Geelong rorting the system

[The Casey Cat]

Chuffed that he changed the rules of Australian Rules Football and it benefitted his club.

Yes. Like the third man up rule. Massive benefit for us and Blicavs that was. Again try having a think for once you stupid, ignorant child.

 

[PhatBoy]

The rorts are Bowes and pick 7 for free ,and Bailey Smith , Dangerfield and Cameron for well unders.

We’ve established that Cameron wasn’t unders though.

We got rid of an All Australian podium finisher in the Brownlow medal in order to secure an ultimate price tag of three first round draft picks.

We tried to get Dangerfield as a free agent but couldn’t so we traded for him. You didn’t trade for Lynch.

We lost Gary Ablett and our compensation for him was two first rounders. You traded out Shai Bolton and pick 14 and got back 3 first rounders. One first rounder cancels out one that you get back. So essentially the AFL is saying that peak Ablett Jr is worth the same currency as Shai Bolton now.

Another Richmond rort.

 

[My Tilly]

LIST OF GEELONG RORTS:

* Play home games at their actual home ground.

* Have brought in free agents and trades from other clubs.

* Actively try to not be crap.

* Draft local boys.

* Have the ability to turn late picks and blokes from unusual backgrounds into great players.

Horrific stuff......

Also add the following to the list:


* Past Geelong player Steven Hocking worked for the AFL

* Government funded loan to complete the development of Kardinia Park

* Receive fewest amount of high draft picks

* Father/Son selections Scarlett, Hawkins, Ablett become champions but lose Egan, N.Ablett, Menzel via early retirement & injury.

* 2025 Fixture ranked equal 5th hardest but teams expected to do well go backwards so general consensus is AFL helped the club out.

* Club selects young players and allow them to develop for years before selection into best 22. Young players emerge as future guns. General public speculate the club is secretly zoning these stars by hiding them away somewhere.

 

[Gazza Greatness]

* Father/Son selections Scarlett, Hawkins, Ablett become champions but lose Egan, N.Ablett, Menzel via early retirement & injury.

At draft time Matthew Scarlett's pick range was 35 to 50, Ablett Jnr was 25 to 40 and Hawkins was clear number ONE. It was Hawkin's where the Cat's won out big-time, with Scarlett and Ablett it made no difference and therefore no advantage and anybody that says otherwise is either trolling or uninformed.

 

[Aristotle Pickett the3rd]

If Geelong aren't rorting the system why is there over 4,500 posts on this thread about rorts?

 

[My Tilly]

At draft time Matthew Scarlett's pick range was 35 to 50, Ablett Jnr was 25 to 40 and Hawkins was clear number ONE. It was Hawkin's where the Cat's won out big-time, with Scarlett and Ablett it made no difference and therefore no advantage.

Yep, spot on.
Scarlett was the one touted as having major question marks.

 

[Spearman]

I have too. We could explain it to this dipsh!t a billion times and it wouldn't matter. In his ignorant, pathetic, childish mind anything he doesn't personally like in the world is unjustly wrong and warrants him pretending and playing 1+1=3 with it about everything to do with it.

and repeats over and over in the same threads

 

[Wojcinski]

If Geelong aren't rorting the system why is there over 4,500 posts on this thread about rorts?

because nuffies can't admit that Geelong is one of, if not the best run club in the league so they resort to coping mechanisms and conspiracy theories. You knew that though

 

[catters_28]

If Geelong aren't rorting the system why is there over 4,500 posts on this thread about rorts?

Because you've made about 4,999 of them?

 

[Aristotle Pickett the3rd]

Because you've made about 4,999 of them?

No only 124 from me.

 

[PhatBoy]

If Geelong aren't rorting the system why is there over 4,500 posts on this thread about rorts?

Because you can’t sleep at night without medication due to an unhinged obsession with us and shooting you down has become the number 1 participation sport for Cats fans on the main board due to how easy it is.

 

[PhatBoy]

No only 124 from me.

That a non-supporter of the team feels that invested in another club that he feels THAT compelled to keep going ‘they HAVE to be cheating’ says all you need to know about how fried you are over us. And when your own club gets the blowtorch put back on it you can’t give an answer. At least we answer your nuff questions.

 

[sleep]

If Geelong aren't rorting the system why is there over 4,500 posts on this thread about rorts?

