Recruiting Draft Watch 2021

[eDPS]

eDPS's 2021 Draft Rankings

Lore's 2021 Provisional Draft Order
Any issues with it please tag Lore in this thread: https://www.bigfooty.com/forum/threads/2021-provisional-draft-order.1251001/

 

[eth-dog]

That’s his local club so that’s who he will play for regardless, not that it matters when he won’t play there again anytime soon

Yeah, VFL clubs often dictate which local clubs their players play for.

 

[eDPS]

Yeah, VFL clubs often dictate which local clubs their players play for.

He is tied to NAB League moreso and that arrangement is for them to play at their local clubs or VFL when NAB League isn’t on.

 

[Bipolar Bear]

Callow pls.

 

[Yoda_]

Callow pls.

Wont make it to us

 

[eDPS]

Callow pls.

Do we really need more talls? Baldwin just added who is very similar

 

[Bipolar Bear]

Do we really need more talls? Baldwin just added who is very similar

I strongly believe in going hard at a position we need. I think he could be a cheap Stringer replacement. I actually think he's going to be a star. Best Tassie tall since J. Reiwoldt.

 

[JayJ20]

Callow pls.

Hawthorn or Collingwood will take him. Plus, a forward isn't our priority.

Desperately need midfield depth + small defender.

 

[Bipolar Bear]

small defender.

We have an elite one on our list.
Could be the best in the league, but we're playing him as a midfielder because he has #1 draft capital.

 

[TheFrenchCut]

Hawthorn or Collingwood will take him. Plus, a forward isn't our priority.

Desperately need midfield depth + small defender.

The talk (Edmund on SEN) has been that North take Edwards, Hawks take Moyle, Collingwood want Stengle, Gold Coast take Buzza. If that eventuates, considering Saints (King, Marshall, Membrey), Crows (Thilthorpe and Fogarty) and Blues (McKay, McGovern - ew - Curnow) are all next up it's entirely possible he'd be available for us.

I can't speak to whether he's worth it since I haven't seen much of him. But I wouldn't have a problem with taking another KPF if we really rate him. KPF is the hardest position to project from junior and lower levels to AFL, so taking as many talents in this area as we can (within reason) makes sense to me. At this stage, there is no reason to believe Baldwin and Eyre will definitely work out as KPFs let alone as AFL players.

 

[andleanback]

I strongly believe in going hard at a position we need. I think he could be a cheap Stringer replacement. I actually think he's going to be a star. Best Tassie tall since J. Reiwoldt.

He’s nothing like Stringer to be a replacement.

 

[Yoda_]

The talk (Edmund on SEN) has been that North take Edwards, Hawks take Moyle, Collingwood want Stengle, Gold Coast take Buzza. If that eventuates, considering Saints (King, Marshall, Membrey), Crows (Thilthorpe and Fogarty) and Blues (McKay, McGovern - ew - Curnow) are all next up it's entirely possible he'd be available for us.

I can't speak to whether he's worth it since I haven't seen much of him. But I wouldn't have a problem with taking another KPF if we really rate him. KPF is the hardest position to project from junior and lower levels to AFL, so taking as many talents in this area as we can (within reason) makes sense to me. At this stage, there is no reason to believe Baldwin and Eyre will definitely work out as KPFs let alone as AFL players.

The other thing our group is failing to acknowledge is Jackson is playing and playing to a pretty reasonable standard at state league level. Baldwin can be rated as high as anyone but has simply not played, Eyre is averaging a huge 5.33possessions a game and iscurrently unavailable (although back this week possibly after concussion?).

Im not against taking a high productive KPF, would be competing with Baldwin for a spot at FF imho.

 

[citizen-erased]

I strongly believe in going hard at a position we need. I think he could be a cheap Stringer replacement. I actually think he's going to be a star. Best Tassie tall since J. Reiwoldt.

yeah, i like Callow for our first if he's there. We should be lining up a second pick for a crack at Baker or someone like that should we get Callow with the first.

Ideal Hooker replacement
Jones is the only certainty of our young talls.
Strikes me more like a Fogarty type though.

Would think Collingwood would give him a go. Even Carlton.
Though by end of weekend, i think we'll have a pick ahead of the Blues with 5 or 6.

 

[eth-dog]

We currently have on pick.

