Father Son rule

[Hollow Knight]

In all seriousness though. The new bidding system has taken much of the sting out of the father/son rule.

It is a great concept, leave it alone.

 

[JeffDunne]

he didn't and the rules are what they are. so what harm was done again?

Is the word 'potential' missing from your vocabulary?

 

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Is the word 'potential' missing from your vocabulary?

yes. I'm god damn sick of that word

 

[Hollow Knight]

Is the word 'potential' missing from your vocabulary?

The potential for a perfect season by the New Orleans Saints will be wiped away at the hands of Dallas in 2 weeks.

 

[PortBrillance]

I dont understand how the crows get to pick norwood players under the FS rule. I dont want to turn this into a port/crows thing, but they are a new club. They also get sturt, norwood, glenleg ect. I think in 2014 or something we get WWT, West Adel and Centrals.

To answer the other guy about Port, We have got brett ebert under the FS. Of course the great russ played for us back in the 70/80's. Im a fan, keep it I say. Rewards the "older" clubs

 

[PortBrillance]

Tell it to this bloke.

I actually love that jumper. Cant believe what the lions did to it

 

[JeffDunne]

The potential for a perfect season by the New Orleans Saints will be wiped away at the hands of Dallas in 2 weeks.

My calendar says it's December.

Do I need to say more?

 

[John Dorian]

Like others have mentioned it leaves some romance in the game.

I know I am hoping that Silvagni's boys are good enough to get drafted.

Rule is fine as it is with clubs having to use a 1st rd pick if other clubs are willing to use theirs to draft the potential player.

According to my cousin, Silvagni's son is an absolute freak at football.
Expect to pick him up in about 6 years.

 

[Conan Troutman]

I reckon if we had Blake, Ablett, Hawkins and Scarlett we might have got up.

So do I, but you can't just pick the good one's though, you'd also have to take our other Father/Sons - Woolnough, Callan, Donohue, Clarke, S.Fletcher & N.Ablett like we did. Then also take away 9 St Kilda players, because they aren't free draft picks.

 

[JUBJUB]

RIchmond have already started IVF with Richo and his missus in the hope of producing octuplets. We can't abandon the FS rule for at least another 19 years.

Does Richo have to use IVF because with his accuracy the sperm wouldn't hit the target if he tried knocking up the missus the normal way ?

Keep the rule at least until we get Baxter Mensch

 

[RUNVS]

Does Richo have to use IVF because with his accuracy the sperm wouldn't hit the target if he tried knocking up the missus the normal way ?

The further out he is the more accurate he becomes

 

[Dan26]

The father-Son rule is one of the worst rules in professional sport. I still don't understand how this stupid rule was brought in originally. Who is responsible for the idiotic outdated, irrelevant rule being introduced?

Think of how ridiculous it is in the below situation:

Imagine two equally talented 18 year olds. One has a famous father who played 200 games for a club. The other doesn't.

The 18 year old with the famous father (if he has the ability) is guaranteed to go to the club he barracked for, most probably not having to relocate.

The other equally talented 18 year old can end up at any of the 16 clubs. He is given no preferential treatment whatsoever.

Now, what did the first 18 year old do, to deserve preferential treatement? I'll tell you what he did - he did JACK SHIT. All he did was get born into a famous family. He did nothing to deserve any preferred treatment.

So, that being the case, why do we have the rule??? Those that support the rule would say that the fans have an emotional attachment to the son. Rubbish. The fans have an emotional attachment to the FATHER, who has RETIRED. They don't have any attachment to the son at all, because the son hasn't played any games yet.

Yes, the fans will have an emotional attachment to the son IF the son becomes a good player, but if the son is rubbish, the fans will turn on him, like any other player. Joel Reynolds was the Grandson of Essendon's greatest ever player (yes, I kow he wasn't a F/S pick technically) but that didn't stop the fans turning on him because he wasn't up to it.

Gary Ablett junior has always been loved because he was a top player from the start, but if he wasn't any good the fans would turn on him as well.

Players do not need, or deserve preferntial treatment based on bloodlines. It's unfair and totally ridiculous. This doesn't happen in any other sport for a very good reason - because it's bloody stupid.

When you think of it logically, it is scandalous that Gary Ablett jn (among others) was treated differently to other equally talented 18 year olds back in 2001, just because he had a famous father. He could realistically only end up at Geelong.

The son is a totally seperate unique human being from the father and should be treated the same as any other 18 year old in the draft.

