F1 F1 2024 thread

[Jatz]

This graphic posted on Reddit just shows how consistent VER has been through this middle third of the season so far, even though the RBR pace has fallen off a cliff (only two podiums in the last 6 races). Also shows PIA rise, and NOR not maximising the most of the opportunity.


Unless VER has a few DNF's in the same race NOR finishes first, I can't see NOR having a sniff of the WDC.

What that fails to show is that I think the Red Bull has now got far worse than it was during the middle part of the season. The gap to McLaren appears to be widening further. It's very likely to be too little too late but it does at least set it up a little bit.

 

[happy_eagle]

Everyone talking about how team orders at McLaren, and not about Lando failing to convert another pole position into a first lap lead.

In his current state I don't think he's worth prioritising, as I don't think mentally he's capable of fighting for a championship. Nico spoke on the Sky F1 podcast about how he sought the assistance of a sports psychologist and would spend a couple of hours every couple of days with them focusing purely on the mental side. I'd be very surprised if Lando was doing that (or if he is, it isn't working).

 

[Jatz]

Everyone talking about how team orders at McLaren, and not about Lando failing to convert another pole position into a first lap lead.

In his current state I don't think he's worth prioritising, as I don't think mentally he's capable of fighting for a championship. Nico spoke on the Sky F1 podcast about how he sought the assistance of a sports psychologist and would spend a couple of hours every couple of days with them focusing purely on the mental side. I'd be very surprised if Lando was doing that (or if he is, it isn't working).

Don't think it's necessarily that deep.

He got caught napping on the weekend - in his defence, I genuinely can't remember the last time a car successfully passed in that corner, around the outside.

He did at least nail the start prior to that.

 

[Gunf]

Don't think it's necessarily that deep.

He got caught napping on the weekend - in his defence, I genuinely can't remember the last time a car successfully passed in that corner, around the outside.

He did at least nail the start prior to that.

i am pretty sure Lando had had 7 poles this year and lost first every time on the first lap or close to it

 

[happy_eagle]

Don't think it's necessarily that deep.

He got caught napping on the weekend - in his defence, I genuinely can't remember the last time a car successfully passed in that corner, around the outside.

He did at least nail the start prior to that.

He made an error.

He has a history of making errors and being a bit of a choke merchant. Until he can demonstrate he can consistently drive to his ability without making these errors, he doesn't deserve preferential treatment.

 

[Jatz]

i am pretty sure Lando had had 7 poles this year and lost first every time on the first lap or close to it

I understand that, I see last weekends as a different issue from his prior ones. Ordinarily he's lost the lead before the first corner.

 

[Jatz]

He made an error.

He has a history of making errors and being a bit of a choke merchant. Until he can demonstrate he can consistently drive to his ability without making these errors, he doesn't deserve preferential treatment.

Sorry, what was the error? He was overtaken in a part of the track that sees very little (if any) overtaking.

He was complacent perhaps, I don't see how an error was made.

It honestly wouldn't surprise me if he also (incorrectly) assumed his teammate wouldn't attack him like that. Which is incredibly naïve of course.

 

[Duck Farmer]

This graphic posted on Reddit just shows how consistent VER has been through this middle third of the season so far, even though the RBR pace has fallen off a cliff (only two podiums in the last 6 races). Also shows PIA rise, and NOR not maximising the most of the opportunity.


Unless VER has a few DNF's in the same race NOR finishes first, I can't see NOR having a sniff of the WDC.

With a third of the calendar to go, Oscar should completely martyr himself for the guy who has ... checks notes ... outscored him by 2 points over the last 8 races and trails the championship leader by 60+ points.

 

[happy_eagle]

Sorry, what was the error?

In your own words

He got caught napping on the weekend

 

[Jatz]

In your own words

Yeah that's not how I'd define an error personally but that's really up to the individual.

He hasn't driven into someone for instance.

 

[gaskin]

I think he honestly thought that Oscar wouldn't try a move there so he was taken unaware.

