Freo's trading and drafting

[Lach72]

Speaking of... there's a certain irony about a poster who couldn't wait to get out of backwater Perth to go live in awesome 'Melbs' continually chucking tanties when we can't lure young, highly paid Victorian footballers who have no connection at all to Perth back the other way.

Quite.

 

[Silent Alarm]

Agreed, you have to appreciate the lifestyle to want to come here, Modra loved it though, no need to explain why.

Hopefully when we move to **** BUrn and the new stadia is running, we will start attracting more players

No. Players don't care that much about facilities and stadiums.

In fact, being out in boring, industrial, bland Cockburn is much less alluring than hanging out in Freo after training.

 

[Blackas87]

Fremantle are scared to pay the price. Started with Mitch Clark, it was well known months before the trade period Mitch wanted to head home and get to Fremantle, this deal should of been done on day one of Trade week. Stand off between Freo and Brissy allowed Melbourne to swoop. Freo then upped their offer but it was too late.

This year they really need a key forward, 1st on the ladder and only the ageing Pav up forward. Obviously made a big offer to get McCarthy but needed to offer big on the trade table to even get GWS thinking. Should of paid overs, their picks were never going to do it, needed to offer a top player that they could afford to lose but didn't want to. The lack of a key forward could be Freo missing another premiership chance.

 

[Borderline]

Agreed, you have to appreciate the lifestyle to want to come here, Modra loved it though, no need to explain why.

Hopefully when we move to **** BUrn and the new stadia is running, we will start attracting more players

People don't want to play for Freo because we're seen as a joke club who are everyone's second team but not to be taken seriously because we're too nice. Even though this is a relic from the early years when it was true, the stigma isn't going anywhere. Even St Kilda and Footscray who have been more pathetic than us for their existence aren't treated like that because they won a flag in a suburban comp 100 years ago. It's just the stigma of Freo, the purple, the old shitty jumpers, the incompetence off field, the exciting but inconsistent football. Even though that's all basically gone, people still havent forgotten it, and they won't until we win a flag - pure and simple.

 

[trentjac]

Must feel strongly posting it 3 times

 

[peppy la pew]

No. Players don't care that much about facilities and stadiums.

In fact, being out in boring, industrial, bland Cockburn is much less alluring than hanging out in Freo after training.

And here he goes again, stick to supporting one of your culture rich melbs teams, and leave the heavy lifting to the men and women who actually care and support this team

 

[The Passenger]

I loved the way those 2 really stood up in the GF.

 

[peppy la pew]

Fremantle are scared to pay the price. Started with Mitch Clark, it was well known months before the trade period Mitch wanted to head home and get to Fremantle, this deal should of been done on day one of Trade week. Stand off between Freo and Brissy allowed Melbourne to swoop. Freo then upped their offer but it was too late.

This year they really need a key forward, 1st on the ladder and only the ageing Pav up forward. Obviously made a big offer to get McCarthy but needed to offer big on the trade table to even get GWS thinking. Should of paid overs, their picks were never going to do it, needed to offer a top player that they could afford to lose but didn't want to. The lack of a key forward could be Freo missing another premiership chance.

2 paragraphs of utter bullshit, i am not going to repeat myself again because of lazy simpletones as yourself

You have NFI what was offered to GWS, none whatsoever, just as you have NFI what GWS said.

Ask yourself why Hogan isn't signing an extension, and then realise how much cash we will have when Pav, Mundy, Johnson, are gone

Scary isn't it

 

[W.C. Fry]

the cross-town rivals with a lesser coach

No.

 

[Blackas87]

2 paragraphs of utter bullshit, i am not going to repeat myself again because of lazy simpletones as yourself

You have NFI what was offered to GWS, none whatsoever, just as you have NFI what GWS said.

Ask yourself why Hogan isn't signing an extension, and then realise how much cash we will have when Pav, Mundy, Johnson, are gone

Scary isn't it

Hogan did sign an extension but this isn't about him.

McCarthy requested a trade, GWS held on to a player that doesn't want to be there, they know he is going to leave at some point. GWS couldn't get what they want for him this year.

Hopefully for Fremantles sake they are still in their window when they can get him.

 

[Borderline]

Must feel strongly posting it 3 times

Just my shit internet

 

[peppy la pew]

Hogan did sign an extension but this isn't about him.

McCarthy requested a trade, GWS held on to a player that doesn't want to be there, they know he is going to leave at some point. GWS couldn't get what they want for him this year.

Hopefully for Fremantles sake they are still in their window when they can get him.

Ok I'll play this once

What did GWS ask for, and what did Freo offer

Your Big Footy reputation is riding on this, GO

 

[Blackas87]

Ok I'll play this once

What did GWS ask for, and what did Freo offer

Your Big Footy reputation is riding on this, GO

Last year Tom Boyd under no circumstances was up for trade. The Dogs got their man. Freo didn't.