 

[Yoda_]

We seem to be the most speculative club come MSD selections at this point. We could go for any sort of player and justify it. From a small forward to a medium defender, inside mid to a key back (most speculative obviously).

 

[TheFrenchCut]

The other thing our group is failing to acknowledge is Jackson is playing and playing to a pretty reasonable standard at state league level. Baldwin can be rated as high as anyone but has simply not played, Eyre is averaging a huge 5.33possessions a game and iscurrently unavailable (although back this week possibly after concussion?).

Im not against taking a high productive KPF, would be competing with Baldwin for a spot at FF imho.

Yep and the other thing to consider is that while they're being placed on the list as KPFs, they may very well move to defence down the track if things aren't working out. I think I've read that Eyre had been used there at times in NAB League, while Callow has also spent some time in defence too.

This all hinges on how highly we rate him. If we think he's someone who with his recent form at SANFL level would be considered a top 20/30 prospect in a national draft, then we should go for it. I'm not sure this is how clubs think of him though.

 

[citizen-erased]

We seem to be the most speculative club come MSD selections at this point. We could go for any sort of player and justify it. From a small forward to a medium defender, inside mid to a key back (most speculative obviously).

mid rebuild and no depth will do that
if it were up to me i'd LTI Hurley & Caldwell and take 3 shots at it.
if no one is there at 2nd/3rd pick, pass and you can bring either in if needed.

 

[Harlequin Dream]

Are we sure Callow, Baldwin and Jones won't work as a trio? If both Callow and Baldwin translate well to the AFL it would be pretty formidable.

 

[eDPS]

Are we sure Callow, Baldwin and Jones won't work as a trio? If both Callow and Baldwin translate well to the AFL it would be pretty formidable.

Peter Wright will likely feature for the next few years at least and after that time I think Eyre gets the nod along with Jones for sure. Could be between Baldwin and Callow or an ageing Wright.

 

[eth-dog]

Are we sure Callow, Baldwin and Jones won't work as a trio? If both Callow and Baldwin translate well to the AFL it would be pretty formidable.

I think we have Jones as a potential starc centre half forward, two rucks that could be very good, as well as Stringer being 27 and Wright 24. The tall forward stocks right now are pretty strong

 

[Harlequin Dream]

Peter Wright will likely feature for the next few years at least and after that time I think Eyre gets the nod along with Jones for sure. Could be between Baldwin and Callow or an ageing Wright.

True. We also have to consider Bryan's role if he is #2 behind Draper.

I could see Eyre being a backman though. He has the athletic gifts for it and it might be easier for him to get involved in the game behind the ball.

 

[Hak94]

As far as I'm concerned, the way we're building and in terms of "needs" I don't think you can have enough of any position let alone KPF. We're in a phase as a club/team that we should be looking at bettering ourselves in all positions regardless of who plays there currently. Even if that means over compensating a little in a certain position. It's better to have "options" than none at all or little to not many in positions, let alone the fact that we really haven't had a dominant KPF since Lloyd played. I know we have Jones and Wright, with a few others in the wings developing but I think when it comes to the MSD that unless you have a specific need that needs to be filled as there is a massive hole in your list/best 22 than the way to go is to draft the best player available in your eyes. You'd be silly not too! At the end of the day to the contract is only what, a year and a half so it's not a massive deal if it's a bust with the player.

 

[Tazdog]

I think our KPF stocks are pretty good for the future. Wright Bryan and Jones to play as 1st,2nd, and 3rd talls, and If Baldwin or Eyre can knock off Wright then that is a huge bonus really. Until then, wait till the next Max/Ben King come along. No point really in getting players with B+ potential because it'll clog up our potential A graders and we can find other holes in our list to fill.

 

[Ants]

For me the needs are:

• Small Backs: other than Hird who is miles off it, we have no dedicated back depth behind Hind/Redman/Heppell. And Heppell ain't a spring chicken. We can play guys in the position (Cahill/Smith/Zaka/Guelfi) but none of them are really defenders. Between the MSD and ND we probably need two.
• Midfielders: Currently our only depth is Cahill. Sure we've got bad injuries here, but let me run that again. We currently have one depth midfielder left. Frankly, it doesn't matter if they're inside or outside, we need more.
• Small Forwards: We have Cahill and Johnson, but Johnson looks a bit off. Mozzie has question marks. This area probably needs bolstering, although Waterman looks good as does Perkins.

