Roast Fremantle = Fail

[CamTinley]

There are 30 AFL umpires. A fair allocation would mean that every team would have 24 umpires twice in the home and away season + 6 umpires 3 times.

Collingwood got ...

Stevic 7 times
Rosebury 6 times + 3 finals = 9 times
Ryan 6 times + 3 finals = 9 times
McBurney 5 times
Chamberlain 4 times + 4 finals (every one) = 8 times
Pannell 4 times
Vosso 4 times

Grunn 0 times
Hay 0 times
Jennings 0 times
Keating 0 times
Schmitt 0 times
Sully 0 times
Armstrong 1 time
Dalgliesh 1 time
Kennedy 1 time
Margetts 1 time
Mollison 1 time
Stewart 1 time
Wenn 1 time

There are huge advantages in having umpires you're familiar with. I have umpired football and cricket (both in a paid capacity) and other sports in a non paid capacity.

Players eventually work out or know umpires and how they work. If you get an umpire you don't know there is a certain amount of anxiety.

There is no way the above situation should arise. Even if only for Brownlow Medal voting. If for example in a hypothetical situation umpire X didn't like player Y and he had him 8 times in a season. There is almost no way he would win the Brownlow. He may get votes but 3's could easily turn into 2's and 2's into 1's etc.

 

[Daicos Mullets]

I actually rate Freo pretty highly, they've got some good, skillful, exciting young players & play a fast, dahsing style of footy. I wouldn't be at all surprised if they figure highly in the finals over the next few years. On top of that, the Freo supporters I've met have been really genuine & down to earth, not at all arrogant. Once the Pies have won 4 flags in a row , I wouldn't mind if Freo snagged one.

 

[Vinnie Vegas]

I can honestly say I haven't thought about Freo since the Tarrant trade went through... They occupy an impossibly small part of my consciousness.

 

[PieBeast]

Cool. A hate thread not start by a West Coast type... and the premiers no less.

A pretty strange thread if you ask me.

There are 30 AFL umpires. A fair allocation would mean that every team would have 24 umpires twice in the home and away season + 6 umpires 3 times.

Collingwood got ...

Stevic 7 times
Rosebury 6 times + 3 finals = 9 times
Ryan 6 times + 3 finals = 9 times
McBurney 5 times
Chamberlain 4 times + 4 finals (every one) = 8 times
Pannell 4 times
Vosso 4 times

Grunn 0 times
Hay 0 times
Jennings 0 times
Keating 0 times
Schmitt 0 times
Sully 0 times
Armstrong 1 time
Dalgliesh 1 time
Kennedy 1 time
Margetts 1 time
Mollison 1 time
Stewart 1 time
Wenn 1 time

There are huge advantages in having umpires you're familiar with. I have umpired football and cricket (both in a paid capacity) and other sports in a non paid capacity.

Players eventually work out or know umpires and how they work. If you get an umpire you don't know there is a certain amount of anxiety.

There is no way the above situation should arise. Even if only for Brownlow Medal voting. If for example in a hypothetical situation umpire X didn't like player Y and he had him 8 times in a season. There is almost no way he would win the Brownlow. He may get votes but 3's could easily turn into 2's and 2's into 1's etc.

What size is your tinfoil hat ?

 

[DCFCFAN84]

Hardly anyone on our board really rates Grover in fact I would say half our board wouldn't even have him in our 22 http://bigfooty.com/forum/showthread.php?t=758570 . McPharlin may not be what he was a few years ago but he is still a very good defender. Luckily for us we have a very easy schedule with a massive 12 home games should cement us an easy spot in the top 4

 

[Daics35Marvel]

I find it very hard to get riled up at Freo. They're a bit like the Tiges, deserving of some success as long as it's not at our expense. To me at least, their supporters still seem pretty humble and rational. Not to mention that they play a pretty attractive style of football and have been very generous to us over the years. I will be forever grateful for Clement and it was pretty nice of them to borrow Tarrant and turn his career around.

 

[dominguez]

Never likely to be a threat as the younguns now need a few years to toughen up and then the oldies need replacing which means they still need to manage recruiting a lot better.

Nonsense, just 3 years ago our best 18 was led by Carr, Bell, Farmer, Black, Tarrant, Hasleby, Solomon, etc.

The Fremantle Football Club have got many, many things wrong since their inception but the list management over the last 3 off-season's has been outstanding.

 

[didaka]

Ouch, tough day to come out with this thread on the day they find out one of their best youngs will miss the entire year with an ACL.

I actually like what the dockers have been doing. Their recent recruiting has been very good, taking some really good juniors (Hill, Palmer, Morabito, Suban, Fyfe and Pitt will all be players, not to mention a few others including rookie listed players) and looking around the state leagues for some really good mature talent (Barlow, Silvagni, Ballantyne, Faulks and Mzungu whom all have great talents themselves). The mature aged recruits like Barlow and Ballantyne kind of make up for a few of those ordinary recruiting years a few years back

Hopefully they're not too far away. I wouldn't mind seeing them have a crack at the big one once our run is finished up with (hopefully that's a while down the road).