 

[LordLucifer]

OP speaks truth. And it seems other delusional Freo fans in this thread arent prepared to stomach it.

Richmond are the same. Missing opportunity for contention through pathetic trading. Really disappointed in my club

I agree with you.

Blind Freddy knows that Freo need another key forward yet their recruiting have failed to address the issue for way too long. This was the year they needed to throw the kitchen sink at someone because they may not get another crack at a flag for a while due to a changeover of key personnel.

I'd be reasonably confident that Carlton would of traded Casboult if the deal was too good to refuse plus Casboult himself would of made the move if the dollars were there too.

Really surprised at the lack of urgency from some of the clubs during the trade period with Freo being at the top of the list.

 

[tacopavlich]

Fremantle are scared to pay the price. Started with Mitch Clark, it was well known months before the trade period Mitch wanted to head home and get to Fremantle, this deal should of been done on day one of Trade week. Stand off between Freo and Brissy allowed Melbourne to swoop. Freo then upped their offer but it was too late.

This year they really need a key forward, 1st on the ladder and only the ageing Pav up forward. Obviously made a big offer to get McCarthy but needed to offer big on the trade table to even get GWS thinking. Should of paid overs, their picks were never going to do it, needed to offer a top player that they could afford to lose but didn't want to. The lack of a key forward could be Freo missing another premiership chance.

Freo used to be a joke club because they paid overs for short term gains and sold their future. Freo are now a joke club because we refuse to pay overs for unproven players.

Fre can't win can they.

 

[Max zero]

Yeo wanted to come to Fremantle.

And rumour was WC was Bennell's first choice till we knocked him back.

If we didn't have the history we have I reckon we would of gotten him too.

And Jetta and Redden.

 

[Borderline]

Ok I'll play this once

What did GWS ask for, and what did Freo offer

Your Big Footy reputation is riding on this, GO

Whatever your personal opinion is we have a surplus of quality midfielders who are far less vital to the team than what McCarthy would potentially be. Yeah don't get me wrong, it's pretty shit form from GWS keeping a young bloke there against his will and I'm sure it wouldn't do much for team morale, but they're entitled to drive the negotiations when someone wants their contracted player. The fact of the matter is Lyon, 'Bondy' and whoever else were either too stubborn or too incompetent to negotiate a deal GWS were happy with. Not least to bring in a player we're clearly crying out for structurally and potentially the missing piece in our premiership puzzle.

Put it this way, if hawthorn were in our situation and needed a key forward, they would've got him, or at least someone equally as good or better than him.

 

[Docker82]

Whatever your personal opinion is we have a surplus of quality midfielders who are far less vital to the team than what McCarthy would potentially be. Yeah don't get me wrong, it's pretty shit form from GWS keeping a young bloke there against his will and I'm sure it wouldn't do much for team morale, but they're entitled to drive the negotiations when someone wants their contracted player. The fact of the matter is Lyon, 'Bondy' and whoever else were either too stubborn or too incompetent to negotiate a deal GWS were happy with. Not least to bring in a player we're clearly crying out for structurally and potentially the missing piece in our premiership puzzle.

Put it this way, if hawthorn were in our situation and needed a key forward, they would've got him, or at least someone equally as good or better than him.

When was the last time Hawthorn traded out a quality player?

Facts are we haven't really had the opportunity to get a key forward the same way Hawthorn did through trade. We should've drafted some rather than assuming we'd be able to get some the year after.

 

[peppy la pew]

Last year Tom Boyd under no circumstances was up for trade. The Dogs got their man. Freo didn't.

So with your Big Footy reputation on the line

You FAILED to disclose the deal that Freo proposed and GWS subsequently refused

You honestly think Boyd is equal to McCarthy ?

Just as stupid is the fact you think Griffen is equal to Fyfe, the Brownlow medalist

Please go away

 

[peppy la pew]

Whatever your personal opinion is we have a surplus of quality midfielders who are far less vital to the team than what McCarthy would potentially be. Yeah don't get me wrong, it's pretty shit form from GWS keeping a young bloke there against his will and I'm sure it wouldn't do much for team morale, but they're entitled to drive the negotiations when someone wants their contracted player. The fact of the matter is Lyon, 'Bondy' and whoever else were either too stubborn or too incompetent to negotiate a deal GWS were happy with. Not least to bring in a player we're clearly crying out for structurally and potentially the missing piece in our premiership puzzle.

Put it this way, if hawthorn were in our situation and needed a key forward, they would've got him, or at least someone equally as good or better than him.

Again, tell me what GWS asked for, then tell me what Freo offered ?

Please dont say something intelligent like " not enough " seriously tell me.

 

[Borderline]

When was the last time Hawthorn traded out a quality player?

Facts are we haven't really had the opportunity to get a key forward the same way Hawthorn did through trade. We should've drafted some rather than assuming we'd be able to get some the year after.