 

[Magpie03]

Had Marc Murphy taken up Brisbane's offer and the arbitrary rules on qualification been slightly different, Carlton could have missed out on 2 of 3 number 1 draft picks.

I'd say it has the potential to do plenty of harm

Actually your wrong - whoever Carlton picked would always be the number 1 - most on here reckon they got it wrong with murph and gibbs anyway.

 

[Hollow Knight]

My calendar says it's December.

Do I need to say more?

Each December is closer to the one where Romo pulls it all together.

 

[Dogs_r_barking]

Seems hardly fair, when Geelong have won a couple of premierships under the rule.

 

[SM]

The father-Son rule is one of the worst rules in professional sport. I still don't understand how this stupid rule was brought in originally. Who is responsible for the idiotic outdated, irrelevant rule being introduced?

Think of how ridiculous it is in the below situation:

Imagine two equally talented 18 year olds. One has a famous father who played 200 games for a club. The other doesn't.

The 18 year old with the famous father (if he has the ability) is guaranteed to go to the club he barracked for, most probably not having to relocate.

The other equally talented 18 year old can end up at any of the 16 clubs. He is given no preferential treatment whatsoever.

Now, what did the first 18 year old do, to deserve preferential treatement? I'll tell you what he did - he did JACK SHIT. All he did was get born into a famous family. He did nothing to deserve any preferred treatment.

So, that being the case, why do we have the rule??? Those that support the rule would say that the fans have an emotional attachment to the son. Rubbish. The fans have an emotional attachment to the FATHER, who has RETIRED. They don't have any attachment to the son at all, because the son hasn't played any games yet.

Yes, the fans will have an emotional attachment to the son IF the son becomes a good player, but if the son is rubbish, the fans will turn on him, like any other player. Joel Reynolds was the Grandson of Essendon's greatest ever player (yes, I kow he wasn't a F/S pick technically) but that didn't stop the fans turning on him because he wasn't up to it.

Gary Ablett junior has always been loved because he was a top player from the start, but if he wasn't any good the fans would turn on him as well.

Players do not need, or deserve preferntial treatment based on bloodlines. It's unfair and totally ridiculous. This doesn't happen in any other sport for a very good reason - because it's bloody stupid.

When you think of it logically, it is scandalous that Gary Ablett jn (among others) was treated differently to other equally talented 18 year olds back in 2001, just because he had a famous father. He could realistically only end up at Geelong.

The son is a totally seperate unique human being from the father and should be treated the same as any other 18 year old in the draft.

At my school when your younger brother begins, he can choose whether or not he wants to be in the same house as his older brother. It's the same deal here, it's to keep family ties. Surely you're just a sour grape.

 

[EagleMan87]

Seems hardly fair, when Geelong have won a couple of premierships under the rule.

That's bullshit, they've had more dud FS players than they've had guns, it's just good luck/genes that Scarlett and Ablett are great players.

If Cordy ends up being a gun and helps Footscray win an elusive premiership, would you still complain?

 

[Riggy1]

Each December is closer to the one where Romo pulls it all together.

Now I know you're talking out your arse

 

[erical]

Morton never played for WCE, nor Gibbs old man for Adelaide. Once the newer clubs catch up and the AFL stop dicking with the rule it will be fine and a blessing for the game. Couldn't imagine a Silvagni donning anything other than Navy Blue.

Apparently Silvagni might not want them to play for Carlton as his former club has treated him shabbily.

 

[erical]

The father-Son rule is one of the worst rules in professional sport. I still don't understand how this stupid rule was brought in originally. Who is responsible for the idiotic outdated, irrelevant rule being introduced?

Think of how ridiculous it is in the below situation:

Imagine two equally talented 18 year olds. One has a famous father who played 200 games for a club. The other doesn't.

The 18 year old with the famous father (if he has the ability) is guaranteed to go to the club he barracked for, most probably not having to relocate.

The other equally talented 18 year old can end up at any of the 16 clubs. He is given no preferential treatment whatsoever.

Now, what did the first 18 year old do, to deserve preferential treatement? I'll tell you what he did - he did JACK SHIT. All he did was get born into a famous family. He did nothing to deserve any preferred treatment.

So, that being the case, why do we have the rule??? Those that support the rule would say that the fans have an emotional attachment to the son. Rubbish. The fans have an emotional attachment to the FATHER, who has RETIRED. They don't have any attachment to the son at all, because the son hasn't played any games yet.

Yes, the fans will have an emotional attachment to the son IF the son becomes a good player, but if the son is rubbish, the fans will turn on him, like any other player. Joel Reynolds was the Grandson of Essendon's greatest ever player (yes, I kow he wasn't a F/S pick technically) but that didn't stop the fans turning on him because he wasn't up to it.

