Finding a gem at Pick 30

[Copeland]

Said to have Hardly Lose in Aerial Marking and has a Big Right Foot like Rocca

Would give my left nut for someone who can take contested marks and kick.

 

[Copeland]

Draft him for his first name thanks.

I like, could he slide to 30?

 

[Optimax]

Would give my left nut for someone who can take contested marks and kick.

His description in the profiles is young rocca that doesn't realize he is a beheamouth of a man already

hopefully gets by the doggies and icant see the blues using 12 on him

I like, could he slide to 30?

majak daw is more likely late Nsd/ rookie I think, atetic gifted but still learning the game

 

[TradeDraft]

His description in the profiles is young rocca that doesn't realize he is a beheamouth of a man already

hopefully gets by the doggies and icant see the blues using 12 on him

majak daw is more likely late Nsd/ rookie I think, atetic gifted but still learning the game

Well the Doggies have 1 Pick ahead of us and they would be the Biggest Threat to get Griffiths


If we can get Daw later in the Draft would be Great

 

[danielnajdek]

Can't wait for the draft even though we don't have a 1st or 3rd round pick. Also means it would be closer to next season starting I'm allready missing it

 

[TradeDraft]

Can't wait for the draft even though we don't have a 1st or 3rd round pick. Also means it would be closer to next season starting I'm allready missing it

Me Too - With Lower picks it does make what we draft a Big Mystery

 

[smiddaz123]

Me Too - With Lower picks it does make what we draft a Big Mystery

I was about to be a smartarse and say that we're probably going to be drafting a footballer, than I remembered we took Tex Walker at one stage.....

 

[TradeDraft]

I was about to be a smartarse and say that we're probably going to be drafting a footballer, than I remembered we took Tex Walker at one stage.....

I mean what type of player

 

[smiddaz123]

I see.

 

[DThomas]

i was about to be a smartarse and say that we're probably going to be drafting a footballer, than i remembered we took tex walker at one stage.....

GOLD!

 

[Pie eyed]

Some Ben Griffiths video

http://rangesfc.matchvision.com.au/video/?video=138

 

[danielnajdek]

Was just reading a thread about Matthew Panos slipping possibly to second round but I highly doubt it IMO. I was hoping the pies would get him when we had pick 14 so if he gets to 30 I would be extremely happy but it's extremely unlikely unfortunately just hope now we can get some decent kid with 30 probably not a star but hopefully a solid contributor week in week out

 

[didaka]

I believe Troy Taylor is our target. But North may look to snatch him with one of their first 3 selections which are all below 30. Fremantle also keen.

I think we'll select Barlow at 30 if Taylor is not available and hope that Thomas falls to our next selection.

As far as Daw goes, I'd take him with our final selection. With the right coaching he could be anything.

 

[Mansons Haircut]

The pick #30 debate

Starting to see lot of people pushing the "mature age from VFL/SANFL/WAFL" line for this pick. Fair enough opinion and it is clear the club feels it is entering a premiership window over next few years and that does change our recruiting strategy to be more open to short term gains (i agree).

However....only reason i can see to do this is if we have identified a player who we think walks straight into our 22 to fill a specific need we feel is lacking in our current list. I just think this is very unlikely and a recycled AFL player probably more likely to fill this role (if thats how we decide to go) and Luke Ball aside any of the delisted guys could be picked up much further back than pick 30.

So in short i agree with the sentiment but in reality i reckon unless Ball slips to #30 we just let Hine do his thing and stick another kid away for the future. This is our only real pick in the draft and although Dekka will probably find a gem somewhere in ND or rookie draft pick #30 is in effect our "first round" pick so lets give it some respect even in a weak draft.

I'm slightly torn between "sell the farm it's time to go for it" and "we have a great young list lets let it come through and top up but very very selectively".

In short if Ball there take him if not pick a kid (jesus just realised i could have done this whole post in one line)

Thats my opinion any others?

 

[shawthing09]

Re: The pick #30 debate

It's more IMO a reflection of the fact that there is not much confidence in this years draft. It's not all that uncommon that in weak draft years guys who have been left behind in strong draft pools but proven themselves in senior leagues are looked at. I think we will take the best player who we feel fits us at pick 30 regardless of age.

 

[TradeDraft]

I have heard a Fair Bit about Micheal Barlow from Werribe in the VFL and Some People Reckon we could draft him at Pick 30,

Does anyone know much about how he plays?

 

[Mansons Haircut]

Re: The pick #30 debate

It's more IMO a reflection of the fact that there is not much confidence in this years draft. It's not all that uncommon that in weak draft years guys who have been left behind in strong draft pools but proven themselves in senior leagues are looked at. I think we will take the best player who we feel fits us at pick 30 regardless of age.

Agree its an open secret for well over a year now that no recruiters rate this draft past the top few even before the GC concessions. Of course we will pick the best player for us regardless of age? Is there another option apart from who fits us best?

Ok i was being smart there but I think i get your point on age that we may have lifted our "ceiling" on age as premiership window comes closer but no one is talking about a 30 odd year old here anyway. What im trying to get across is dont recruit mature for the sake of it (i know your not saying that either) - we dont need depth players (eg. last year we took Leigh Brown & Corrie for depth - few years ago we took Chris Bryan for depth) that time has passed we have depth in our list now. Any mature aged or recycled AFL player should only be taken if we see them walking into our best 22 to fill a need, otherwise pick a kid, even in a weak draft pick 30 will get us a kid that our recruiters still fancy. We got McCarthy at #31 in a weak draft - have faith.

 

[shawthing09]

Re: The pick #30 debate

Agree its an open secret for well over a year now that no recruiters rate this draft past the top few even before the GC concessions. Of course we will pick the best player for us regardless of age? Is there another option apart from who fits us best?