 

[Wizard]

Re: Fremntle = Fail

Haha good to see we're finally getting attention outside of WA - although i tend to agree to an extent, the hype we are getting as a club is sickening and troubling at the moment.
At this stage we have done diddly squat - hopefully thats about 10 months away and we have some real silverware but who knows.

As someone that doesn't mind Collingwood one little bit i hope to see you guys in some big games in 2011.

 

[DWil6]

There are 30 AFL umpires. A fair allocation would mean that every team would have 24 umpires twice in the home and away season + 6 umpires 3 times.

Collingwood got ...

Stevic 7 times
Rosebury 6 times + 3 finals = 9 times
Ryan 6 times + 3 finals = 9 times
McBurney 5 times
Chamberlain 4 times + 4 finals (every one) = 8 times
Pannell 4 times
Vosso 4 times

Grunn 0 times
Hay 0 times
Jennings 0 times
Keating 0 times
Schmitt 0 times
Sully 0 times
Armstrong 1 time
Dalgliesh 1 time
Kennedy 1 time
Margetts 1 time
Mollison 1 time
Stewart 1 time
Wenn 1 time

There are huge advantages in having umpires you're familiar with. I have umpired football and cricket (both in a paid capacity) and other sports in a non paid capacity.

Players eventually work out or know umpires and how they work. If you get an umpire you don't know there is a certain amount of anxiety.

There is no way the above situation should arise. Even if only for Brownlow Medal voting. If for example in a hypothetical situation umpire X didn't like player Y and he had him 8 times in a season. There is almost no way he would win the Brownlow. He may get votes but 3's could easily turn into 2's and 2's into 1's etc.

So that explins why the best player in 2010 came third in the brownlow and we did so amazingly well in free kicks. Thanks for clearing that up.
Most rediculous post ever?

 

[mattys123]

Ouch, tough day to come out with this thread on the day they find out one of their best youngs will miss the entire year with an ACL.

Yeah shocking news about Morabito, he is my favourite Freo player too, hopefully he can come back in 2012 and still be a star like his first season showed.

This hurts Freo in a "huuugggeee" way though, the kid was one of, if not their toughest midfielder, and we all know how much you need tough, inside mids to be successful in the AFL these days.

Anyway, shocking news, I wish him well in his recovery.

 

[Scodog10]

Collingwood got ...

Stevic 7 times
Rosebury 6 times + 3 finals = 9 times
Ryan 6 times + 3 finals = 9 times
McBurney 5 times
Chamberlain 4 times + 4 finals (every one) = 8 times
Pannell 4 times
Vosso 4 times

Grunn 0 times (South Australian)
Hay 0 times (South Australian only umpired 12 since 2009)
Jennings 0 times (not listed on the 32 man panel anymore)
Keating 0 times (West Australian 23 matches since 2008
Schmitt 0 times
Sully 0 times (46 matches since 2006)
Armstrong 1 time (20 matches since 2008)
Dalgliesh 1 time (8 matches since 2009)
Kennedy 1 time
Margetts 1 time (West Australian)
Mollison 1 time (23 matches since 2008)
Stewart 1 time (Tasmanian 23 matches since 2008)
Wenn 1 time

There are huge advantages in having umpires you're familiar with. I have umpired football and cricket (both in a paid capacity) and other sports in a non paid capacity.

Players eventually work out or know umpires and how they work. If you get an umpire you don't know there is a certain amount of anxiety.

As you can see from the bolded, many of the umpires that didn't cover our games have done only about 6-8 matches per season anyway and come from interstate so will most often umpire games from there home state. Finally do a distribution for Fremantle games, you might be surprised.

We are in a professional era of sport whether players feel comfortable with officials or vice versa has no bearing on the game at all. As for Fremantle who cares, they are only a Sandilands injury away from being irrelevant!

 

[ballanFYNE]

Re: Fremntle = Fail

ROFL, ROFL, ROFL.

Sorry, but if they are hanging their hat on a bloke who has had one kick in his finals career (be it an important one), well then they are screwed.

Jack Anthony hasn't had a kick on a good full back in his whole career, why would that change when he changes clubs?

Freo's threat comes from their speed, not from their forwards, although they would be better off using Pavlich as a permanent forward, more so to extend his career then anything, but also because they lack any real power forwards who can tear a game apart, and that's what you need in finals.

As I said, I see Freo as a potential top 4 side, but they will fail dismally in September, they aren't quite there yet.

So with a 2nd Key forward to back up Pavlich you don't think it makes us a premiership threat. Thanks for this guy free as well, at least we got Tarrant for something.

Not many teams give away a 50 goal a year key forward that is 22.

