Rumour GFC 2020 Player Trading, Drafting FA, Rumours and Wish lists Pt2

[cats_09]

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[Turbocat]

One pick and two rookie upgrades - Close and Okunbor?
If Okunbor is moved to the main list that would be very good news about his recovery from the Achilles injury and progress overall

Not sure... I can see them trimming it if they have any doubts.. list reduction reduces tolerance a bit

 

[CatToTheFuture]

One pick and two rookie upgrades - Close and Okunbor?
If Okunbor is moved to the main list that would be very good news about his recovery from the Achilles injury and progress overall

Yeah I was amazed to see him playing scratch matches this year. I'm hoping they stream a few vfl matches this year. There's a lot to check in on

 

[Turbocat]

I read something about the pies doing a massive salary cap dump with an eye on next year's FA.
Any ideas on who's available?
Surely after the way these players have been treated you'd think twice about going to the pies?

They are talking about Merrett from Ess...but there are others. Bont at Dogs for eg.

 

[Turbocat]

Yeah I was amazed to see him playing scratch matches this year. I'm hoping they stream a few vfl matches this year. There's a lot to check in on

considering the new comp will have a lot more attention ... I hope they stream too

 

[CatToTheFuture]

That is not the intent of my post, i respinded to ..

If we have one pick you'd surely go for a KPD from one of the state leagues?

In my mind we have coverage to some degree for KPP witb Kruger and SDek ....

Maybe but the fact neither has played a game makes me nervous. One has played majority forward in the twos and the other looks still too skinny though a summer in the gym may change that.

 

[Turbocat]

I wonder if it makes more sense to try and trade up next year. In different circumstances giving up three first rounders for Cameron would seem excessive, but half the draft pool hasn't played footy this year. Makes it a much bigger punt than usual.

Unless there is someone we really like ..that slides in draft ..I think we hold

 

[Turbocat]

Maybe but the fact neither has played a game makes me nervous. One has played majority forward in the twos and the other looks still too skinny though a summer in the gym may change that.

In relation to our weakest role coverage ..I feel we have more KPP coverage than ruck

 

[catempire]

This is a good attempt at quantifying the fallout. Check out Collingwood!

 

[frggr]

November 20: List Lodgment #1
November 27: List Lodgment #2


Thinking we won't hear more about Steven for a few days - his spot on the list wasn't really relevant to the events of trade week, but more relevant now that we know list sizes

The club has advised Narkle, Jarvis & Zuthrie that they'd like to retain them but it depends on list sizes - the club will now be looking at things, strongly encouraging Steven to seriously consider his future & if he's 100% committed to football, otherwise the club would probably prefer to use his spot for one of those younger guys

Ah, good summary. I forgot about the list lodgement dates.

Surely they hold on to Narkle - he's got the most value of the three there and wasn't even looked at during the trade period. I hope we hold onto him anyway

 

[Ricky Vaughn]

Eddie literally said this morning when talking about their mess.

"All we talk about is Collingwood. I mean we still haven't had one conversation about Geelong and whether they paid way to much for Cameron. I mean a million bucks for a 29 year old. Sold their future"

He is literally a flog of the very highest order. Answered no questions, blindly said the club was right and tried to kick under clubs under the bus. Pathetic.

He's hit all points there.
Shameless deflection
Aged him up (he's 27)
Exaggerated his contract amount
Thrown in a lazy "sold the future" troll.

 

[frggr]

This is a good attempt at quantifying the fallout. Check out Collingwood!

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Holy shi---

 

[Del28562]

So any Ruckman in Australia that’s ready made for pick 51??

Why did we not try get Hayes from Port Adelaide during trade week?

 

[MelbCat]

They are talking about Merrett from Ess...but there are others. Bont at Dogs for eg.

If Selwood retires and Menengola leaves surely we'd have a truck load of money to throw at someone?

 

[CatToTheFuture]

In relation to our weakest role coverage ..I feel we have more KPP coverage than ruck

Yeah but I think we can be competitive even if we're rolling Fort through there.

We are going to need an empty forward line next year to give Cameron and Hawk space. When it rebounds out it'll have speed on it. If it ends up we have a kid too skinny on say Lynch, or a guy who hasn't played enough with the defenders to know how to block up space in front of a Kennedy we would be in much more trouble I feel.

 

[CatToTheFuture]

This is a good attempt at quantifying the fallout. Check out Collingwood!

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Oh my God. Collingwood!

