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...refugees weren't being 'vilified' lol. I said that I've seen some Syrian refugees with more positive outlooks (they survive wars, corruption, famine and rampant destruction and still manage to see the good in life). It's tongue in cheek, but it's not disparaging towards them. It is towards cynical though. Which is fair, given that he disparages everything about our club at every turn. He isn't the worst offender though...I'll give him that


Vilification:

noun

  1. abusively disparaging speech or writing.
    "the widespread vilification of politicians"
I wasnt saying you were vilifying refugees. I got the humour, just think making overarching statements about a poster isnt right.
 
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So we got closer to beating Richmond than pretty much anyone when it counted. We're obviously not that far away so which type of player or players do we need to be looking to add to progress a couple of steps further.

That's the question that this thread should be hinging on... not who we need but what we need.
Stan you are still here.
I reckon we need toughness, skill by foot and speed. We also need a first class ruck.
A fit Cockatoo, would be a great starting point.
Laird would bring foot skills
A fit Steven some grunt
Then offer 7 years to Grundy.
Deal done
 
Yeah Papley but isn't Brad Hill in the middle of a very long contract too? Tells the Hawks he needs to go home then a couple of years later he wants back to Vic. Serious, imagine if Tim Kelly requested a trade to a Melbourne club in a couple of years. They're takin the piss.
Remember it was reported two hawks players assaulted a girl in a taxi and at a hawks players place. Never heard about it since. Hill runs to WA.
Food for thought.
 
Fitness for the finals would be a higher priority than the players imo

regarding the players Laird would allow a mobile backline , Jenkins could allow a more mobile Hawkins in the forward line ....if the club doesn’t think Kruger will be able to play much senior games in the next year or so.

Jenkins, Hawk, Rohan, Sav, Dahl, Cocky

with Miers , Ablett and Danger taking stints would be a nightmare forwardline for the comp if it works out well.
 

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Some people are suggesting Lewis Taylor....is the "no dickheads" pre-requisite gone?

I'd want very heavy due diligence before considering Bennell
I’ve heard he trains harder than anyone but is no good on the drink esp when under stress. Ross Lyon is no fool. Bennell also just had a kid and is 25 so maybe that straightens u up. Not saying he has changed but he is mighty tempting with these new rules. Unlimited access to the new doctor that saved his legs supposedly. Like Lana says we can just cut him before the draft next yr off the rookie list if it doesn’t work out.
 
What do people want on here from WCE for TK:

A) Pick 14 + 2020 First Round;

or

B) Pick 14 + 24 + 33.

OR go to Freo and get:

C) Pick 6 (+ Pick 26 hopefully).
 
I’ve heard he trains harder than anyone but is no good on the drink esp when under stress. Ross Lyon is no fool. Bennell also just had a kid and is 25 so maybe that straightens u up. Not saying he has changed but he is mighty tempting with these new rules. Unlimited access to the new doctor that saved his legs supposedly. Like Lana says we can just cut him before the draft next yr off the rookie list if it doesn’t work out.
Can we sign as a Delisted FA? No rookie or draft required.
 
So we got closer to beating Richmond than pretty much anyone when it counted. We're obviously not that far away so which type of player or players do we need to be looking to add to progress a couple of steps further.

That's the question that this thread should be hinging on... not who we need but what we need.
It’s a fair question but a hard one. We clearly weren’t far off and, as evidenced by our record, don’t have many obvious holes.

You could say the ruck but there’s challenges filling that hole. Firstly, there are only a handful of gun ruckmen going round at any time and none of them are attainable. Secondly, if you can’t get a gun then is a B-grader really much of an upgrade on what we have already? Marginally. Drafting one has a high bust rate and takes years to beat fruit anyway.

I’d say when we have fallen down in finals recently we have struggled to score. We have lacked potency. I’d be focusing on bringing in players who hit the scoreboard, be they forwards or mids.
 
It’s a fair question but a hard one. We clearly weren’t far off and, as evidenced by our record, don’t have many obvious holes.

You could say the ruck but there’s challenges filling that hole. Firstly, there are only a handful of gun ruckmen going round at any time and none of them are attainable. Secondly, if you can’t get a gun then is a B-grader really much of an upgrade on what we have already? Marginally. Drafting one has a high bust rate and takes years to beat fruit anyway.

I’d say when we have fallen down in finals recently we have struggled to score. We have lacked potency. I’d be focusing on bringing in players who hit the scoreboard, be they forwards or mids.
You could argue that changes in the coaching could make a world of difference, my changes would be focussed on a full time Ruck coach and a new midfield coach.
 