Gary Ablett junior has always been loved because he was a top player from the start, but if he wasn't any good the fans would turn on him as well.

Players do not need, or deserve preferntial treatment based on bloodlines. It's unfair and totally ridiculous. This doesn't happen in any other sport for a very good reason - because it's bloody stupid.

When you think of it logically, it is scandalous that Gary Ablett jn (among others) was treated differently to other equally talented 18 year olds back in 2001, just because he had a famous father. He could realistically only end up at Geelong.

The son is a totally seperate unique human being from the father and should be treated the same as any other 18 year old in the draft.

Very well thought out post.
They do get preferential treatment.I never thought of it that way before.
Actually ther Clokes could have had it both ways or which ever club they individually preferred.
A couple of them should have chosen Richmond because they would more than likely still been playing.

 

[JUBJUB]

When you think of it logically, it is scandalous that Gary Ablett jn (among others) was treated differently to other equally talented 18 year olds back in 2001, just because he had a famous father. He could realistically only end up at Geelong.

I love how this has turned into a Geelong bashing thread.Why didn't you just use the example of one of your own current players,Jobe Watson ?

Seems hardly fair, when Geelong have won a couple of premierships under the rule.

okay,if you say so

That's bullshit, they've had more dud FS players than they've had guns, it's just good luck/genes that Scarlett and Ablett are great players

Please don't bring facts into this thread,that is very unBigfooty like.
Nobody ever complains about all the F/S selections Collingwood have had,which I think is more than Geelong.Is it because most of Collingwoods F/S selections have been duds whereas Geelong have had a few successful picks ?

 

[Ari]

:O no NO NO!

I love the father son rule and I think it works very well.

 

[Herne Hill Hammer]

The father-Son rule is one of the worst rules in professional sport. I still don't understand how this stupid rule was brought in originally. Who is responsible for the idiotic outdated, irrelevant rule being introduced?

Think of how ridiculous it is in the below situation:

Imagine two equally talented 18 year olds. One has a famous father who played 200 games for a club. The other doesn't.

The 18 year old with the famous father (if he has the ability) is guaranteed to go to the club he barracked for, most probably not having to relocate.

The other equally talented 18 year old can end up at any of the 16 clubs. He is given no preferential treatment whatsoever.

Now, what did the first 18 year old do, to deserve preferential treatement? I'll tell you what he did - he did JACK SHIT. All he did was get born into a famous family. He did nothing to deserve any preferred treatment.

So, that being the case, why do we have the rule??? Those that support the rule would say that the fans have an emotional attachment to the son. Rubbish. The fans have an emotional attachment to the FATHER, who has RETIRED. They don't have any attachment to the son at all, because the son hasn't played any games yet.

Yes, the fans will have an emotional attachment to the son IF the son becomes a good player, but if the son is rubbish, the fans will turn on him, like any other player. Joel Reynolds was the Grandson of Essendon's greatest ever player (yes, I kow he wasn't a F/S pick technically) but that didn't stop the fans turning on him because he wasn't up to it.

Gary Ablett junior has always been loved because he was a top player from the start, but if he wasn't any good the fans would turn on him as well.

Players do not need, or deserve preferntial treatment based on bloodlines. It's unfair and totally ridiculous. This doesn't happen in any other sport for a very good reason - because it's bloody stupid.

When you think of it logically, it is scandalous that Gary Ablett jn (among others) was treated differently to other equally talented 18 year olds back in 2001, just because he had a famous father. He could realistically only end up at Geelong.

The son is a totally seperate unique human being from the father and should be treated the same as any other 18 year old in the draft.

Fine you'll give back the last 16 years of Dustbin Fletcher and give back Jobe Watson.

 

[whelan=legend]

http://messenger-news.whereilive.com.au/sport/story/roosters-sign-son-of-a-gun/

After Jack Viney thanks.

 

[Spiritof82]

I dont understand how the crows get to pick norwood players under the FS rule. I dont want to turn this into a port/crows thing, but they are a new club. They also get sturt, norwood, glenleg ect. I think in 2014 or something we get WWT, West Adel and Centrals.

To answer the other guy about Port, We have got brett ebert under the FS. Of course the great russ played for us back in the 70/80's. Im a fan, keep it I say. Rewards the "older" clubs

Port Power is also a new club put together by the AFL so they should be under the same rules as Adelaide, Freo, West Coast, the swines and Gold Farce.