Draft Watcher eDPS Draft Watch 2020

[eDPS]

 

[eDPS]

Rough estimate ... how strong is 2021 expected to be? Will we see a reticence for clubs to trade out of it?

Hard to gauge the very top end with the victorians not able to show much more but I would say it’s looking like the deepest draft in a long time and the first round would look to rival 2016 and 2018 for sure. Unless your getting a bonafide superstar i wouldn’t dare trade out of it.

 

[Turbocat]

Hard to gauge the very top end with the victorians not able to show much more but I would say it’s looking like the deepest draft in a long time and the first round would look to rival 2016 and 2018 for sure. Unless your getting a bonafide superstar i wouldn’t dare trade out of it.

Interesting ..i thought Geelong might have been able to move one of our R1's into next year .. maybe not then.

 

[eDPS]

Interesting ..i thought Geelong might have been able to move one of our R1's into next year .. maybe not then.

Unless a team is desperate for a certain player this year I highly doubt it haha

 

[Turbocat]

Unless a team is desperate for a certain player this year I highly doubt it haha

Well geeloing traded a P20 something with GC for a future R1 ... some clubs needing points etc. but it changes it a bit if its a really good draft

 

[andleanback]

Well geeloing trade a P20 something with GC for a future R1 ... some clubs needing points etc. but it changes it a bit if its a really good draft

GC don’t need need points, they get their academy players for free.

 

[briztoon]

Well geeloing trade a P20 something with GC for a future R1 ... some clubs needing points etc. but it changes it a bit if its a really good draft

If Gold Coast don’t get their future 2021 PP taken off them, a team might consider trading a mid first round pick this year for Gold Coast’s second round pick and their 2021 PP.

Especially a team that might lose their first pick to a NGA or father son bid.

 

[Turbocat]

GC don’t need need points, they get their academy players for free.

That was trade last year ... not for points but for a player GC liked .. my point was a pick in the 20's traded for a pick that was in theory p11..

this year plenty of clubs have NGA and FSons etc

 

[Turbocat]

If Gold Coast don’t get their future 2021 PP taken off them, a team might consider trading a mid first round pick this year for Gold Coast’s second round pick and their 2021 PP.

Especially a team that might lose their first pick to a NGA or father son bid.

a lot of things a possible ... especially when the talent assessment this year means a lot of clubs will see player they rate move and slide...

as shown last year clubs are gradually becoming more comfortable with in draft trades. 2 later picks for 1 R1...? possible I guess..agains depending on list management and draft rating

 

[andleanback]

That was trade last year ... not for points but for a player GC liked .. my point was a pick in the 20's traded for a pick that was in theory p11..

this year plenty of clubs have NGA and FSons etc

Yep GC did that trade because they rated Sharp as a first round prospect, so they saw it as fair value. Plus they knew they were getting Davies and Jeffery this year who are highly rated. I don’t think many will want to trade out of next years first round, unless it’s for the strategy of loading up on first round picks this year.

 

[philthy05]

I wouldn’t expect a lot of future picks to move this year

it wouldn’t surprise me if gcs move their 2021 pp just to make sure it isn’t taken off them lol. But can’t see a team targeting that pick easily, it would be a case of right time right place that gets that offer like geelong last year.

 

[briztoon]

a lot of things a possible ... especially when the talent assessment this year means a lot of clubs will see player they rate move and slide...

as shown last year clubs are gradually becoming more comfortable with in draft trades. 2 later picks for 1 R1...? possible I guess..agains depending on list management and draft rating

I wouldn’t expect a lot of future picks to move this year

it wouldn’t surprise me if gcs move their 2021 pp just to make sure it isn’t taken off them lol. But can’t see a team targeting that pick easily, it would be a case of right time right place that gets that offer like geelong last year.

If there aren’t changes to the NGA’s and bidding process at end of the year, there’s potentially a couple of clubs that might want to move future first or second round picks next year, if they have highly rated kids in next years draft.

 

[Pasthispeak]

Yep GC did that trade because they rated Sharp as a first round prospect, so they saw it as fair value. Plus they knew they were getting Davies and Jeffery this year who are highly rated. I don’t think many will want to trade out of next years first round, unless it’s for the strategy of loading up on first round picks this year.

Think those concessions may change given the improved form of the suns this year, seems unfair they get get pre selection on potentially 4 players in a very modified draft

 

[Johnny Rutten]

Think those concessions may change given the improved form of the suns this year, seems unfair they get get pre selection on potentially 4 players in a very modified draft

Yes, their concessions should be transferred from the Suns to Us.