 

[mwalker]

Ouch, tough day to come out with this thread on the day they find out one of their best youngs will miss the entire year with an ACL.

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Me too. tough news, was/is he a defender? If so the loss of Tarrant may hurt more?

edit: just saw the past for inside mid. That prob sux more.

 

[TRAWP]

Re: Fremntle = Fail

So with a 2nd Key forward to back up Pavlich you don't think it makes us a premiership threat. Thanks for this guy free as well, at least we got Tarrant for something.

Not many teams give away a 50 goal a year key forward that is 22.

I would like a Fremantle supporter to pick out at least 2 players to ever go to Fremantle and "better" their game. Tarrant didn't, instead they changed his position. Cook was better in Sydney etc etc.

 

[Scodog10]

Re: Fremntle = Fail

I would like a Fremantle supporter to pick out at least 2 players to ever go to Fremantle and "better" their game. Tarrant didn't, instead they changed his position. Cook was better in Sydney etc etc.

Dale Kickett?.... Seriously though Matthew Carr was better at Fremantle than Collingwood and you could argue a case for Troy Simmonds as well.

 

[ballanFYNE]

Re: Fremntle = Fail

I would like a Fremantle supporter to pick out at least 2 players to ever go to Fremantle and "better" their game. Tarrant didn't, instead they changed his position. Cook was better in Sydney etc etc.

Headland and Mcpharlin to name two

 

[mattys123]

Re: Fremntle = Fail

So with a 2nd Key forward to back up Pavlich you don't think it makes us a premiership threat. Thanks for this guy free as well, at least we got Tarrant for something.

Not many teams give away a 50 goal a year key forward that is 22.

There's the word (or collection of words) that just shouldn't be used in conjunction with Jack Anthony.

He isn't a key position anything, he has to be the tallest medium forward in the competition, because that's how he plays. He doesn't contest for marks like a KPP should, he doesn't have any strength in one on one contests like a KPP should, and he simply doesn't have the presence, talent or ability to rip a game apart like any good key forward should.

There's a reason why no one gave us anything at all for him during trade week, think about it.

 

[TRAWP]

Re: Fremntle = Fail

Hmm yes i'll give you Matthew Carr, though Troy was/is a line ball...
And the Dale Kickett one is kind of an easy one...



Fitzroy (1990) 15 games, 13 goals

West Coast Eagles (1991)

2 games, 0 goals

St Kilda (1992)

21 games, 20 goals

Essendon (1994)

8 games, 7 goals

Fremantle (1995–2001)

135 games, 24 goals

But it probably also said something of the skill of Fremantle during that era as well.

 

[PieBeast]

Re: Fremntle = Fail

So with a 2nd Key forward to back up Pavlich you don't think it makes us a premiership threat. Thanks for this guy free as well, at least we got Tarrant for something.

Not many teams give away a 50 goal a year key forward that is 22.

Balla son, i think you're forgetting that JA kicked his 50 goals two seasons ago and last year he's been hopelessly out of form. As far as your trading history goes getting JA for bugger all should be considered a win for your mob but remember he comes with a baggage, a big baggage. I wish him well anyway and as i mentioned earlier i don't entirely agree with a premise of this thread. Shit news on Morra too.

 

[ballanFYNE]

Re: Fremntle = Fail

He delivers the goals like a key forward and I find him to be a good mark as well. Maybe he is a tall medium forward but that has worked for the dogs. Better forward option than Johnson as well

 

[CamTinley]

As you can see from the bolded, many of the umpires that didn't cover our games have done only about 6-8 matches per season anyway and come from interstate so will most often umpire games from there home state. Finally do a distribution for Fremantle games, you might be surprised.

We are in a professional era of sport whether players feel comfortable with officials or vice versa has no bearing on the game at all. As for Fremantle who cares, they are only a Sandilands injury away from being irrelevant!

I've done a distribution for all teams. The argument is still valid. Some teams got an even worse distribution than Collingwood. From memory, North Melbourne got the same umpire in 8 out of 22 games.

I disagree that an umpire has no bearing on a game. If a team consistently gets the best umpires (Collingwood) that means that other teams are getting the not so good umpires. Players get rattled by inconsistent/bad decisions.

 

[Zahki]

Re: Fremntle = Fail

I can see JA doing very well at Freo. I have no beef with them or JA, actually I'm looking forward to see how they go next year, though the Morabito injury is an unfortunate blow to them early on.

 

[Tarkyn_24]

You can usually rate the strength of the competition by comparing where Fremantle finish to past years. This bottom feeder rabble of a club made the eight this year, meaning, unfortunately, our premiership came in the weakest year since the Eagle's flag in 2006.

 

[CamTinley]

So that explins why the best player in 2010 came third in the brownlow and we did so amazingly well in free kicks. Thanks for clearing that up.
Most rediculous post ever?

It does actually, I'm surprised you can't see that.

On free kicks, your midfielders did do well there.