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[Doss]

I doubt very much that EFC is bi-polar - I believe that the team has been very consistent in their games - Take away our big wins Kangaroos/Richmond/Collingwood/Carlton and out big losses Fremantle/Sydney/Stkilda - The other 16 games have been close affairs - We've only conceded 100 points in two games - And Sydney and Fremantle kicked a freakish 18-5 and 18-6. The graph shows little fluctuation in our games.

The bipolar bit refers to our fluctuations within games too.

How can a team play as poor a first quarter as we did on Saturday and then as good a second quarter?

Same with Anzac Day. Or the Geelong game. Or the West Coast game. How can they beat Port, push Hawthorn and Geelong all the way, yet lose to Melbourne and St Kilda?

There can be no other way to describe Essendon's fluctuation of form within games- it is absolutely bipolar. Jekyll and Hyde. They are wildly inconsistent.

 

[Lance Uppercut]

The bipolar bit refers to our fluctuations within games too.

How can a team play as poor a first quarter as we did on Saturday and then as good a second quarter?

Same with Anzac Day. Or the Geelong game. Or the West Coast game. How can they beat Port, push Hawthorn and Geelong all the way, yet lose to Melbourne and St Kilda?

There can be no other way to describe Essendon's fluctuation of form within games- it is absolutely bipolar. Jekyll and Hyde. They are wildly inconsistent.

it's a hell of a ride though!

I don't care, just beat Norf and I can be happy. So happy. Then it's a hail mary play against Geelong or Hawthorn and who knows. ****en cmoan!

 

[eth-dog]

ditto, when we lost Licka and Dempsey to hamstring?

ACL's

 

[HirdyLannister]

ACL's

Well at least I got the players right lol

 

[daffo]

Boy that was an outside game. No one wanted to go in for hard ball all day apart from Watson and Howlett. It just looked like the whole team were trying to save themselves for the Kangaroos game.

 

[yaco55]

16 close affairs against teams of wildly different levels. Remarkably consistent.

Or to ram it through your subtlety filter, Essendon had results within two kicks against 2nd, 3rd, 5th, 9th, 10th, 13th, 14th twice, 15th and 17th. The only consistency there is playing at the level of the opponent, be it great or ****ing rubbish.

You don't have the AFL's third best defence unless you play consistently - Yes some parts of the game don't work effectively at times, but we have never conceded more than 25 shots at goal in a game - This indicates that the team is consistently playing within team structures.

 

[yaco55]

The bipolar bit refers to our fluctuations within games too.

How can a team play as poor a first quarter as we did on Saturday and then as good a second quarter?

Same with Anzac Day. Or the Geelong game. Or the West Coast game. How can they beat Port, push Hawthorn and Geelong all the way, yet lose to Melbourne and St Kilda?

There can be no other way to describe Essendon's fluctuation of form within games- it is absolutely bipolar. Jekyll and Hyde. They are wildly inconsistent.

So that means that Hawthorn,Geelong, Carlton, WC who gave up 30+ point leads are bi-polar - One teams gets a good break and then gives up the lead - Surely this indicates that team is also bi-polar.

 

[Zach Package]

You don't have the AFL's third best defence unless you play consistently - Yes some parts of the game don't work effectively at times, but we have never conceded more than 25 shots at goal in a game - This indicates that the team is consistently playing within team structures.

We've got no structure forward of the ball.

If we could even become a middling (6th-10thish) offensive side in terms of efficiency we'd be pushing top 4. Still might do such is the quality of other parts of our game

 

[Andronicus]

So that means that Hawthorn,Geelong, Carlton, WC who gave up 30+ point leads are bi-polar - One teams gets a good break and then gives up the lead - Surely this indicates that team is also bi-polar.

Haven't looked at the games too closely, but how often did they give up those leads, or was it just against us?

 

[Pevers-Legend]

So that means that Hawthorn,Geelong, Carlton, WC who gave up 30+ point leads are bi-polar - One teams gets a good break and then gives up the lead - Surely this indicates that team is also bi-polar.

Consistency is what people are referring to. We consistently go hot and cold during matches, which is why we have so few games where we have won convincingly. For a team with 12.5 wins, we sure had a lot of close wins.

Also losing to the bottom couple of teams highlights are lack of consistency.

 

[EnolaGay]

We need more pigs brain extract, wasn't that meant to help concentration levels?

 

[Doss]

So that means that Hawthorn,Geelong, Carlton, WC who gave up 30+ point leads are bi-polar - One teams gets a good break and then gives up the lead - Surely this indicates that team is also bi-polar.

