couple of years as a forward after that as part of the try every key defender as a forward policy that saw Hurley, Carlisle and Hooker all get their chance.

 

[DapperJong]

Pretty sure he largely started as a defender - I remember Hurley beating Nick Riewoldt in a 1 on 1 in that game that was Saints first loss in 2009 or thereabouts that was early in his career and thinking we really had someone there. We mucked him around for a couple of years as a forward after that as part of the try every key defender as a forward policy that saw Hurley, Carlisle and Hooker all get their chance.

Actually I remember the Tredrea game too.

 

[citizen-erased]

Our deficiency is clearly a KPF. If we trade up for pick 2, is McDonald actually ready to fill the void and play from round 1 as a KPF at AFL level?

Would think Wright is FF in Rd.1 2021.
Stewart CHF unless he goes back and someone else steps in (Jones perhaps?)
Stringer as 3rd tall.

Can't think of too many KPF's who came straight into AFL.

 

[Dons4Life]

Our deficiency is clearly a KPF. If we trade up for pick 2, is McDonald actually ready to fill the void and play from round 1 as a KPF at AFL level?

Wouldn’t be taking him to be an instant success but more eyeing off 3-4 years into his career when we hopefully would be in a better position to contend.

 

[citizen-erased]

Actually I remember the Tredrea game too.

fondly.

 

[Howard Moon]

Actually I remember the Tredrea game too.

The fwd experiment started when he kicked 4 and won us the game v haw when Lloyd smashed Sewell's face in

Held him back for years as a defender

 

[citizen-erased]

Would think dodoro would want a bloody good offer. Would 9 and future 2nd cut it.

I'd take that.
Next year runs deep.

 

[GUMBLETRON]

What am I missing here.

Francis isn't really a key defender, he just plays one on the telly.

 

[BrunoV]

Our deficiency is clearly a KPF. If we trade up for pick 2, is McDonald actually ready to fill the void and play from round 1 as a KPF at AFL level?

No kid is ever ready to fill that void. WAFL form is good but the key defenders at the lower level are small plodders compared to their counterparts at AFL level. The form likely holds him in good stead for the future as he develops.

 

[TheFrenchCut]

Regarding the KPD in the first round thing, here's the top ten KPDs this season according to different rating systems and where they were drafted. Before anyone gets bogged down in it, yes the KPD rating systems are a bit weird and there are outliers, but you get the general gist of it.

AFL player ratings top 10 KPDs
Harris Andrews

31

Harris Andrews

Age

29

Ht

200cm

Wt

98kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

12.8

3star

K

7.4

3star

HB

5.4

4star

M

5.6

5star

T

1.6

4star

MG

151.7

2star

D

17.0

4star

K

9.0

4star

HB

8.0

4star

M

4.0

4star

T

2.0

3star

D

9.8

3star

K

5.0

2star

HB

4.8

4star

M

3.4

4star

T

1.6

4star

MG

94.0

2star

- pick 61
Jeremy McGovern

20

Jeremy Mcgovern

Age

33

Ht

197cm

Wt

97kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

14.7

4star

K

10.1

4star

HB

4.6

3star

M

6.8

5star

T

1.5

3star

MG

238.7

4star

D

12.4

3star

K

8.6

3star

HB

3.8

3star

M

6.4

5star

T

2.0

3star

MG

183.4

3star

D

11.0

3star

K

8.8

4star

HB

2.2

2star

M

7.2

5star

T

1.4

4star

- rookie draft, pick 44
Dane Rampe

24

Dane Rampe

Age

35

Ht

187cm

Wt

89kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

17.0

4star

K

10.6

4star

HB

6.4

4star

M

4.9

5star

T

2.5

4star

MG

358.8

5star

D

14.1

3star

K

9.0

4star

HB

5.1

3star

M

3.4

3star

T

1.5

2star

MG

284.5

4star

D

10.6

3star

K

7.2

3star

HB

3.4

3star

M

2.4

3star

T

1.4

4star

- rookie draft, pick 37
Mark Blicavs

46

Mark Blicavs

Age

34

Ht

198cm

Wt

101kg

Pos.

D/M

Career

Season

Last 5

D

14.5

4star

K

6.6

3star

HB

7.9

5star

M

4.1

4star

T

4.2

5star

MG

114.1

2star

D

11.1

3star

K

7.1

3star

HB

4.0

3star

M

3.9

4star

T

1.9

3star

MG

114.1

2star

D

8.6

3star

K

2.0

1star

HB

6.6

4star

M

1.8

2star

T

1.6

4star

- cat b rookie
Tom Barrass

37

Tom Barrass

Age

30

Ht

197cm

Wt

96kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

12.2

3star

K

8.8

3star

HB

3.4

3star

M

6.1

5star

T

0.9

3star

MG

158.5

3star

D

10.1

3star

K

8.0

3star

HB

2.1

2star

M

5.6

5star

T

0.3

1star

MG

139.6

2star

D

11.4

3star

K

7.2

3star

HB

4.2

4star

M

5.2

5star

T

0.4

3star

MG

160.0

3star

- pick 43
Lyke Ryan - pick 66
Aliir Aliir

21

Aliir Aliir

Age

31

Ht

194cm

Wt

96kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

15.2

4star

K

9.3

4star

HB

5.9

4star

M

5.2

5star

T

1.9

4star

MG

240.9

4star

D

11.0

3star

K

6.0

2star

HB

5.0

3star

M

3.0

3star

T

2.0

3star

D

13.0

4star

K

6.4

3star

HB

6.6

4star

M

3.8

4star

T

2.0

4star

MG

158.4

3star

- pick 44
Darcy Moore - pick 9
Cale Hooker

26

Cale Hooker

Age

37

Ht

198cm

Wt

103kg

Pos.

