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Geelong is a small town between farmland and the sea. Adelaide is a capital city.

I get that. But I wouldn’t exact say Francis Evans was lost due to wanting to go to a bigger club or even a capital city. It was more to do with playing opportunity. He played 27 games at Port in two years and 7 at Geelong in two years. It was a smart career move.
 
I get that. But I wouldn’t exact say Francis Evans was lost due to wanting to go to a bigger club or even a capital city. It was more to do with playing opportunity. He played 27 games at Port in two years and 7 at Geelong in two years. It was a smart career move.
I'm only going off what Evans has said himself, that tiny towns such as Geelong do not suit his tastes and desires. He is flourishing where the bright lights are and many players have that lure.
 

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Yeah, I was making fun of Carlton
It’s all good. I often make fun of Carlton as well.
I'm only going off what Evans has said himself, that tiny towns such as Geelong do not suit his tastes and desires. He is flourishing where the bright lights are and many players have that lure.

Fair enough mate. I had no idea Francis made those comments.
 
Apart from being incredibly well run...

The biggest reason Geelong has been so successful is because they practically have the home ground advantage of an interstate team, without having to travel every second week, whilst also getting sufficient exposure to the MCG (6-7 games a year).

Just a unique quirk of being the only regional team in the state.

Additionally - with the advent of social media and increased media scrutiny, it does seem a lot more attractive for some players to hide in Geelong rather then go to a big Melbourne club with increased scrutiny, and there seems to be a weird pattern of Geelong player indiscretions being swept under the carpet by the media (see Stengle/Rohan and a few others).
 
Apart from being incredibly well run...

The biggest reason Geelong has been so successful is because they practically have the home ground advantage of an interstate team, without having to travel every second week, whilst also getting sufficient exposure to the MCG (6-7 games a year).

Just a unique quirk of being the only regional team in the state.

I know this isn’t a pointed shot at us and just pointing out circumstances.
But what is with this sufficient exposure shit? Aside from crowd size which I guess MIGHT overawe some of the mentally weaker players who don’t get exposure there, most grounds are reasonably similar dimensions to the MCG anyway aside from probably Adelaide, and we have a good record at every ground in the comp. Perth is our worst venue along with the Showgrounds currently since Scott took over and we have a 6-6 win loss record there. And and an 2-2-1 record at the Showground (we are 2-1 at Manuka during that time against the Giants). Even the SCG during that time, a period in which the Swans have been the next most consistently good side, we have a winning record.
At Adelaide we are 14-9. At Carrara we are 8-4. If you’ve played somewhere a couple of times, at the professional level, that should be enough. If the Giants can keep coming to KP once every year or two and smacking us, why does every other team need to be familiar with a ground to have an advantage there!

If you want an outlier for us I guess you can go to Darwin where we lost our only game to the Suns last year. I don’t blame that on familiarity. We got absolutely f**ken hammered. I blame it on us being shit and the Suns playing out their arse.
 

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PlayerDraft TypeDraft Pick Details
Zach Guthrie2017 Rookie DraftPick 33 overall Wikipedia
Jack Henry2016 Rookie DraftPick 16 overall WikipediaAustralian Football Stats
Mark O’ConnorCategory B RookieSigned outside the draft in October 2016 Wikipediageelongcats.com.au
Lawson Humphries2023 National DraftPick 63 – penultimate pick afl.com.auThe Guardian
Tom Stewart2016 National DraftPick 40 Wikipediageelongcats.com.au
Mark Blicavs2012 Rookie DraftPick 54 FOX SPORTSTheBench
Gryan Miers2017 National DraftPick 57 Wikipediageelongcats.com.au
Max Holmes2020 National DraftPick 20 (via trade with Richmond) Wikipediageelongcats.com.au
Oliver Dempsey2022 Rookie DraftPick 15 overall WikipediaAustralian Football Stats
Brad CloseNo draft information found (likely rookie/undrafted)
Shaun Mannagh2023 National DraftPick 36 Wikipediaafl.com.au
Tyson Stengle2016 Rookie DraftPick 6 by Richmond (later joined Geelong via trade/recruitment) WikipediaFootyWire
Shannon Neale2020 National DraftPick 33 WikipediaZero Hanger
Jeremy Cameron– (Trade acquisition)Traded from GWS after initial drafting; original pick unspecified geelongcats.com.augwsgiants.com.au
Patrick Dangerfield2007 National DraftPick 10 by Adelaide WikipediaAFL News
Sam De Koning2019 National DraftPick 19 geelongcats.com.au+1
Bailey Smith– (Trade acquisition)Originally drafted Pick 7 in 2018 by Western Bulldogs; later moved to Geelong geelongcats.com.auThe Guardian
Tom AtkinsRookie
Connor O'Sullivan2023 National DraftPick 11 Herald Sun
Oisín Mullin– (likely Category B)International signing (no pick) The Sun
Jack Bowespick 10.