In one game. We manage to do it in most games, yaco.

That's the difference.

 

[yaco55]

Haven't looked at the games too closely, but how often did they give up those leads, or was it just against us?

Hawthorn came from well down against the Swans and Geelong - Teams have given up leads in 2014.

 

[yaco55]

Consistency is what people are referring to. We consistently go hot and cold during matches, which is why we have so few games where we have won convincingly. For a team with 12.5 wins, we sure had a lot of close wins.

Also losing to the bottom couple of teams highlights are lack of consistency.

By the same token we have only lost convincingly on three occasions and in two of those games the opposition scored 18-5 and 18-6.

I think our form has been very consistent - We are a hard team to score against - Have never given up more than 25 scoring shots per game - Yes - We struggle in the offensive side of the game which can trick some into thinking we are inconsistent .

 

[yaco55]

In one game. We manage to do it in most games, yaco.

That's the difference.

We have given up some big leads but have recovered from large deficits - Scoring shots against combined with total points against shows our consistency - Would have I liked a higher level of performance - yes ! But that doesn't mean that we are inconsistent.

 

[Mercurial89]

Bomber- we are an inconsistent side

The players- we are working on trying to be more consistent.

All football analysis in media- the bombers once they get over being inconsistent and can string four quarters together will challenge.

Most supporters-god why cant we string 2 quarters together let alone 4.

Yaco- We aren't inconsistent.

Oh well if Yaco says it then I guess we arent

 

[Kong]

Watching a replay last night, I heard Tim Watson say that our rivarly's stepped up over the last 12 months or so.

Reckon that's a reference to the scumbags secretly recording and bitching about our standard supplements program?

 

[Mercurial89]

Watching a replay last night, I heard Tim Watson say that our rivarly's stepped up over the last 12 months or so.

Reckon that's a reference to the scumbags secretly recording and bitching about our standard supplements program?

yeah i noticed that too and didnt see any real logic behind the comment from an on field perspective. I thought maybe because they took our spot in the 8. Not sure.

 

[Pevers-Legend]

By the same token we have only lost convincingly on three occasions and in two of those games the opposition scored 18-5 and 18-6.

I think our form has been very consistent - We are a hard team to score against - Have never given up more than 25 scoring shots per game - Yes - We struggle in the offensive side of the game which can trick some into thinking we are inconsistent .

I think we are consistent in our defence, but not in our defensive application in the midfield and forward line. It is easy to see when our effort lifts. So yes our performance has been consistent in some respects, but our ability to perform at the required level to beat teams has not been. That is where our pressure and effort/intensity has to be at a raised level which we struggle to maintain.

 

[Doss]

Watching a replay last night, I heard Tim Watson say that our rivarly's stepped up over the last 12 months or so.

Reckon that's a reference to the scumbags secretly recording and bitching about our standard supplements program?

It's hard to imagine the rivalry becoming much more intense than it already is, really.

 

[Harlequin]

I've often wondered over the journey whether our players have had to endure spiteful barbs over this shit on the football field.
It's one thing to sledge but even in cricket that sledging can take on a horrible personal tone.

This could account for an increased bitter rivalry

 

[BrewSmackerVeiny]

I assumed he meant taking our finals spot, was almost exactly 12 months ago.

 

[yaco55]

Bomber- we are an inconsistent side

The players- we are working on trying to be more consistent.

All football analysis in media- the bombers once they get over being inconsistent and can string four quarters together will challenge.

Most supporters-god why cant we string 2 quarters together let alone 4.

Yaco- We aren't inconsistent.

Oh well if Yaco says it then I guess we arent

Why has no team had more than 25 scoring shots against us ? It's consistently been in the range of 20 to 25 shots per game - People think we are inconsistent because the forward line doesn't function often enough - Where have the been the games where sides have had 30/35/40 scoring shots ? I would prefer a higher level of overall performance in games, and that's something to work on in 2015.

 

[yaco55]

I think we are consistent in our defence, but not in our defensive application in the midfield and forward line. It is easy to see when our effort lifts. So yes our performance has been consistent in some respects, but our ability to perform at the required level to beat teams has not been. That is where our pressure and effort/intensity has to be at a raised level which we struggle to maintain.

This is fairly much my argument - We need to improve the overall level of performance over a full year - We need to raise the bar higher!

 

[Doss]

And I'd also prefer, just for once, that we didn't lose to sides we're clearly better than.

Look at Hawthorn- when was the last time they lost to a cellar dweller?

If it's not inconsistency, and I still hold out that it is, it's mental weakness.