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Do you think they have the same discussion on the Calton board, or do they put stock in Curnow, McKay and Mcgovern and move on?
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5. L Casboult Blues 22 2.36
Was Tabs meant to dominate over these last 3yrs when our midfield was getting trounced and the only i50's we were able to conjure were Danyle Pearce type specials?
Our forwards have all struggled because our midfield has been poor, our forward structures have been woeful and the delivery i50 just as bad.
I'm not sure individuals should take the full blame when they've been set up so poorly.
The club addressed this over the off season getting in more KPF's so we can structure up in a more traditional sense. 2 KPF's + ruck/fwd.
Tabs is 25yrs old now, fit as a fiddle, one of the best contested markers in the AFL, a good shot on goal and he will be sharing the load in the forward line.
If the midfield improves as i think it will our new forward line will function much better. Puts Tabs down to average between 1.5 and 2 goals a game (around 35-45 goals if he plays all games).
Cox hasn't shown anywhere near enough this preseason to take the role from a 25yrs old Tabs about to hit his prime. The coaches obviously agree, sending Cox to the backline (Something I don't agree with fwiw).
No excuses this season for anyone. That goes for Lyon, our midfield and our forward line, including Tabs.
Team is looking in good shape. Expect less goals against and more goals for. (Tabs will be a be part of the goals for).
Good question it probably is debatable. There is no doubt Curnow is shaping to be a good player but McGovern ? He didn’t show that much at the crows and it ain’t hard to find a spot at the blues with how average their list is. That’s why he went there. I would choose the number one on average contested marking forward/player in the comp5. L Casboult Blues 22 2.36
Do you think they have the same discussion on the Calton board, or do they put stock in Curnow, McKay and Mcgovern and move on?
...from 2017Good question it probably is debatable. There is no doubt Curnow is shaping to be a good player but McGovern ? He didn’t show that much at the crows and it ain’t hard to find a spot at the blues with how average their list is. That’s why he went there. I would choose the number one on average contested marking forward/player in the comp
Yes he had a broken leg in 2018 why critique his output in 2018 on a year with a broken leg ? He Superman ? Lol...from 2017
Just making the point that 7 years on a list without a lot of output usually means the chop. Tabs now has the assistance so this will be the make or break year.
Oct 17, 2:35pm
Trade # 28
FRE
Fremantle receives Rory Lobb, a first-round draft pick (No.14 at time of trade) and two third-round draft picks (No.43 and 47 at time of trade)
From Greater Western Sydney
GWS
Greater Western Sydney receives two first-round draft picks (No.11 and 19 at time of trade)
From Fremantle
Oct 17, 2:33pm
Trade # 27
FRE
Fremantle receives Jesse Hogan and a fourth-round draft pick (No.65 at time of trade)
From Melbourne
MEL
Melbourne receives a first-round draft pick (No.6 at time of trade) and a second-round draft pick (No.23 at time of trade)
From Fremantle
Pick 30 | Pick 55 | |||
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Pick 19 | ||||
Lachie Neale | Fremantle | Brisbane Lions | Pick 6 | [53] |
Just making the point that 7 years on a list without a lot of output usually means the chop. Tabs now has the assistance so this will be the make or break year.
That wasn't your question. You asked what the 4 picks were, so I posted the trades for Hogan and Lobb. I wasn't being a smart-arse, I thought it was a genuine question.See, I think calling that 4 picks inside the top 25 is a tad dishonest. Clearly Fremantle got pick 14 back in the Lobb Trade. Which we used on Sturt.
In reality, Freo only had 1 pick inside the top 25 before the trade period. The trade with Port Adelaide turned it into 2. The trade with Brisbane made it 4. The trades with Melbourne and GWS returned it back to 1.
Pick 19 Pick 30 Pick 55
Lachie Neale
Fremantle
Brisbane Lions
Pick 6
[53]
The trades also gained Freo later draft picks, so that Valente and Bewley or Schulz could get picked up.
Wait - heaveho posted a stat from 2017 when he played 8 games- which is fine, but we can't critique 2018 because he only played 9 games? I'm so confused now I feel like I've just been to a Malthouse presser.Yes he had a broken leg in 2018 why critique his output in 2018 on a year with a broken leg ? He Superman ? Lol
You claimed we could have had 4 extra top 25 picks (you even named them) if we thought Taberner was good enough by himself to not need Hogan and Lobb. I asked you to explain because I couldn’t work out how you got 4. It was a genuine question. Once you explained, I realised you weren’t counting the picks we got back in during the trade period. Which I think is a tad dishonest.That wasn't your question. You asked what the 4 picks were, so I posted the trades for Hogan and Lobb. I wasn't being a smart-arse, I thought it was a genuine question.
He played majority of his games after recovering from a broken leg in 2018 what don’t you understand ? That’s why its silly to critique his output after it. How is that confusing?That wasn't your question. You asked what the 4 picks were, so I posted the trades for Hogan and Lobb. I wasn't being a smart-arse, I thought it was a genuine question.
Wait - heaveho posted a stat from 2017 when he played 8 games- which is fine, but we can't critique 2018 because he only played 9 games? I'm so confused now I feel like I've just been to a Malthouse presser.
Taberner was always a development player. The thing about him is that he has improved every year on the list. From someone who wasn’t strong, couldn’t hold his marks, couldnt run to the right positions, couldn’t kick, he now looks like a good foil to Hogan and Lobb. I reckon he’ll lose that hesitation that annoyed many of us, now he can actually spotup targets to kick to.
All well and good but 7 years in development is a hell of a long time. He needs to show something special this season or Freo have burned those 7 seasons. I personally think Cox has him covered in all aspects.
Nah, Cox is taking Aaron Naughton’s position in the backline.All well and good but 7 years in development is a hell of a long time. He needs to show something special this season or Freo have burned those 7 seasons. I personally think Cox has him covered in all aspects.
I don't think there's a point going around in circles. He's a divisive player. He certainly has the height and shown glimpses of talent. I don't see anyone who's saying he's ever put it together for any stretch of time, let alone a whole season. That's the frustration. Let's face facts though, he's in his 7th year and his best year is 18 goals.He played majority of his games after recovering from a broken leg in 2018 what don’t you understand ? That’s why its silly to critique his output after it. How is that confusing?
He can take all the contested marks in the world but his brain farts cost us goals and are coach killers.I prefer to measure Tabs’ worth via his contested mark numbers, as oppose to just his goal tally.
Many times, when the opposition is well setup, our ball handler is forced to blast the ball down the line. This usually ends up as an easy mark and rebound for the opposition.
When I said we play better with Tabs in, I mean that having Tab underneath the ball and that we are still able contest and possibly hold on to possession. This is turning a likely turnover into a inside 50 kick. In fact, during our best “high pressure” years, teams with a strong marking target is still able to beat out press.
We now have quite a lot of strong runners in the team. Having strong marking targets for them to kick to is going to be crucial.
The hilarious part is that we can't even throw Dixon to the wolves, because he is also injured.Looks like McCarthy's found his way back to being the number 1 man, with Lobb playing the resting ruck.