Geelong – most loved to most disliked?

[DAWESOME!!]

Geelong fast becoming a clear third behind Carlton and Essendon (only due to the doping, prior to that I was neutral re them) on my most disliked list. Would definitely support any of Sydney, Hawthorn or Freo over them.

Don't see that changing either while Selwood and co keep in playing to draw frees and the umpires keep giving them arm chair rides.

 

[Mr Meeseeks]

I'd say (and often do at games) that Puopolo has mastered the ancient art of duck style kung fu. Leads with the head IMO. Doesn't seem to be picked up by commentators though.

Probably bc he is so little. But he's a shocker for it. So is Lewis to an extent. I don't like it, it is a bad look and I never defend it. Cynical.

All teams have these guys, but it seems to be recently systemic at Geelong. As it seemed to be at WC a year or two ago.
Selwood, SJ, Christenson and to an extent, Stokes... They've always been shockers but in the past two weeks, it's taken on another level. The youngsters are doing it regularly. Bartel and Mackie too. It's a clear directive IMO.

I'm not one to judge, I think it's a terrible look but I can understand it. Bit like diving in soccer and standing yr ground in cricket. Looks bad but at the top level it's cut throat. It's up to the umps to stop it, not the players.

But I do think THATS why Geelong are coming across as more disliked. It's not jealousy. Geelong also can't be blamed for the poor umpiring.

My point is, neutral punters (happy to admit regarding gee, syd and Carl, I'm not one!) just want to see honest footy, these are the people the cats are losing due to the way they have been going about it recently.

 

[kaiserchief13]

Why are the umpires not stopping giving the free kicks like they did to WC?

 

[Kangaroos4eva]

When furious simpletons, unable to think critically, start mouthing/keyboarding off about some fanciful theory and confuse opinion and group-think with fact, you zone out. I'm zoning out right now. I couldn't get more zoned out. zzzzzzzzzzz

Has anybody got any actual evidence, of any kind, to support any of the ridiculous raving? No? Thought not. Keep chasing those phantoms, people.

Second quarter against North is fairly compelling evidence.

 

[Kangaroos4eva]

The hating because of success is a flawed argument, neutrals have typically, including myself, supported Geelong over their last seven years of success, it's only this year in response to a few umpired impacted games that are peeving off a few neutrals and the one arrogance of main board cats about it making it worse than it should be.

 

[Stocks_go_Up]

Ironic considering your team only won because of one call.

Where did I say we deserved to win? Neither team really deserved to win as neither put the game away. A draw would have been more appropriate. People focus on the last minute of the game, little do they realise the other 98% of the game that decides where each team is at that point.

They ignore the calls for Geelongs opposition that go on through the rest of the game and start screeching when we get a free kick in the last 5 minutes. For those who aren't aware the game is played over 4 quarters and decisions go both ways over the entirety of the match, focusing on 1 decision screams sour grapes because it is.

 

[SuperCats9]

Where did I say we deserved to win? Neither team really deserved to win as neither put the game away. A draw would have been more appropriate. People focus on the last minute of the game, little do they realise the other 98% of the game that decides where each team is at that point.

They ignore the calls for Geelongs opposition that go on through the rest of the game and start screeching when we get a free kick in the last 5 minutes. For those who aren't aware the game is played over 4 quarters and decisions go both ways over the entirety of the match, focusing on 1 decision screams sour grapes because it is.

Well said. But you can't stop these whinging fools, who are in a state of mess because of last night.

Carlton had all game to do things right, and get the job done, they didn't and so they blame a decision by an umpire late in the fourth, when throughout the game, Carlton got some free kicks just as soft as that.

 

[Lunchlady Doris]

Aaahhhh it's good to be hated.

Christensen free was clearly there. Had space on the defender, defender chops the arms, should have been paid for that.

Hand may have been on the back for a fraction of a second, but the correct decision was made, just got there the wrong way.

Confirmation bias in action for all the peanut gallery posters in here.

 

[Lunchlady Doris]

Have there been any teams who hit 16-4 like Geelong just have with worse percentage? (112.4%)

Geelong fans you may keep on rolling the dice in the close games this year, but eventually Russian Roulette will kill you.

We're on top of the ladder mid-rebuild. We won't win the flag, but winning games is never bad.

 

[Mningasimisonda]

Hawkins should've got a free most times it went forward last night. Was being held so he couldn't even run at it and front on contact in marking contests seems to have gone out the window. It got about zero mentions by the commentary.