Between the MSD and ND we probably want 4-5 smalls, and if a few are options in multiple positions (such as wing/HF, wing/HB) it wouldn't go astray. If we had two picks in the MSD based on what I've read I'd quite like Clark and Preston (based entirely on reading about them here and elsewhere). Clark is inside/outside good mark big size. Preston is wing/HF, good pressure, speed, overhead and user.

We have an elite one on our list.
Could be the best in the league, but we're playing him as a midfielder because he has #1 draft capital.

We're playing him as a midfielder as at 22 years old he's looking like he'll be an elite mid. He's already pretty damn good every week in that role.

 

[Ants]

I think a lot of people are forgetting that Reid is also a key forward option. Prior to the 2020 draft, there was plenty of talk of who the best key forward was who would be available at our pick. Plenty argued Reid over Cox. And currently our back group looks pretty set (Stewart/Lav/Rids/Francis), with Brand, Zerk and McBride also competing as backup. Reid may need to play FF to get AFL games in the short-term!

The talk (Edmund on SEN) has been that North take Edwards, Hawks take Moyle, Collingwood want Stengle, Gold Coast take Buzza. If that eventuates, considering Saints (King, Marshall, Membrey), Crows (Thilthorpe and Fogarty) and Blues (McKay, McGovern - ew - Curnow) are all next up it's entirely possible he'd be available for us.

I can't speak to whether he's worth it since I haven't seen much of him. But I wouldn't have a problem with taking another KPF if we really rate him. KPF is the hardest position to project from junior and lower levels to AFL, so taking as many talents in this area as we can (within reason) makes sense to me. At this stage, there is no reason to believe Baldwin and Eyre will definitely work out as KPFs let alone as AFL players.

I think when you have Baldwin/Eyre/Reid/Bryan and arguably Ambrose as short and long-term options, then getting another potential FF fails the "within reason" test.

As far as I'm concerned, the way we're building and in terms of "needs" I don't think you can have enough of any position let alone KPF. We're in a phase as a club/team that we should be looking at bettering ourselves in all positions regardless of who plays there currently. Even if that means over compensating a little in a certain position. It's better to have "options" than none at all or little to not many in positions, let alone the fact that we really haven't had a dominant KPF since Lloyd played. I know we have Jones and Wright, with a few others in the wings developing but I think when it comes to the MSD that unless you have a specific need that needs to be filled as there is a massive hole in your list/best 22 than the way to go is to draft the best player available in your eyes. You'd be silly not too! At the end of the day to the contract is only what, a year and a half so it's not a massive deal if it's a bust with the player.

I think we definitely can. Wright and Jones look set, so we have all of a single spot up forward. We have four young talls who could potentially fill that position. Adding a fifth, when we desperately need smalls, seems to me quite silly.

 

[citizen-erased]

Are we sure Callow, Baldwin and Jones won't work as a trio? If both Callow and Baldwin translate well to the AFL it would be pretty formidable.

Peter Wright will likely feature for the next few years at least and after that time I think Eyre gets the nod along with Jones for sure. Could be between Baldwin and Callow or an ageing Wright.

I think we have Jones as a potential starc centre half forward, two rucks that could be very good, as well as Stringer being 27 and Wright 24. The tall forward stocks right now are pretty strong

I think our KPF stocks are pretty good for the future. Wright Bryan and Jones to play as 1st,2nd, and 3rd talls, and If Baldwin or Eyre can knock off Wright then that is a huge bonus really. Until then, wait till the next Max/Ben King come along. No point really in getting players with B+ potential because it'll clog up our potential A graders and we can find other holes in our list to fill.

if you look at what's working for us now;

Hooker @ FF
Jones @ CHF
Wright @ Fwd/Ruck
Stringer/Waterman as a bigger bodied 4th
Langford/Perkins on the flanks
Tippa/Snelling as the small.

Hooker is the one where we need to concentrate on
Take him out it's down to kids with <2 games experience

Lots of pieces/sliding doors based on who comes on out of Bryan (ruck/fwd), Baldwin & Eyre.
Another option in Callow wouldn't hurt.