In Laird (1st+), Crouch (Future 1st+), Steven, Jenkins, hopefully the WA ruck with Pick 16, # 36, Guthrie upgrade, Bennell as a rookie

Out Kelly, Scooter, Taylor, Zsmith, Menegola (traded for something to add to Adel) Jones, Cunico, Buzza
 
I’ve heard he trains harder than anyone but is no good on the drink esp when under stress. Ross Lyon is no fool. Bennell also just had a kid and is 25 so maybe that straightens u up. Not saying he has changed but he is mighty tempting with these new rules. Unlimited access to the new doctor that saved his legs supposedly. Like Lana says we can just cut him before the draft next yr off the rookie list if it doesn’t work out.
almost 27...not 25..but with kid etc.. maybe the heads right but is he capable of getting fit again..
 

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I’ve heard he trains harder than anyone but is no good on the drink esp when under stress. Ross Lyon is no fool. Bennell also just had a kid and is 25 so maybe that straightens u up. Not saying he has changed but he is mighty tempting with these new rules. Unlimited access to the new doctor that saved his legs supposedly. Like Lana says we can just cut him before the draft next yr off the rookie list if it doesn’t work out.
Re Bennell, he knows he only has one more shot. He now has a family, Lyon backed his case for being picked up. We are a club that gives him that opportunity. If all works we automatically have kelly's loss covered.
I pushed for a Pickett pick up at mid year draft.
Bennell has a similar flavour.
Rather us than Richmond be successful with Pickett, Stack and Bennell
Id love him on our list if his calves are right now.
He wants a crack after all he's been through. Resilience is just what we need
 
What do people want on here from WCE for TK:

A) Pick 14 + 2020 First Round;

or

B) Pick 14 + 24 + 33.

OR go to Freo and get:

C) Pick 6 (+ Pick 26 hopefully).

of those choices B

Maybe some steak knives too, exchange later pick or future 3rd 2nd etc
 
almost 27...not 25..but with kid etc.. maybe the heads right but is he capable of getting fit again..
Big gamble but in the same sense not. Given his age he probably needs to be at a contending team with experienced players that want to win now. Also off Broadway which Geel is in a sense.
 

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I’ve heard he trains harder than anyone but is no good on the drink esp when under stress. Ross Lyon is no fool. Bennell also just had a kid and is 25 so maybe that straightens u up. Not saying he has changed but he is mighty tempting with these new rules. Unlimited access to the new doctor that saved his legs supposedly. Like Lana says we can just cut him before the draft next yr off the rookie list if it doesn’t work out.

Very small town over here , you can’t hide. Let’s just say he plays very well off the field with a suspect cohort and undoes a lot of injury rehab in the process.
His ship has sailed , do not want☹️
 
In Laird (1st+), Crouch (Future 1st+), Steven, Jenkins, hopefully the WA ruck with Pick 16, # 36, Guthrie upgrade, Bennell as a rookie

Out Kelly, Scooter, Taylor, Zsmith, Menegola (traded for something to add to Adel) Jones, Cunico, Buzza
Perhaps I've missed something here but I assume you are banking on adding at least 1 additional 1st rounder in both 2019 & 2020 (possibly for Kelly) because we can't trade out our 1st rounder this year or next without trading additional ones in.

"...GEELONG won't be able to offer a first-round draft pick from this year or next...unless it can trade another one in beforehand.

The Cats are the only club in the competition that must use its 2019 first-round selection, with the AFL's rule on trading first-round picks kicking in this year.

They also can't trade their top 2020 choice in this year's NAB AFL Trade Period, because they used just one first-round selection in the past four drafts from 2015 to 2018..."

That quote was from afl.com.au
 
Perhaps I've missed something here but I assume you are banking on adding at least 1 additional 1st rounder in both 2019 & 2020 (possibly for Kelly) because we can't trade out our 1st rounder this year or next without trading additional ones in.

"...GEELONG won't be able to offer a first-round draft pick from this year or next...unless it can trade another one in beforehand.

The Cats are the only club in the competition that must use its 2019 first-round selection, with the AFL's rule on trading first-round picks kicking in this year.

They also can't trade their top 2020 choice in this year's NAB AFL Trade Period, because they used just one first-round selection in the past four drafts from 2015 to 2018..."

That quote was from afl.com.au
Can trade a first if you get AFL permission and you haven't stuffed your list up
 
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