Geelong isn’t rorting the system — they are the system.

Tommy Harley was shipped off to the Swans to disguise his allegiance, and now he’s back at the AFL as COO.

This is AIPAC-level influence over US politics — only in footy form.

 

[Seeds]

We’ve established that Cameron wasn’t unders though.

We got rid of an All Australian podium finisher in the Brownlow medal in order to secure an ultimate price tag of three first round draft picks.

We tried to get Dangerfield as a free agent but couldn’t so we traded for him. You didn’t trade for Lynch.

We lost Gary Ablett and our compensation for him was two first rounders. You traded out Shai Bolton and pick 14 and got back 3 first rounders. One first rounder cancels out one that you get back. So essentially the AFL is saying that peak Ablett Jr is worth the same currency as Shai Bolton now.

Another Richmond rort.

Why are you even bothering arguing with him. His club literally took gold coasts captain, best player and full foward for free the year they won the flag. Zero compo given. We paid 3 round first draft picks when we did the same with gws best foward.

 

[Seeds]

At draft time Matthew Scarlett's pick range was 35 to 50, Ablett Jnr was 25 to 40 and Hawkins was clear number ONE. It was Hawkin's where the Cat's won out big-time, with Scarlett and Ablett it made no difference and therefore no advantage and anybody that says otherwise is either trolling or uninformed.

And ablett would of only been 25-40 because of his father and known genes. He was an absolute light weight tiny kid at draft time. Without the name and known biological background he probably was a rookie pick as he would of been deemed too small to make it.

 

[PhatBoy]

Why are you even bothering arguing with him. His club literally took gold coasts captain, best player and full foward for free the year they won the flag. Zero compo given. We paid 3 round first draft picks when we did the same with gws best foward.

And GWS were good.

 

[Art Vandelay_]

Geelong rorting the system

Why not. You’re complaining and you didn’t have a dog in the fight. I just want an even playing field.

www.bigfooty.com

you really getting your knickers in a twist over this RPCB

Pretty sad really, when in reality he has a point. When 11/23 are after pick 40 in the national draft, rookies, or cat b/international players the profile should be a team far closer to bottom 4 than top 4.

Apparently that viewpoint geelong_crazy26 is considered arrogance.

 

[RPCB]

Geelong rorting the system

Why not. You’re complaining and you didn’t have a dog in the fight. I just want an even playing field.

www.bigfooty.com

you really getting your knickers in a twist over this RPCB

Pretty sad really, when in reality he has a point. When 11/23 are after pick 40 in the national draft, rookies, or cat b/international players the profile should be a team far closer to bottom 4 than top 4.

Apparently that viewpoint geelong_crazy26 is considered arrogance.

Do I think Chris Scott is a great coach? Yes. Do I think if someone else was coaching Geelong, you would be bottom 4? No. Did I call Geelong fans humble because of that post? Yes.

So not really seeing your issue…

It’s like your lot getting your knickers in a twist whenever someone names Matthew Scarlett as a free hit F/S you benefitted from. Because apparently he was a nothing F/S. He was the FB of the year in the TAC Cup in 1997. He was highly rated. It’s okay to admit that.

Back in those days F/S players were free hits, so there really isn’t any reason to defend yourselves by rating your early 2000’s F/S players lower. It’s totally fine that you benefitted from a rule that other clubs benefited from.

 

[Art Vandelay_]

Do I think Chris Scott is a great coach? Yes. Do I think if someone else was coaching Geelong, you would be bottom 4? No. Did I call Geelong fans humble because of that post? Yes.

So not really seeing your issue…

He has a very valid point so not sure why it'd be brought up at all?
You know I'd go and check. Weird given the discussion was about Collingwood as a club.

It’s like your lot getting your knickers in a twist whenever someone names Matthew Scarlett as a free hit F/S you benefitted from. Because apparently he was a nothing F/S. He was the FB of the year in the TAC Cup in 1997. He was highly rated. It’s okay to admit that.

Back in those days F/S players were free hits, so there really isn’t any reason to defend yourselves by rating your early 2000’s F/S players lower. It’s totally fine that you benefitted from a rule that other clubs benefited from.

