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For anyone interested in listening here's a link:Yeah I listened to the podcast with interest. Find a fall guy and hang him out to dry to save the competition. They'll do the same with Fagan , it's the individual not to get system that's at fault. Just like 'gamble responsibly ' - the systems fine you're the stuff up.
Power, politics, and the AFL’s ‘Boys’ Club’ - ABC Radio National
It was originally recorded in March this year. It runs for an hour.