He's going to be frighteningly good, amazing skillMelbourne certainly drafted themselves a class little player with Kysaiah Picket at 12 in 2019!
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He's going to be frighteningly good, amazing skillMelbourne certainly drafted themselves a class little player with Kysaiah Picket at 12 in 2019!
I've actually completed a video just last night covering my top-100 players from the 2016-2020 drafts. To give a spoiler, the Pies are the only club without a player I categorised as top-50 during that period of time. With a few of the past Pies who have moved inside my top-100 in Stephenson and Phillips, both of whom I still rate.
Through the draft, Collingwood's involvement has actually been minimal. Lots of F/S picks, lots of NGA picks. Lots of trading out of early picks. Nick Daicos who is coming through this year is another in that long line of picks that are chosen for us and means again minimal involvement expected again this offseason.
My understanding of Collingwood's recruiting department is that it's smaller in size than the vast majority of clubs which won't have helped with results and suggests to me Derek probably doesn't have enough support around him.
I'm not necessarily down on Collingwood's drafting as much as Collingwood's salary cap management and trading/free agency decisions - both in those coming and going. I see that as where Collingwood has gotten absolutely killed over this recent stretch of years. Be it the Beams trade (back in), Treloar trade (out), Stephenson (out), Phillips (out), Witts (out). I could go on, and did in my: The Fundamental List Management Mistakes Collingwood have made and need to learn from video.
My view with Collingwood's list at the present time is there are roughly 13 worthwhile best-22 players with the rest of the 22 consisting of guys I'd rather not have to see play in a given week. My hope is a lot of the youth helps with that and a few of those from the last two drafts come through and prove to be additional worthwhile pieces.
As a general strategy, as I feel clubs put too many resources into scouting the u18s, relative to rival talent and state league talent, I'd like to see a redistribution of resources. Absolutely know the early draft talent inside out and know who of those is best, use those those early picks, but from there late and rookie draft I see routinely value in mature agers, and I'm also seeing underutilised players on rival lists everywhere who could slot into Collingwood's best-22 along with many of others, without coming at any major cost. If you know how to find those guys, you can really quickly and at little cost to the salary cap or in terms of assets (picks/players) improve your list, and also do so not just over the short term, but also the medium and long term.
I like his write ups but he gets as many wrong as anyone else.
You are correct, he is not in the top 3 or 4 in the league, if he was we would have won more than one flag in his time. Actually, I thinkl he seems to be past his use by date well and truely.
That has absolutely nothing to do with drafting though. Don’t act as though the fact we’ve lost players through injury and poor cap management has something to do with Hines talent ID.Sorry I'm going to pass in terms of looking it up. I was a Hine fan for a long time too, but:
Here's a very basic overview of 2012-2018. (Too early for the last two drafts.) Only looking at open draft not academy types.
Off the top of my head he had these picks 5,6,6,10,18,19,20 - a fair few in the 30s and a million late picks.
From that he got the following hits: Langers, Maynard, Phillips, JDG, Mihocek, Stepho, Grundy.
We've since lost 3 of them. There's the hole in our team right there - we currently have only 4 blokes that we drafted in the open draft over the years that should be the core of our team. Yes it's a very simple overview that doesn't factor in the strength of each draft year, or whether some of it was just bad luck, but I struggle to see how anyone can think we got value for our picks over that time frame.
That has absolutely nothing to do with drafting though. Don’t act as though the fact we’ve lost players through injury and poor cap management has something to do with Hines talent ID.
I think measurement of a flag is a single, blunt instrument to measure a recruiters success.You are correct, he is not in the top 3 or 4 in the league, if he was we would have won more than one flag in his time. Actually, I thinkl he seems to be past his use by date well and truely.
Kinnear Beatson goes alright too Albert Parker
Knight have u ever offered your services to CFC in this sort of capacity?
Start off volunteering move up later?
You seem to have the goods?
Oh please no.
He talks the talk like a politician
and usually when we're feeling down.
Oh and by the way - here's my site!
And??
What’s the problem with KM prompting his site?
Rhetorical I presume?
One needs to make your own mind up as to
whether KM's posts are a service to us or oppurtunistic self promotion
(or of course a bit of both).
Advertising works but the truth can be "blurred" / exagerated to get us there......!
Darcy Moore + Jamie Elliott and 2018 1st for Jack Lukosious is one that will forever be etched in my memory bank. One thing I’ll say about Knight is that like an actual recruiter when he falls for what a player offers he falls ******* hard!!
Rhetorical I presume?
One needs to make your own mind up as to
whether KM's posts are a service to us or oppurtunistic self promotion
(or of course a bit of both).
Advertising works but the truth can be "blurred" / exagerated to get us there......!
Knightmare as with most of your list management stuff you were wrong own it. The one you’ve gotten right was Lyons.
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Agreed. Would be nice to have access to Heeney, Mills, Blakey, Campbell, Gulden - the pick of NSW talent every year. Massive leg upHe does, but priority access to half of NSW is a bit of a leg up. It basically guarantees you a jet every second year. You get one of those then have a shitful year (like they did in 2020) and you bounce back pretty quickly. Dalrymple was the one I always thought was underrated. Bailey Smith aside he built that Bulldogs team and then went up to the Swans...
That has absolutely nothing to do with drafting though. Don’t act as though the fact we’ve lost players through injury and poor cap management has something to do with Hines talent ID.
Sydney only passed on Dunkley because he asked them to. He only nominated as a FS for them to avoid going to another interstate club if they bid. The agreement with them was they would pass if a vic club bid. It was borderline draft tampering.Agreed. Would be nice to have access to Heeney, Mills, Blakey, Campbell, Gulden - the pick of NSW talent every year. Massive leg up
Fell down the ladder and now have access to Logan McDonald before picking up the pick of the NSW boys. (North looks to have screwed up taking Phillips who is a dime a dozen small mid with questionable skills.)
I also think they bet the house on Buddy and that has weakened them. But they did that while thinking they had more money to play with than all Melbourne clubs, which was also a massive advantage. I think the AFL has generally been favourably disposed toward making them a success and they probably shot themselves in the foot with that move as the AFL wanted GWS to land him.
But he's also done well picking up guys like Papley in the rookie draft. Mike Pyke as an International.
Passed over Josh Dunkley, who is an ugly kick, but is a great size, knows how to get the ball and seems a solid citizen.
Sydney only passed on Dunkley because he asked them to. He only nominated as a FS for them to avoid going to another interstate club if they bid. The agreement with them was they would pass if a vic club bid. It was borderline draft tampering.
I agree with the gist of your thoughts in the sense of employment with the club, but this is unfair in terms of self promotion. Knight puts in more work than anyone that’s ever posted on this site. Yeah I am critical of his list management stuff (I mean the above is just wrong), but the junior talent ID is an entirely different story and he posts on our board in a very different capacity to the draft board.