F/S were a free hit but doesn't mean every one of them had some intrinsic benefit as a result.
Many older than I recollect Scarlett being less rated than you're suggesting, and there's plenty to suggest that had Ayres remained as coach he'd not have made it. Was struggling until Thompson came along.

 

[RPCB]

He has a very valid point so not sure why it'd be brought up at all?
You know I'd go and check. Weird given the discussion was about Collingwood as a club.

It was meant as a lighthearted joke to say Geelong fans are more humble than Collingwood fans. Don’t condemn me for that.

F/S were a free hit but doesn't mean every one of them had some intrinsic benefit as a result.
Many older than I recollect Scarlett being less rated than you're suggesting, and there's plenty to suggest that had Ayres remained as coach he'd not have made it. Was struggling until Thompson came along.

And you kept him in the end and he turned into perhaps the best defender of the last 25 years. So being highly rated as a junior ended up translating into his AFL career.

 

[HairyO]

Do you know how negotiations work? I've explained the Bowes thing before.

Gold Coast mucked up their salary cap so they had a NEED to offload salary.
Bowes had a contract and was ENTITLED to stay at Gold Coast.
Gold Coast ASKED him to explore other options.

Geelong wasn't willing to take him on such a high salary, so negotiated a PICK from Gold Coast to sweeten the deal.
Gold Coast had plenty of young highly-rated draftees so that pick was less valuable to them.

It's not rocket science. Simple negotiation and deal making. If Gold Coast were unhappy about it they WOULD NOT HAVE MADE THE DEAL.

Its more that Geelong knew about the Suns being in trouble because Hocking shared the knowledge.

 

[geelong_crazy26]

Do I think Chris Scott is a great coach? Yes. Do I think if someone else was coaching Geelong, you would be bottom 4? No. Did I call Geelong fans humble because of that post? Yes.

So not really seeing your issue…

It’s like your lot getting your knickers in a twist whenever someone names Matthew Scarlett as a free hit F/S you benefitted from. Because apparently he was a nothing F/S. He was the FB of the year in the TAC Cup in 1997. He was highly rated. It’s okay to admit that.

Back in those days F/S players were free hits, so there really isn’t any reason to defend yourselves by rating your early 2000’s F/S players lower. It’s totally fine that you benefitted from a rule that other clubs benefited from.

I think there is a very valid argument another coach developing this list geelong has would be bottom 4.

Show me the list makeup of the other top 4.. or even top 8 sides and what draft pick their players were originally, and you will see that geelong has by far one of the worst list makeups in terms of capital.

We took 10 dollars a turned it into 1,000.

Chris Scott has probably turned over 50-60 best 22 players across his 14-15 years and you know what the one constant is?? He keeps making top four.

Do you honestly think it is all just a coincidence and fluke with constantly such crap picks??

If anyone else could do it.. then why aren’t they with even better picks??

 

[Art Vandelay_]

It was meant as a lighthearted joke to say Geelong fans are more humble than Collingwood fans. Don’t condemn me for that.


And you kept him in the end and he turned into perhaps the best defender of the last 25 years. So being highly rated as a junior ended up translating into his AFL career.

Apologies. Didn't pick up on the humour.
Thought it was another shot like the others, when all I did was praise Collingwood as a club.

 

[RPCB]

I think there is a very valid argument another coach developing this list geelong has would be bottom 4.

I think your list is pretty fantastic, with lots of depth. So a top 8 spot should be easily obtainable with a different coach at the helm (and it doesn’t even need to be someone like Dimma). I will say that I think Chris Scott is the best coach in the league and always good for 3-4 wins just based off his coaching.

Show me the list makeup of the other top 4.. or even top 8 sides and what draft pick their players were originally, and you will see that geelong has by far one of the worst list makeups in terms of capital.

We took 10 dollars a turned it into 1,000.

Chris Scott has probably turned over 50-60 best 22 players across his 14-15 years and you know what the one constant is?? He keeps making top four.

Do you honestly think it is all just a coincidence and fluke with constantly suck crap picks??

Geelong are great at topping up every year. You basically don’t need to go to the draft. That’s the benefit of being Geelong and being an attractive destination for talented locals players you have been able to get back to Geelong from other clubs.

 

[RPCB]

Apologies. Didn't pick up on the humour.
Thought it was another shot like the others, when all I did was praise Collingwood as a club.

Nah, it’s all good mate.