List Mgmt. Fyfe - Signed until 2023!!

[malpaso]

Explain why . There forward half is nothing special.

You lost me at 'Explain'

 

[G Mus]

The Veterans Allowance was abolished at the end of 2016.

http://www.afl.com.au/news/2016-03-08/new-veterans-rule-put-all-clubs-on-a-level-playing-field

Ooh that's interesting. Wonder what the lump sum is going to be

 

[StCicatriz]

Also we are already paying him $800-900k. We only need to come up with $300-400k more which the cap increase should allow without much fuss.

We have alot of older players to go at the end of the season. Plenty of money will be available.

Reality is if the saints deal is a long term one which it should be. It means any club could match. It's just a matter of if they want to which freo will. Not that I think he leaves

The only way the saints out bid anyone is if it's a short term deal. Due to the banking mechanism which doing some quick sums an extremely conservative estimate would have us 600k clear of any other club per annum for 2 years. Reality is given we are only paying 95% of the cap we should have at extremely conservative estimates 1.2m p.a. of spending money. Reality is it should be considerably higher than that for 2018 and 2019 given we've been preparing for this for the last 6 years including front loading contracts. So I would guess wed have near on 2m to spend in 2018 and 2019

 

[clivenator26]

What if it's a 3 year deal?

Then the same principles apply. Money isn't the issue for Freo, it's if Fyfe genuinely wants to leave.

I reckon 6 yrs freo will do ignore I think gets to 7-9 crazy Buddy type deals then we might have to pull out. It's odd to me that a guy with two broken legs recently hasn't signed for security yet but I'll take him at his word for another few weeks before being a sceptic.

 

[StCicatriz]

Then the same principles apply. Money isn't the issue for Freo, it's if Fyfe genuinely wants to leave.

I reckon 6 yrs freo will do ignore I think gets to 7-9 crazy Buddy type deals then we might have to pull out. It's odd to me that a guy with two broken legs recently hasn't signed for security yet but I'll take him at his word for another few weeks before being a sceptic.

On a three year deal you run into existing limitations within your TPP then you're competing against a rivals superior salary cap. Not that I think the 3 year deal will ever happen so my points irrelevant other than to point out the amount of free cap space sides that have used the banking mechanism will have in a year where the salary cap will increase

 

[Dirty_banchez]

Nope. The club is in a good position - provided he truly doesn't want to leave.

I firmly believe if he hasn't signed by end of month then he is gone, there is speculation now, he said he'd sign if things became distracting.

I am now 5% worried, I was 0.000001% worried on Monday morning.

He won't re-sign until round 13-14. Could be earlier but most likely then.

Fyfe is staying 99.999% sure about that. Fyfe has a huge amount of influence at the club.

lol just lol @ Defacto and all his cronies that have infested the board. Once again Saints supporters proving to be the greatest scrubs since Lebum James, and Fat boy Lowry.

The St Kilda football club will go home empty handed after hitting on every guy/girl at the club. Ameet Bains could learn a few lessons from Big Dick Lloyd.

 

[StCicatriz]

He won't re-sign until round 13-14. Could be earlier but most likely then.

Fyfe is staying 99.999% sure about that. Fyfe has a huge amount of influence at the club.

lol just lol @ Defacto and all his cronies that have infested the board. Once again Saints supporters proving to be the greatest scrubs since Lebum James, and Fat boy Lowry.

The St Kilda football club will go home empty handed after hitting on every guy/girl at the club. Ameet Bains could learn a few lessons from Big Dick Lloyd.

Lol who's Lowry?

 

[Steinfreo]

Ohhh these are just all alternate accounts of that dude that hates us for the Ross Lyon thing. Makes sense now.

 

[STK2020]

He won't re-sign until round 13-14. Could be earlier but most likely then.

Fyfe is staying 99.999% sure about that. Fyfe has a huge amount of influence at the club.

lol just lol @ Defacto and all his cronies that have infested the board. Once again Saints supporters proving to be the greatest scrubs since Lebum James, and Fat boy Lowry.

The St Kilda football club will go home empty handed after hitting on every guy/girl at the club. Ameet Bains could learn a few lessons from Big Dick Lloyd.

Im 99.999% sure we will land our fish .
Cheer up old boy , Im sure Harley Bennell will crack a game in 2018.

 

[TheMcManusNose]

On a three year deal you run into existing limitations within your TPP then you're competing against a rivals superior salary cap. Not that I think the 3 year deal will ever happen so my points irrelevant other than to point out the amount of free cap space sides that have used the banking mechanism will have in a year where the salary cap will increase

Be interested to see any data you have on that.

Reason I ask is that we've been throwing close-to-1M contracts at various KPPs for the last 5 years without success. So i'm somewhat leery of the idea that we wouldn't have the capacity to match a high value short term contract.

 

[wayToGo_]

Ross seems confident http://www.afl.com.au/news/2017-05-02/fyfe-odds-in-freos-favour-lyon-declares

Speaking for the first time since a Perth radio host claimed Fyfe had verbally agreed a $1.5m a year deal to join St Kilda – a report immediately dismissed by the Brownlow medallist's management – Lyon was glowing about his captain's commitment to Freo.