Then in the last quarter channel 7 finds their controversy moment (couldn't be Stevie J for once because he wasn't playing) and replays the **** out of it then asks about it in the press conference.

The stuff is as scripted as The Bachelor or any other reality TV show, and Geelong is disliked more now because they have chosen Geelong to be the villain. If they actually changed their methods occasionally it would be less obvious.

If you actually take a step back Geelong are a young and exciting though somewhat unpredictable team.

 

[Gibbke]

Ultimately, that decision did cost Carlton the match, provided they were then able to hang onto the ball, which you'd think they had a reasonable chance of. They, of course, were the team that gave away a spectacularly inconvenient mark to Freo right in front of goal at the death two weeks before, so they also had a reasonable chance of not doing it as well, I guess...

Good teams get out of jail. What we're seeing is a team who can't rely on stark superiority these days, because most of those players are gone. But the belief and attitude and culture and all that still remains, and more importantly their footballing intelligence when the crunch comes. Been there, done that...too old, too slow, too good is the title of a Hawk video from 1991, not something originally inspired by anything the Cats have done recently, but the sentiment is spot on...

Then there's luck - Geelong should have lost to Freo, and the direct reason they didn't is because two Freo players missed gettable set shots they are probably still kicking themselves over, nothing Geelong did or could control. So Chris Scott and Selwood are both right when they attribute luck as important factors in their winning ways recently, in the interviews straight after the game...

It's a tough one to quantify, because only the most one eyed Cat would consider this season anywhere near as authoritive as the three flag seasons despite the current WL record. At times, they've fallen off the perch and landed in the big pile of their own crap at the bottom of the cage, and at others they've been the loudest bloody thing in the house. On performances through the season, they haven't been as authorative or performed as well as Hawthorn or Sydney, but we all know what they've been able to do to the Hawks over time no matter who the TAB had as favourites, and who'd put it past them to beat Sydney in a GF even after that 20 goal loss?

I consider them the second best team ever, a team I admire, and who I would have barracked for last night over Carlscum if it wasn't for that top of the ladder thing going on at the moment, but for me they are the wildcard premiership fancy...there's 1 and 2 (us and Sydney), then there's 3 and 4 (Cats and Freo), and then there's nothing...

 

[I am Jack]

I don't think Geelong are a threat this year.
Too many holes in their list.

 

[Kangaroos4eva]

Ultimately, that decision did cost Carlton the match, provided they were then able to hang onto the ball, which you'd think they had a reasonable chance of. They, of course, were the team that gave away a spectacularly inconvenient mark to Freo right in front of goal at the death two weeks before, so they also had a reasonable chance of not doing it as well, I guess...

Good teams get out of jail. What we're seeing is a team who can't rely on stark superiority these days, because most of those players are gone. But the belief and attitude and culture and all that still remains, and more importantly their footballing intelligence when the crunch comes. Been there, done that...too old, too slow, too good is the title of a Hawk video from 1991, not something originally inspired by anything the Cats have done recently, but the sentiment is spot on...

Then there's luck - Geelong should have lost to Freo, and the direct reason they didn't is because two Freo players missed gettable set shots they are probably still kicking themselves over, nothing Geelong did or could control. So Chris Scott and Selwood are both right when they attribute luck as important factors in their winning ways recently, in the interviews straight after the game...

It's a tough one to quantify, because only the most one eyed Cat would consider this season anywhere near as authoritive as the three flag seasons despite the current WL record. At times, they've fallen off the perch and landed in the big pile of their own crap at the bottom of the cage, and at others they've been the loudest bloody thing in the house. On performances through the season, they haven't been as authorative or performed as well as Hawthorn or Sydney, but we all know what they've been able to do to the Hawks over time no matter who the TAB had as favourites, and who'd put it past them to beat Sydney in a GF even after that 20 goal loss?

I consider them the second best team ever, a team I admire, and who I would have barracked for last night over Carlscum if it wasn't for that top of the ladder thing going on at the moment, but for me they are the wildcard premiership fancy...there's 1 and 2 (us and Sydney), then there's 3 and 4 (Cats and Freo), and then there's nothing...

Very good post.

 

[Lunchlady Doris]

Ultimately, that decision did cost Carlton the match, provided they were then able to hang onto the ball, which you'd think they had a reasonable chance of. They, of course, were the team that gave away a spectacularly inconvenient mark to Freo right in front of goal at the death two weeks before, so they also had a reasonable chance of not doing it as well, I guess...

Actually it was the defender infinging on Christensen because he was going to take a clear mark within range that cost them that free kick. Nothing more or less.