Ok i was being smart there but I think i get your point on age that we may have lifted our "ceiling" on age as premiership window comes closer but no one is talking about a 30 odd year old here anyway. What im trying to get across is dont recruit mature for the sake of it (i know your not saying that either) - we dont need depth players (eg. last year we took Leigh Brown & Corrie for depth - few years ago we took Chris Bryan for depth) that time has passed we have depth in our list now. Any mature aged or recycled AFL player should only be taken if we see them walking into our best 22 to fill a need, otherwise pick a kid, even in a weak draft pick 30 will get us a kid that our recruiters still fancy. We got McCarthy at #31 in a weak draft - have faith.

McCarthy slipped due to his injury concerns. He had struggled over his juniour days to get on the park and it is still a concern for him now. He is a great talent but he has had trouble with his body and it may still work out that it restricts him throughout his career.

Of course you don't take a mature age for the sake of it but in a weak draft and especially one with a lack of obvious kpp talent I can see the value in picking a mature age KP prospect if we are after a KPP.

Generally no matter how good the player it takes at least 3 years and generally longer for a player to have the body and AFL smarts to be able to hold down a key position spot. So if we are aiming for a key defender of foward then drafting one this year will mean it will take till Didak and Swan are pushing 30 and Davis is pushing retirement until they are ready to play their key role.

Without a great knowledge of the mature age KPP avalible I can still see the value in going mature age rather then a kid.

 

[TradeDraft]

Re: The pick #30 debate

McCarthy slipped due to his injury concerns. He had struggled over his juniour days to get on the park and it is still a concern for him now. He is a great talent but he has had trouble with his body and it may still work out that it restricts him throughout his career.

Yeah I read he did have 1st Round Talent but Had Injury Concerns and as you say he had problems this year. He does have talent and if he can stay on the Park he be a Big Help

Ben Griffiths could be Exacaly they same

Of course you don't take a mature age for the sake of it but in a weak draft and especially one we a lack of obvious kpp talent I can see the value in picking a mature age KP prospect if we are after a KPP.

Do you know anyone one who could fit that Bill?

 

[Mansons Haircut]

Re: The pick #30 debate

Do you know anyone one who could fit that Bill?

Ah now thats the real question and, no i dont, and if i did i'd draft them.

While its possible i just find it hard to believe that there is a mature age KP player ready to walk straight into the best 22 of a top 4 AFL side. In our case ahead of Presti/Nathan Brown/Cloke/Anthony/Dawes/Reid/Rusling even Leigh Brown tbh (throw in Fraser/Wood/Jolly to cover ruck). I just dont see it as our need so cant see it happening.

I dont think many slip through the system these days, of course a few do but as a % not many and at pick 30??? (even say pick 40-50 in a stronger draft).....anything possible but on history very unlikely.

On an aside i think we've stocked up pretty well in KP's it would be a 23-25yo strong inside mid i would chase - i just honestly dont see where we will find one who isnt already inside the AFL system.

My guess for this draft is mids & defenders - think we are stocked up on KP's and forwards but you can always use mids and a touch more class down back would be nice.

 

[shawthing09]

Re: The pick #30 debate

The point is I don't think that because they are mature you can just say they have to be ready to be best 22 from day one because the kid you draft won't be either.

I don't know this years draft pool well enough and when your talking mature age it gets even harder because you have to be across the state leagues.

It's easy to say a classy mid or young defender but whether one of those will be avalible at pick 30 remains to be seen. Especially the classy mid. If anything it's more likely you will get a hard nut who lacks polish then a polished player.

personally don't buy the surplus fowards thing. So far we have 2 proven AFL quality fowards.

We have Rusling who has shown plenty of promising signs aswell as plenty of restrictions but more then anything plenty of doubt over the body.

Dawes who has shown some promise and a couple of major flaws which unless addressed will hinder his ability to have real impact as an AFL foward.

Macaffer who is more medium then key foward.

Reid who is looking settled in defence and will make a good defender.

 

[Crazy Tails]

Re: The pick #30 debate

Thanks for your input in the thread guys it was exactly what I was looking for when I created it. The clips are great too TD (who I agree does have some Dave the Man characteristics) so keep them coming.

From what I have read I would like us to go for Troy Taylor at 30 if he is still there. So I am glad to hear from Didaka that we are keen and are looking at him. If we can't get Taylor then Griffiths looks like he would be a handy pick up too. Panos would be a dream at 30 but unlikely. The consensus seems to be that Josh Thomas will more than likely slide to 62; so we take him there. At 78 we could look at a mature aged discard (ala Leigh Brown selection) or as others have said Majak Daw. He could be anything with the athleticism he showed in that clip. Pretty much got every hit out and most went to advantage. That alone is a very handy trait. He runs like the wind too.

So from what I have seen and read so far if we could get: 30 - Troy Taylor; 62 - Josh Thomas; and 78 - Majak Daw or a mature aged discard that plays a position we lack in, I will be rapt.

Keep the names and opinions coming guys.

 

[TradeDraft]

How about for a Later Pick how about the Leading Goal Kicker in TAC Cup in Luke McDonald - 195cm 95kg


Video:

http://rangesfc.matchvision.com.au/player/luke_mcdonald

 

[Quicky]

Haha - was always wondering what was going to happen over draft time without DTM around and now we have either found DTM's new pseudonym or his identitical twin. Great stuff

 

[Pie eyed]

Haha - was always wondering what was going to happen over draft time without DTM around and now we have either found DTM's new pseudonym or his identitical twin. Great stuff

Dave must have turned on his spell-checker and grammar suggestions then.

I wonder how he's going?

Still puts the occasional post up on E,B&W.