Gralin
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As I said feminism evolves. It's not a single movement.I don't have the background knowledge to question much of that, so I'll take your points on face value. If feminism is defined as the fight for female rights and equality, it's objectively wrong to exclude women based on wealth or race. Few will argue against that.
While I agree that trans rights are human rights, I don't see why feminists shoulder any responsibility to advocate on behalf of trans women. It's up to feminists to define what they're advocating for, and whether they fight purely on behalf of their sex and ignore gender altogether.
A lot of the pushback seems to come from males, which to me speaks of the same angle anti-abortionists use. Why should males get an equal say on female rights like reproduction (abortion), sports, bathroom usage, etc? Let them decide their own fate.
It's like any other social or political movement.
Being a woman doesn't automatically make you a feminist and you don't have to be a woman to be a feminist.
Like I said though trans rights are human rights. Trans people are people, they deserve the same rights and access as anyone else to sport and safe spaces, school, employment, everything.
What we've got at the moment is their rights being attacked on many fronts.
If you are a feminist you should be for equality, equality only exists if everyone has it. That includes trans people.
Fourth wave feminism is about that.
That doesn't mean that second and third wave feminists can't also be on board with this either, just that it wasn't part of the main push then.
You best believe that trans activists have been there marching for civil rights, gay rights, women's rights, Stonewall happened in 1969