Lyon was also confident the Dockers have provided an environment where the 25-year-old superstar would want to stay.

"I have no expectations. I don't set it too high and I don't get disappointed," Lyon told Channel Seven when asked about Fyfe's future beyond this season.

"He's fully committed, he's with us – possession is nine-tenths of the law – and he's our captain.

"We love him, he loves Perth, he loves his family, so I would think the odds are in our favour.

"But we've got to be commercial, provide an environment … at the end of the day it's not my job to sign Nathan.

"My job is to provide an environment that he enjoys playing in, growing in and improving in and we feel we've done that over a long period of time."

 

[ilikepotatoes]

Didn't realise this was the St Kilda board...

 

[StCicatriz]

Be interested to see any data you have on that.

Reason I ask is that we've been throwing close-to-1M contracts at various KPPs for the last 5 years without success. So i'm somewhat leery of the idea that we wouldn't have the capacity to match a high value short term contract.

You know about the banking mechanism right?

 

[clivenator26]

Reality is if the saints deal is a long term one which it should be. It means any club could match. It's just a matter of if they want to which freo will. Not that I think he leaves

The only way the saints out bid anyone is if it's a short term deal. Due to the banking mechanism which doing some quick sums an extremely conservative estimate would have us 600k clear of any other club per annum for 2 years. Reality is given we are only paying 95% of the cap we should have at extremely conservative estimates 1.2m p.a. of spending money. Reality is it should be considerably higher than that for 2018 and 2019 given we've been preparing for this for the last 6 years including front loading contracts. So I would guess wed have near on 2m to spend in 2018 and 2019

A player can only accept one offer from an opposing club.

 

[StCicatriz]

A player can only accept one offer from an opposing club.

Of course I'm talking about the offers made prior to Fyfe selecting the one he wants I.E. the negotiation process that's going on

 

[TheMcManusNose]

You know about the banking mechanism right?

As in banking the unused 5% of TPP for the next year? Sure.

I'm asking what specific evidence you have that St.Kilda have a significantly greater capacity to pay player(s) over the next 3 years than Freo. Because as far as i'm aware none of it is public.

 

[StCicatriz]

As in banking the unused 5% of TPP for the next year? Sure.

I'm asking what specific evidence you have that St.Kilda have a significantly greater capacity to pay player(s) over the next 3 years than Freo. Because as far as i'm aware none of it is public.

No one knows to answer your question. Other than media reports on the matter.

 

[G Mus]

As in banking the unused 5% of TPP for the next year? Sure.

I'm asking what specific evidence you have that St.Kilda have a significantly greater capacity to pay player(s) over the next 3 years than Freo. Because as far as i'm aware none of it is public.

I'd say we have just as big a war chest, with the added factor we already have 600k or so dedicated to Fyfe so we're starting ahead financially too

 

[Clems Knee]

Didn't realise this was the St Kilda board...

That's part of the trade deal. St. Kilda get Fyfe and the Fremantle BigFooty board, and Fremantle get an empty chip packet and a smile.

 

[meima]

I am pretty happy this St kilda Rumours come out , this confirm that fyfe will be 99.9999999% with freo next season .

http://www.afl.com.au/news/2017-05-02/fyfe-odds-in-freos-favour-lyon-declares

 

[clivenator26]

Just a note on cap space. Does it surprise anyone that Sandi is an unrestricted free agent which means he isn't in the top 10 players at the club? He's probably our 2nd most important player, I guess a low wage still beats mowing lawns but maybe this shows we do still have a decent amount of cap space.

 

[TheMcManusNose]

Just a note on cap space. Does it surprise anyone that Sandi is an unrestricted free agent which means he isn't in the top 10 players at the club? He's probably our 2nd most important player, I guess a low wage still beats mowing lawns but maybe this shows we do still have a decent amount of cap space.

I'm not sure that's correct. You're certainly right with respect to players who have served 8 years only, they are restricted rather than unrestricted if they are in the top 25% of players at the club for salary. However I read the rules as stating once that player reaches 10 years of service, they are unrestricted. Similar to how Mundy was a UFA (is definitely in the top 25% at 700k), Sandi is a UFA because of that.

I think previously Sandi was our highest paid player at one stage and his last contract was "near $1M" so i'd be amazed if he wasn't still on serious coin. http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/a...s/news-story/acf98e2892cdbbb803ea53573dbd478f

With respect to your cap space point I think that kind of adds to the point that we'd have a serious amount of dollars banked in Mundy, Johnson and Sandi who reasonably have 1-2 years left each. I don't think we'll have any issues any time soon.

 

[Arcassius]

We've been front loading contracts for years now ourselves - with the aim of luring back home a KPP. I cant imagine we don't have a similar sized kitty that we can simply apply to this situation

 

[Taylor]

There is also a provision that a player is only a restricted free agent the first time they qualify. Subsequent times, unrestricted

 

[Dump Truck]

I can't seem to find them going through google but does anyone have links to the Mundy/Pav type articles where they were 100% leaving?

Or the Judd ones where he was 100% staying?