F1 F1 2024 thread

[jabba5114]

Ohhhhh those radio messages from verstappen about lance would be fun to listen too If he goes to am

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[Nuggs Bunny]

From a few weeks ago but rumours abound that Alpine is about to walk away from it's own engines in favour of Mercedes deal.

I am still a bit sceptical that a customer team can have long term sustained success without controlling the design direction of the power unit. Now yes, McLaren in 2024 are outperforming Mercedes considerably but this is also unique and likely influenced by the engine freeze as McLaren have had 2 seasons to adapt a car to an unchanged engine. Post-2026 where the engines are likely free to change as the season rolls on this will tip the balance back in favour of teams who make their own power unit as has previously been the case.

Still find this a bit disappointing from Renault after investing heaps in trying to resurrect the Alpine name and also dipping a toe into the LMDh series. Renault and Mecachrome have previously built some of the best engines on the grid and have been one of the most successful engine builders since 2000 so it just feels like they've giving up a little too quickly for mine. Are you still a works team without a works engine?

 

[Black_White]

Alonso to finally become a 3 time WDC, I'm all for this timeline!
Think its a great move for the sport. Will no doubt help bring AM back to the front, and say what you will about Lance, but Lawrence Stroll has been pumping money in the AM F1 program like no there is no tomorrow. New state of the art wind tunnels etc

Alonso?
No.
If/when Stroll snr gets a competitive car, his focus will turn to making his boy WC.
And why shouldn’t it? If I was pumping that money in I’d be only happy with the return of my son reaping the benefits.
So while Alonso may think there is a path to a 3rd, I think reality will mean there’s a big fat roadblock.

 

[Kane McGoodwin]

Alonso?
No.
If/when Stroll snr gets a competitive car, his focus will turn to making his boy WC.
And why shouldn’t it? If I was pumping that money in I’d be only happy with the return of my son reaping the benefits.
So while Alonso may think there is a path to a 3rd, I think reality will mean there’s a big fat roadblock.

Or he goes hard to chase Max if he lands Newey...

 

[skam85]

From a few weeks ago but rumours abound that Alpine is about to walk away from it's own engines in favour of Mercedes deal.

I am still a bit sceptical that a customer team can have long term sustained success without controlling the design direction of the power unit. Now yes, McLaren in 2024 are outperforming Mercedes considerably but this is also unique and likely influenced by the engine freeze as McLaren have had 2 seasons to adapt a car to an unchanged engine. Post-2026 where the engines are likely free to change as the season rolls on this will tip the balance back in favour of teams who make their own power unit as has previously been the case.

Still find this a bit disappointing from Renault after investing heaps in trying to resurrect the Alpine name and also dipping a toe into the LMDh series. Renault and Mecachrome have previously built some of the best engines on the grid and have been one of the most successful engine builders since 2000 so it just feels like they've giving up a little too quickly for mine. Are you still a works team without a works engine?

All signs point to Alpine selling up, with Oakes on board they could very much become Hitech F1 team

 

[skam85]

Alonso?
No.
If/when Stroll snr gets a competitive car, his focus will turn to making his boy WC.
And why shouldn’t it? If I was pumping that money in I’d be only happy with the return of my son reaping the benefits.
So while Alonso may think there is a path to a 3rd, I think reality will mean there’s a big fat roadblock.

I don't think a roadblock that gets eliminated in Q1 is going to be much worry for Fernando.

We all saw what he could do last year when the car was half decent. And what Lance couldn't.

 

[imadodgyumpire]

The longest drought between championships is 7 season with Niki Lauda. 6 continuous, Graham Hill and Hamilton.

Alonso wants to smash that record, and be the oldest champion for many decades.

 

[dazbroncos]

Was hoping he'd go to McLaren. Suppose there's opportunities to work with Aston in other series too though

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and can design a production road car not just limited 50 model runs as part of his downtime.

 

[Jatz]

The longest drought between championships is 7 season with Niki Lauda. 6 continuous, Graham Hill and Hamilton.

Alonso wants to smash that record, and be the oldest champion for many decades.

He's no chance. Absolutely none.

He'd do well to win one more race in his career, let alone a WDC.

 

[drd23]

All signs point to Alpine selling up, with Oakes on board they could very much become Hitech F1 team

Is there a reason that Andretti hasn't just bought them if they were so keen on getting into F1?

 

[jabba5114]

Is there a reason that Andretti hasn't just bought them if they were so keen on getting into F1?

Andretti want there own start up.

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[Pure_Ownage]

think you've pretty much agreed with me on the mclaren and alpha stints. just attempted to give it a rose coloured glasses take. he got flicked from mclaren. and yuki has driven the pants off him at alpha.

i'd love danny ric to prove me wrong but i think you and others are allowing emotion to override reality.

Yuki is too volatile on and off the track. You cant have him in a team where you already have immature volatile max and jos. DR is a safe pair of hand who can drive the car well, pick up points when needed, do the team things and works very well with the engineers. And unlike perez doesnt crash the car. Hes probably what they need atm.

 

[Vader]

Some interesting F1 news overnight...

Rwanda is apparently trying to get an F1 race - and no, it's not an April Fools Day joke:
https://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/...h-to-discuss-serious-grand-prix-bid/10642881/

Jos Verstappen's girlfriend has had her appeal against Red Bull dismissed:
https://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/red-bull-f1-boss-horner-misconduct-appeal-dismissed/10643097/

Liberty Media is now being subjected to an anti-trust investigation in the US, over it's refusal to give Andretti a license:
https://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/...anti-trust-probe-andretti-rejection/10643128/

No such thing as a quiet summer break!

 

[Gunf]

Some interesting F1 news overnight...

Rwanda is apparently trying to get an F1 race - and no, it's not an April Fools Day joke:
https://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/...h-to-discuss-serious-grand-prix-bid/10642881/

Jos Verstappen's girlfriend has had her appeal against Red Bull dismissed:
https://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/red-bull-f1-boss-horner-misconduct-appeal-dismissed/10643097/

Liberty Media is now being subjected to an anti-trust investigation in the US, over it's refusal to give Andretti a license:
https://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/...anti-trust-probe-andretti-rejection/10643128/

No such thing as a quiet summer break!

The las one on that list should ****ing happen.

 

[Not Important]

 

[jabba5114]

Laughable

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[gaskin]

Laughable

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What is?

 

[FR0GGY]

Andretti want there own start up.

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Surely they just need to get a foot in the door first

 

[jabba5114]

What is?

The investigation. They were never going to do anything

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[jabba5114]

Surely they just need to get a foot in the door first

Yeah I agree. F1 isn't going to let them in otherwise.

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[Bradesmaen]

The investigation. They were never going to do anything

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Independent KCx2. But keep going on like Andrew Benson.

 

[Not Important]

The investigation. They were never going to do anything

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think you'll find that both max's old man and marko were intent on them doing something. and wasn't there an independent investigation?

 

[jabba5114]

Independent KCx2. But keep going on like Andrew Benson.

Who is Andrew benson?

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[imadodgyumpire]

You don't wanna know.

 

[Black_White]

The investigation. They were never going to do anything

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Be careful what you say.
2 independent KC’s have determined that the accusation is false. You are saying the KC’s are somehow complicit in covering up a crime.
They know how to sue do KC’s.