D/F

Career

Season

Last 5

D

16.2

4star

K

8.2

3star

HB

8.0

5star

M

6.3

5star

T

1.8

4star

MG

213.6

3star

D

11.8

3star

K

5.8

2star

HB

6.0

3star

M

5.0

5star

T

0.8

1star

MG

107.0

2star

D

14.6

4star

K

3.2

2star

HB

11.4

5star

M

4.4

4star

T

1.4

4star

- pick 54
Jacob Weitering - pick 1

(2/10 taken in the first round, with Moore having been a swingman but more KPF at first)

Stats Insider top 10 KPDs
Andrews - p 61
Steven May

1

Steven May

Age

34

Ht

193cm

Wt

101kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

14.7

4star

K

10.5

4star

HB

4.2

3star

M

5.1

5star

T

1.5

3star

MG

307.3

4star

D

15.5

4star

K

12.1

5star

HB

3.4

2star

M

3.4

3star

T

0.5

1star

MG

378.4

5star

D

12.4

4star

K

8.8

4star

HB

3.6

3star

M

3.2

4star

T

1.8

4star

- priority zone
Moore - p 9 (as a swingman, but more KPF)
Weitering - p 1
McGovern - rd, p 44
Dylan Grimes

2

Dylan Grimes

Age

34

Ht

194cm

Wt

92kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

11.6

3star

K

6.3

2star

HB

5.3

4star

M

3.9

4star

T

2.4

4star

MG

136.0

2star

D

12.2

3star

K

7.4

3star

HB

4.8

3star

M

4.7

4star

T

1.4

2star

MG

136.0

2star

D

9.4

3star

K

3.8

2star

HB

5.6

4star

M

3.0

3star

T

1.0

3star

- psd, p 2
Tom Jonas - rd, p 16
Ben McEvoy

7

Ben Mcevoy

Age

36

Ht

200cm

Wt

101kg

Pos.

F/R

Career

Season

Last 5

D

11.6

3star

K

4.7

2star

HB

6.9

4star

M

4.2

4star

T

3.0

5star

G

0.4

3star

D

8.5

2star

K

3.9

1star

HB

4.6

3star

M

2.8

3star

T

1.8

3star

G

0.4

3star

D

6.0

2star

K

3.0

1star

HB

3.0

3star

M

3.0

3star

T

1.2

3star

G

0.0

1star

- p 9 (as a ruckman)
Robbie Tarrant

6

Robbie Tarrant

Age

36

Ht

196cm

Wt

96kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

14.5

4star

K

9.4

4star

HB

5.1

4star

M

5.3

5star

T

1.8

4star

MG

284.7

4star

D

15.1

4star

K

11.9

5star

HB

3.3

2star

M

4.1

4star

T

1.5

2star

MG

359.3

5star

D

11.0

3star

K

6.4

3star

HB

4.6

4star

M

2.6

3star

T

2.4

4star

- p 15 (as a KPF)
Phil Davis - p 10

(5/9* taken in the first round)
*Excluding May (who was more of a KPF) because of zone selection
**Of the five, only Davis and Weitering were taken as defenders)
***For those wondering, Alex Rance

Alex Rance

Age

36

Ht

194cm

Wt

95kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

16.6

4star

K

8.9

3star

HB

7.7

5star

M

5.7

5star

T

2.4

4star

MG

226.9

3star

No current season stats available

D

17.0

5star

K

5.8

3star

HB

11.2

5star

M

5.0

5star

T

3.6

5star

was taken at pick 18.

Compared with the top 10 midfielders for instance:

Neale - p. 58
Martin - p. 3
Boak - p. 5
Steele - p. 24
Fyfe - p. 20
Dangerfield - p. 10
Petracca - p. 2
Merrett - p. 26
Bont - p. 4
Adams - p. 13

The average pick on this midfielder list is 16.5 - while bugger all currently "elite" KPDs have been taken with the intention of playing back below that.

 

[The Prosecutor]

Our deficiency is clearly a KPF. If we trade up for pick 2, is McDonald actually ready to fill the void and play from round 1 as a KPF at AFL level?

I would be expecting output similar to Max king

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this year.

 

[Bjchan13]

Would think dodoro would want a bloody good offer. Would 9 and future 2nd cut it.

Id hope for more. If Thilthorpe is still there they are essentially getting a player they have seriously considered at pick 1.

 

[BrunoV]

Seems to me that the dream scenario that is a chance of happening is Thilthorpe sliding to our first pick, 6, which then gives us a look at 2 mids.

 

[Vindicater]

So we will likely use 5 picks right? 6, 7, 8, Brand and Eyre?

 

[The Prosecutor]

So we will likely use 5 picks right? 6, 7, 8, Brand and Eyre?

Most likely.

 

[citizen-erased]

Seems to me that the dream scenario that is a chance of happening is Thilthorpe sliding to our first pick, 6, which then gives us a look at 2 mids.

Getting Thilthorpe would be worth losing out on Perkins.
I'd still grab Cox then figure out pick 8 from there...split, reach for an O'Driscoll, look another mid, start bidding on McInnes, Jones, etc.

Reid may not be the worst option either.
Draft would net us some good spine options.
Thilthorpe (FF)
Eyre (CHF/CHB)
Cox (CHF/CHB/wing?)
Brand (CHB/FB)
Reid (FB/CHB)

Allows one to not work out (as well as Zerk).
Though does go against my preference to pad the middle out.