They have some serious FS talent coming in though. I think they'll be fine

 

[CatToTheFuture]

If Selwood retires and Menengola leaves surely we'd have a truck load of money to throw at someone?

Let's start a rumour that it's Dunkley

 

[catempire]

Let's start a rumour that it's Dunkley

Step 1: Rookie his brother.

 

[Down at K Park]

I read something about the pies doing a massive salary cap dump with an eye on next year's FA.
Any ideas on who's available?
Surely after the way these players have been treated you'd think twice about going to the pies?

Just made up horseshit. Simple fact is they overcooked their salary cap big time by paying average players superstar money. They had no choice but to move them on to get under the cap. It won't leave much in their cap for next year. They might be able to get someone in the 300-400 range. But that's about it. They aren't saving a million dollars to get a star player.

More deflection, trying to paint a picture that it wasn't incompetent management that caused their problems.

 

[Turbocat]

This is a good attempt at quantifying the fallout. Check out Collingwood!

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So the players we have brought in will play more than the players we have lost in 2021 ?

 

[catempire]

So the players we have brought in will play more than the players we have lost in 2021 ?

It’s a measure of quality.

Player Approximate Value (PAV)

Player Approximate Value, or PAV for short, is the AFL player value system that Cody and Sean developed in 2017 with the assistance of a few colleagues. It distributes value on both team performanc…

www.hpnfooty.com

 

[ibuprofen]

Anyone think Collingwood would do the hail mary and offer Cripps say $2m a year and just blow anyone else out of the water? If that's their plan and they pulled it off, it would be no where near as bad.

 

[ibuprofen]

The player I'd be targeting now is Oscar McDonald

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Oscar Mcdonald

Age

29

Ht

196cm

Wt

100kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

13.2

3star

K

7.9

3star

HB

5.2

4star

M

4.2

4star

T

1.6

4star

MG

191.4

3star

D

11.3

3star

K

7.7

3star

HB

3.7

3star

M

3.7

4star

T

1.7

3star

MG

157.7

3star

D

14.8

4star

K

5.4

2star

HB

9.4

5star

M

4.4

4star

T

0.4

3star

MG

138.4

3star

. Only 24. Fair chance to be a delisted free agent. Not a bad stop gap if we need a big defender. Also mature enough and young enough where (if he works out) he could be a part of the now and part of the future.

 

[Down at K Park]

Anyone think Collingwood would do the hail mary and offer Cripps say $2m a year and just blow anyone else out of the water? If that's their plan and they pulled it off, it would be no where near as bad.

They had to clear out a heap of space just to fit under the cap. No way they have much money to throw at free agents. Might be able to get someone at the 300-400k level, but that's about it.

 

[Turbocat]

The player I'd be targeting now is Oscar McDonald

21

Oscar Mcdonald

Age

29

Ht

196cm

Wt

100kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

13.2

3star

K

7.9

3star

HB

5.2

4star

M

4.2

4star

T

1.6

4star

MG

191.4

3star

D

11.3

3star

K

7.7

3star

HB

3.7

3star

M

3.7

4star

T

1.7

3star

MG

157.7

3star

D

14.8

4star

K

5.4

2star

HB

9.4

5star

M

4.4

4star

T

0.4

3star

MG

138.4

3star

. Only 24. Fair chance to be a delisted free agent. Not a bad stop gap if we need a big defender. Also mature enough and young enough where (if he works out) he could be a part of the now and part of the future.

To me he is the type that might get drafted in mid season if there is a need.

Id be happy to just add a ruck ..even if its our only pick.

 

[CatsDoItBetter]

November 20: List Lodgment #1
November 27: List Lodgment #2


Thinking we won't hear more about Steven for a few days - his spot on the list wasn't really relevant to the events of trade week, but more relevant now that we know list sizes

The club has advised Narkle, Jarvis & Zuthrie that they'd like to retain them but it depends on list sizes - the club will now be looking at things, strongly encouraging Steven to seriously consider his future & if he's 100% committed to football, otherwise the club would probably prefer to use his spot for one of those younger guys

Narkle has to be the first one of those retained. Perhaps any players who come off the list might play with the VFL team. If the AFL insists on bringing down list sizes they should be making some better flexibility on active and inactive players. And building better connections with the teams vfl or equivalent team.
I’m really looking forward to the vfl coming back. I think the expanded comp will be good. And we should have a good team with a mix of young and experienced players.