Hawthorn have lost plenty of young promising players who left because they weren't able to break into to the dominant side, they lost the likes of Suckling this year and from all reports pushed Lake and Hale into retirement due to cap pressure.

But they still found a way to bring in Lake, Frawley and McEvoy in the last 3 years. Quality players who filled a need in the team and helped them stay at the top. I agree that the drafting was a joke, but the hoarding of midfielders we've been doing means we can afford to lose some, obviously the club didn't see it that way.

Again, tell me what GWS asked for, then tell me what Freo offered ?

Please dont say something intelligent like " not enough " seriously tell me.

From what I've heard all we've offered was "an improved combination of draft picks" as of yesterday. I don't know what GWS were asking, but there's no reason we couldn't have thrown in Barlow or Weller to sweeten it up, hell I don't agree with it but even Neale isn't as important to the team as McCarthy would be. If GWS weren't interested in those players we should've tried to trade them elsewhere for picks and then used those on McCarthy. I don't know the specifics but good recruiting teams would've worked a deal out one way or another.

 

[Blackas87]

So with your Big Footy reputation on the line

You FAILED to disclose the deal that Freo proposed and GWS subsequently refused

You honestly think Boyd is equal to McCarthy ?

Just as stupid is the fact you think Griffen is equal to Fyfe, the Brownlow medalist

Please go away

Never did I claim McCarthy as equal to Boyd

Never did I claim Griffen to be equal as Fyfe

Never Did I claim I knew what GWS asked for. (they probably didn't asked for anything)

What i'm saying is Boyd wanted out, McCarthy wanted out. GWS know these players want to leave. Both occasions they said the players are not up for trade. Knowing Boyd will eventually leave they waited until the dogs gave them a big offer that they considered too good.

Knowing McCarthy will eventually leave (his manager said he hates living in Sydney), He will not be at GWS in a few years time. But they held onto him because unlike the Boyd case they didn't get an offer they considered too good or at least good enough for him.

 

[Docker82]

Hawthorn have lost plenty of young promising players who left because they weren't able to break into to the dominant side, they lost the likes of Suckling this year and from all reports pushed Lake and Hale into retirement due to cap pressure.

But they still found a way to bring in Lake, Frawley and McEvoy in the last 3 years. Quality players who filled a need in the team and helped them stay at the top. I agree that the drafting was a joke, but the hoarding of midfielders we've been doing means we can afford to lose some, obviously the club didn't see it that way.


From what I've heard all we've offered was "an improved combination of draft picks" as of yesterday. I don't know what GWS were asking, but there's no reason we couldn't have thrown in Barlow or Weller to sweeten it up, hell I don't agree with it but even Neale isn't as important to the team as McCarthy would be. If GWS weren't interested in those players we should've tried to trade them elsewhere for picks and then used those on McCarthy. I don't know the specifics but good recruiting teams would've worked a deal out one way or another.

Franklin - free agent
Suckling - free agent
Savage - asked to leave and was worth nothing to Hawthorn

They did not ever make the decision to trade a best 22 player, especially not one with around 10 years of service left.

Again we should've drafted better. We missed one or two. I don't see the non trading as a positive for the club but most of the deals we've gone for have been unrealistic. Mitch Clark was the only one we truly stuffed up. Teams don't trade good key forwards unless they want out and they are out of contract. Hawthorn or any other team never got a contracted high quality KPF.

 

[peppy la pew]

Hawthorn have lost plenty of young promising players who left because they weren't able to break into to the dominant side, they lost the likes of Suckling this year and from all reports pushed Lake and Hale into retirement due to cap pressure.

But they still found a way to bring in Lake, Frawley and McEvoy in the last 3 years. Quality players who filled a need in the team and helped them stay at the top. I agree that the drafting was a joke, but the hoarding of midfielders we've been doing means we can afford to lose some, obviously the club didn't see it that way.


From what I've heard all we've offered was "an improved combination of draft picks" as of yesterday. I don't know what GWS were asking, but there's no reason we couldn't have thrown in Barlow or Weller to sweeten it up, hell I don't agree with it but even Neale isn't as important to the team as McCarthy would be. If GWS weren't interested in those players we should've tried to trade them elsewhere for picks and then used those on McCarthy. I don't know the specifics but good recruiting teams would've worked a deal out one way or another.

Maybe if you read our board, sorry my board, the Freo board, you might find the truth.

Read the comments on the official FFC website, GWS were unwilling to part with Cam, after last year " it would be a bad look for us " said Gubby

Freo offered 22 + next years first plus a player and his wages, WTF more do you want.

Sick and tired of shallow downhill skiers who pretend to support this club, suddenly popping up to make disparaging remarks about the club because we didn't draft Buddy the 4th strike Franklin
Who then dissappear until we lose our first game of the season

"From what i've heard" give me a break, you have read what a fellow hipster flog pissed and moaned about, then decided to add to to it,

 

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