 

[TY24]

1. Is a Grand Stand ticket worthwhile?

2. If so which one?

Myself and my partner sat in the Clark grandstand last year and it was good. Amenities were close by and there was a screen pretty much directly across from us as well.

One thing I will say is the public transport was horrific, getting to and from the track was a nightmare on race day.

 

[King Of Money]

He made an error.

He has a history of making errors and being a bit of a choke merchant. Until he can demonstrate he can consistently drive to his ability without making these errors, he doesn't deserve preferential treatment.

Or a WDC.

 

[Barrybran]

 

[Vader]

Azerbaijan isn't a part of Europe? Must be regarded as part of Asia. Must admit I'm a bit fuzzy as to where the Europe/Asia boundary lies through the ex-Soviet states.

 

[happy_eagle]

Azerbaijan isn't a part of Europe? Must be regarded as part of Asia. Must admit I'm a bit fuzzy as to where the Europe/Asia boundary lies through the ex-Soviet states.

I think Geographically Baku is in Asia.

However the first Azerbaijan GP was branded as the "European Grand Prix" for a few years (now its just the Azerbaijan Grand Prix)

 

[Vader]

I think Geographically Baku is in Asia.

However the first Azerbaijan GP was branded as the "European Grand Prix" for a few years (now its just the Azerbaijan Grand Prix)

I was just googling, to see where the boundary lies. The correct answer is "**** knows!". There are about 8 different definitions for the boundary through the Caucasus area - some of which place Baku in Europe, others placing it in Asia.

The problem stems from the fact that Europe & Asia are, geologically, a single continent - Eurasia. The artificial division into Europe & Asia is a historical artefact, driven by the European conceit of wanting to classify themselves as being different (i.e. better) than those further east on the same landmass.

No wonder I was fuzzy on where the boundary lies...

I know that the Urals are widely regarded as the Eastern boundary, as is the Bosphorus in Turkey. But I had no idea where the line lies/lay through the Caucasus. Having investigated on Google, I'm only marginally less uncertain.

Politically, Georgia, Armenia & Azerbaijan are all regarded as being European. They are all current or past participants in the Eurovision Song Contest (and are members of the European Broadcast Union), and Georgia is a member of the EU. Countries on the eastern side of the Caspian Sea (Kazakhstan, Uzbekistan, Turkmenistan) are all regarded as being part of Asia.

It's bloody confusing!

Anyhow, I'm looking forward to seeing those "artistic" shots of the F1 cars, filmed through the castle windows.

 

[Not Important]

Everyone talking about how team orders at McLaren, and not about Lando failing to convert another pole position into a first lap lead.

In his current state I don't think he's worth prioritising, as I don't think mentally he's capable of fighting for a championship. Nico spoke on the Sky F1 podcast about how he sought the assistance of a sports psychologist and would spend a couple of hours every couple of days with them focusing purely on the mental side. I'd be very surprised if Lando was doing that (or if he is, it isn't working).

it’s all to do with whether he can win the driver’s championship and not at the cost of the constructors. he’s mclaren’s only reasonable chance of the former.

 

[Duck Farmer]

According to Wikipedia:



Baku is in the Western Asia part, not the Eastern Europe part.

 

[King Of Money]

It competes in the Eurovision Song Contest, so there's your definitive answer.

Just like Australia is a part of Europe.

 

[drd23]

 

[Barrybran]

At least he'll get a taste of what his F1 experience will actually be like next year. I hope he's been working those neck muscles.

 

[Bradesmaen]

At least he'll get a taste of what his F1 experience will actually be like next year. I hope he's been working those neck muscles.

For when he spins off into the wall?

 

[Barrybran]

For when he spins off into the wall?

He did alright last year. He won the F2 race.

 

[jabba5114]

It competes in the Eurovision Song Contest, so there's your definitive answer.

Just like Australia is a part of Europe. [emoji1787]

Yep us euroaussies

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