Apart from being incredibly well run...

The biggest reason Geelong has been so successful is because they practically have the home ground advantage of an interstate team, without having to travel every second week, whilst also getting sufficient exposure to the MCG (6-7 games a year).

The biggest reason Geelong has been so successful is because of 'Geelong's recruiting and development' over a sustained period of time and to think otherwise is pure ignorance. (SEE ABOVE geelong_crazy26: current list ✅) If Geelong end's up having a statue of Chris Scott outside our main entrance down at the Cattery then they should also have one of Stephen Wells alongside of him as he has been the MAIN mastermind behind Geelong's long sustained success in competing in finals on an almost regular basis since 2007. The 'good fortune' Geelong FC has has had in this time was getting Tom Hawkins as a F/S and the other getting superstars Paddy Dangerfield and Jeremy Cameron into the club, along with Bailey Smith being a nice bonus in recent times. But buy and large it's all been about 'recruitment and development' that has led to Geelong's long stained success of playing in finals...... in Wells and Mackie we trust and GO CATS !!!
 
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Tach Zuohy.
I'm framing it as the success that players have had elsewhere before they went to Carlton. Thomas was a premiership player at the Pies and Frank the Tank was part of our premiership list before they moved to Carlton. I forgot to include Judd though so Frank moves down to being the third most successful Carlton player of recent times. Obviously Tuohy, like every other Carlton player, had zero success until they moved on.
 
Is it time we bring in measures, outside those that arrnt working, to bring Geelong back to the pack?
Their finals and top 4/Prelim/GF appearances have made a mockery of the equalisation measures that are supposed to see teams cycle up and down the ladder.

The AFL gave Sydney COLA to get them going, should Geelong have their salary cap cut significantly to slow them down like a racehorse carries weight?

This should be something the Carltons, Essendons, Bulldogs, Norths etc. Should also be asking for as its becoming clear that the big Vic clubs are starting to canibalise those struggling clubs to a greater extent since the Interstate clubs are managing retention better.
What are they going to do, make us start drafting at pick 40?

Wouldn't make a difference as most of our players were taken after that pick anyway.

If anything it's the first round picks we **** up
 
Apart from being incredibly well run...

The biggest reason Geelong has been so successful is because they practically have the home ground advantage of an interstate team, without having to travel every second week, whilst also getting sufficient exposure to the MCG (6-7 games a year).

Just a unique quirk of being the only regional team in the state.

Additionally - with the advent of social media and increased media scrutiny, it does seem a lot more attractive for some players to hide in Geelong rather then go to a big Melbourne club with increased scrutiny, and there seems to be a weird pattern of Geelong player indiscretions being swept under the carpet by the media (see Stengle/Rohan and a few others).
Wasn't Steele Sidebottom found wandering the streets naked? We never heard much about that
 

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Aristotle Pickett

Since geelong building a list compiled of cat B rookies, 3rd-4th round picks, and rookie picks with a couple of trades is rorting tye system, would love your thoughts on if Richmond getting tom lynch for free is rorting the system, or top ten picks for daniel rioli and baker.

Would love to find out the equity on these
 
Aristotle Pickett

Since geelong building a list compiled of cat B rookies, 3rd-4th round picks, and rookie picks with a couple of trades is rorting tye system, would love your thoughts on if Richmond getting tom lynch for free is rorting the system, or top ten picks for daniel rioli and baker.

Would love to find out the equity on these
The rorts are Bowes and pick 7 for free ,and Bailey Smith , Dangerfield and Cameron for well unders.
 
So tom lynch for free is spot on the mark?? Dan rioli for pick 6 isnt overs??
Lynch wasn't a rort he was our 1 free agent in 15 years.
Rioli is well worth pick 6, they won their first final ever didn't they?
Dangerfield and Cameron should have been two top 5 picks and Bailey Smith should have been a top 5 pick.
 

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