Good teams get out of jail. What we're seeing is a team who can't rely on stark superiority these days, because most of those players are gone. But the belief and attitude and culture and all that still remains, and more importantly their footballing intelligence when the crunch comes. Been there, done that...too old, too slow, too good is the title of a Hawk video from 1991, not something originally inspired by anything the Cats have done recently, but the sentiment is spot on...

Then there's luck - Geelong should have lost to Freo, and the direct reason they didn't is because two Freo players missed gettable set shots they are probably still kicking themselves over, nothing Geelong did or could control. So Chris Scott and Selwood are both right when they attribute luck as important factors in their winning ways recently, in the interviews straight after the game...

Bit simplfied - Geelong missed 3 very gettable shots at the start of the 4th quarter which could have taken the game away. If we're going to do a hypothetical where Freo kick straight, we should pretend Geelong did too.

 

[pinot]

Admired them but now really dislike them for armchair ride to top four.

 

[I am Jack]

Admired them but now really dislike them for armchair ride to top four.

Yeah, but it won't matter.
They look completely shot to me.

 

[Kangaroos4eva]

Both sides got some pretty average frees (that bump free), which l think in the end evened out the contest with Geelong being slightly cleaner with the footy going inside fifty, their misses kept it closer than what it probably should have been, unlucky Carlton, they played well, just not clean enough.

 

[Seeds]

Probably still will be. Media brainwashing (read floggy channel 7 commentators)

You are kidding right? the media have been brainwashing everyone to think Hawthorn is always the best team in the comp ever since 2008.

 

[Seeds]

Admired them but now really dislike them for armchair ride to top four.

Your club has a way way better free kick ledger than Geelong this year and you won it again clearly last night. The brainwashing going on here and denial of the facts is a psychologists dream.

 

[JUBJUB]

Have there been any teams who hit 16-4 like Geelong just have with worse percentage? (112.4%)

Geelong fans you may keep on rolling the dice in the close games this year, but eventually Russian Roulette will kill you.

If only we were 10-9 and unlikely to play finals

 

[Seeds]

Hawkins should've got a free most times it went forward last night. Was being held so he couldn't even run at it and front on contact in marking contests seems to have gone out the window. It got about zero mentions by the commentary.

Then in the last quarter channel 7 finds their controversy moment (couldn't be Stevie J for once because he wasn't playing) and replays the **** out of it then asks about it in the press conference.

The stuff is as scripted as The Bachelor or any other reality TV show, and Geelong is disliked more now because they have chosen Geelong to be the villain. If they actually changed their methods occasionally it would be less obvious.

If you actually take a step back Geelong are a young and exciting though somewhat unpredictable team.

Yep happens every week there is a close game. One random free towards the end that is given to the winners is the cause of the result even though it wouldn't even get a passing mention if it happened 5 mins earlier or to the side of the losers. Geelong always wins the close ones so they are always the villains.

 

[hoss]

Hate for Geelong has only come the last 2 years so has nothing to do with being successful or they would've been hated ages ago. Look at the jeers Selwood cops now, happens for a reason obviously. Really affected his mindset last night too. Hardly touched it in the second half.

 

[SuperCats9]

Would surprise me if Selwood is affected by knob-head fans jeering him. His quiet 2nd half has more to do with Carrazzo and the fantastic job he did on him.

Selwood generally struggles with a close tag.

 

[Seeds]

The count could be 20-1 but if those 20 are there and the 1 isn't and happens to give a match winning goal to the side...

There's obviously no conspiracy but the free kick tonight was incredibly ordinary and would be called play on the vast majority of the time. The fact the controlling umpire did call play on and had to be overruled by someone who could not have had a clear view of the incident based off how far away he was only adds fuel to the flames.

Yes the cats almost kicked themselves out of it in the third, but the goal that got them home should never have been paid.

Omg you think there is only one contentious decision on the night? Half the frees in any game are contentious and then there is all the frees the could of been given as well. The player had both hands (not just one) in Christensens back. There was very little force but that free would be paid 50 percent of the time and no one would talk about it if it wasn't in the last 3 mins of a close game.

 

[hoss]

Would surprise me if Selwood is affected by knob-head fans jeering him. His quiet 2nd half has more to do with Carrazzo and the fantastic job he did on him.

Selwood generally struggles with a close tag.

You're probably right but I don't buy into the line that the crowd never affects players though. Selwood must in the least thought, why am I getting booed like I've kinghit someone behind play.