 

[andleanback]

Think those concessions may change given the improved form of the suns this year, seems unfair they get get pre selection on potentially 4 players in a very modified draft

I doubt they take them away. What’s the point of introducing them, then taking then away a year later. The AFL knew they would win games this year and it’s not like they’ve set the comp on fire. They’d have to make finals this year to roll back the concessions.

 

[briztoon]

I doubt they take them away. What’s the point of introducing them, then taking then away a year later. The AFL knew they would win games this year and it’s not like they’ve set the comp on fire. They’d have to make finals this year to roll back the concessions.

I can see the Suns being told, that after this year the draft academy concessions will be removed, but they keep Darwin as part of their academy zone.

So they still get to preselect their academy kids this year, but from next year, they’ll have to match bids.

Will also encourage the Suns to trade their 2021 beginning of second round PP.

That is still a valuable pick in what will be a significantly stronger and deeper draft.

If I’m the Bulldogs, and they don’t receive a reasonable offer for their first round pick this year, with a lot of extra points this year, to minimise their draft debt on next year’s first round pick, I’m targeting that Suns PP in a trade.

 

[TheVelourFog]

For all the draft watchers out there how would Thilthorpe compare to someone like Peter Wright. Obviously Wright hasn't come on but what traits would separate the two that would make Thilthorpe worth pick one?

 

[philthy05]

I don’t remember watching wright predraft so can’t speak comparison wise but thilthorpes engine and overhead marking appear elite and have never heard the same said for wright.

 

[Davo-27]

For all the draft watchers out there how would Thilthorpe compare to someone like Peter Wright. Obviously Wright hasn't come on but what traits would separate the two that would make Thilthorpe worth pick one?

Thilthorpe is so much more athletic than Peter Wright, Riley has very good endurance, has a good ground game whereas Wright has a poor ground game and seems to not have great endurance, both are a good mark and kick, but they are very different athletically imo, also Riley seems more agile and clever from the eye test/vision I've seen of both, both seem ok in the ruck, neither are dominant rucks, more serviceable in the ruck.

 

[Turbocat]

eDPS.... where would you have someone like Sam Flanders in this draft... ?

 

[eDPS]

eDPS.... where would you have someone like Sam Flanders in this draft... ?

Top 10

 

[Watchfromadistance]

• Played Colts last year (2019) and the year before (2018) - year before was a lot more impressive where he put up some huge bags of goals (like 9 goals in a game) as a 16 year old, whereas 2019 he kicked goals in most games but it was sort of only in the 1-3 range per game.
• Was part of the Academy last year
• Played in U18 championships last year for all bar I think one game; his first game was impressive but he got the wobbles in front of goal and ended up with only 1 goal and three behinds (and maybe an out of bounds as well) - his kicking technique is pretty good so was probably just nerves - he has a reputation for being very accurate;
• Played in the NAB showcase game where I think he may have kicked a goal from memory but was otherwise not prominent.

So last year wasn't as prominent as the year before that, but he has been around. In 2018 when people were discussing what might happen in 2019 and when people suggested using Freo's first pick on Jeremy Sharp I said that I'd rather trade away the pick to get Logan McDonald the next year, to indicate how impressive I thought his 2018 was. But I admit I did jump off the bandwagon at the end of last year simply because last year wasn't sustaining the 2018 form. I guess what could have maybe played a role was the fact he was finishing high school last year, whereas this year he is at University.

This year he has been impressive again - the reality is that he played four games in a row, two before the main season proper at a senior level and kicked 3 or more goals in all of them against grown men. I haven't seen anything like that really since Scott Gumbleton or maybe Jack Darling, and back in the days it was easier for Gumbleton to break into the Peel seniors because of a lack of tall timber. Scott was reasonably prominent and regularly got the top backman; I think we do need to temper it a bit with Logan because he isn't always getting the best backman yet, but even so.

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[Snuffaluphagus]

Hey eDPS, we are trying to get Richard Bartlett into our NGA for next years draft, got any info on him?

 

[eDPS]

Hey eDPS, we are trying to get Richard Bartlett into our NGA for next years draft, got any info on him?

I’ve only seen a little bit of him, bit of a utility who moves well with good skills. He is an academy hub member so is already touted pretty highly.

 

[Snuffaluphagus]

I’ve only seen a little bit of him, bit of a utility who moves well with good skills. He is an academy hub member so is already touted pretty highly.

Pick 1 worthy, got it

 

[PMBangers]

Pick 1 worthy, got it

Who's going to tell the Collingwood supporters?