I really think we have to hold Sav to his contract here. Maybe if we were out of premiership contention we could afford to take the "best interests of the player" approach, but he represents the only back-up we have for a structurally vital piece of our premiership-aspiring jigsaw. If SDK goes down we don't want to be forced to move Blicavs away from the mid/ruck role he's excelling in at the moment.
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Rumour GFC 2022 Player Trading, Drafting FA, Rumours and Wish lists PT2
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My bet is the P7 thing irks him. As if he need P7 to be attached to be worth picking. I just want us to quickly just tidy up the details and get it done
I'd have to be a compelling offer, that being said we'd probably just play short down back with Henry playing taller and back the midfield to protect our defenders.
how compelling?
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Does anyone have an idea where Ethan Phillips might go in the draft?
He’s a mature age key defender (23) been playing vfl for port melb.
I know he was mentioned a couple of weeks ago but not sure where people valued him. He’d be a handy pickup with a later pick, looks good and certainly fills a need.
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I would love to have him drafted to us. Same age as one of my boys and Ethan was a surprise to not have got drafted out of Oakleigh. if we lose Sav and had a late pick he would be good to take. Maybe other clubs also keen?
Something we can use next year over the contingency Sav provides no clue what. I'm not sure if something like a future 2nd attached to a mid tier team would be enough. Recruiters might have their eyes on a few replacements on the cheap.
Hard to value Sav as a defender as he has played very little football.
At present if we traded Sav out we'd have no replacement player in reserve in that position. Assuming we wouldn't reshuffle, then we'd need a replacement. More likely we have multiple options for a reshuffle.
I could buy an argument that he is surplus to needs
Short answer is not really. Can’t remember anybody really been drafted as a winger? Mostly those “types” are elite midfielders in juniors but then some transition to wing at afl level.
what recruiters can do though is look at attributes required (running etc) and make a call as to whether they could be a top line winger.
‘’as you say that role is developing as a critical one.
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There’s a player on our list called Sav… plenty of AFL games have been pumped into him to try and develop him.
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Interesting that Bowes could've been pick 1 in an open draft and could've been AA as a mid at one point.
If he can get back to that level with Danger mentoring him, then we should be right in the mix for the flag next year.
Then add pick 7!
What a trade period we're having! lol.
If he can get back to that level with Danger mentoring him, then we should be right in the mix for the flag next year.
Then add pick 7!
What a trade period we're having! lol.
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Pick 1 and AA?? When was this?
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But he's now a gun defender...
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Check the article below posted by Turbo.
It mentions he could be a potential pick 1 but was a GC academy pick so went at their pick 10. Then also mentions he was in many people's rolling AA squad in mid 2021.
If he walks on the field for us in March next year it will be with 83 game and 25 years of age ... and ready to play in a side that wins. I think he is the type of recruit you normally play R1 picks for.....
Jack Bowes has been left feeling betrayed by a club he has loved deeply and never wanted to leave. This is the inside story on his Suns exit.
Departing Sun Jack Bowes has been left feeling betrayed by a club he has loved deeply and never wanted to leave.
It’s understood Bowes has been left frustrated by a saga he feels the club created and put him on a course to joining Geelong via a trade that will also include the Suns giving away their pick 7.
In return the Cats will take on the $1.6m Bowes is owedover the next two years and give up a future pick.
Bowes signed a five-year extension in 2019.
When Gold Coast figures approached him a couple of years into the deal and asked him to sign an alteration that would significantly reduce his annual earnings in order to back-end the deal, Bowes agreed.
He loves the club.
His parents had moved from Cairns to be on the Gold Coast, with his father Wayne and mother Collette playing a huge role in creating a support network for players and families at the club while Bowes’ grandmother has frequently hosted young draftees in their early years at the Suns.
Bowes believed he would be part of the first Suns side to play in a potential premiership.
He bought a house in Queensland, his partner is from the state and what has unfolded is something he never visualised would happen.
His trust was broken. By doing the right thing by the club in order to help its cause put him in a position where Gold Coast have looked to offload him.
Jack Bowes didn’t want to leave Gold Coast. Picture: Jono Searle/AFL Photos/Getty Images
Bowes was holidaying in Bali when he saw some media reports labelling him a ‘wantaway Sun’. It irked him.
A player who captained the Allies under-18 side was once touted as a potential No. 1 draft pick. He slid to 10 because of his Academy links that gave Gold Coast first crack and was having leadership meetings with Hawthorn great Luke Hodge.
He was seen as captain material. The likes of former Suns assistant Dean Solomon said he had never seen anyone improve as quickly as Bowes did in his second year where he thrived in the midfield, matching up against the likes of Patrick Dangerfield, Patrick Cripps and Marcus Bontempelli.
Injuries saw him shift back to halfback in his third year and Bowes has struggled to claw his way back into an engine room that includes the likes of Touk Miller, David Swallow, Noah Anderson and Matt Rowell.
Those closest to Bowes believe they saw the writing on the wall midway through 2021 when Bowes was named in many rolling All-Australian sides but didn’t feature in the club’s top 10 best and fairest count at the same period.
It meant when the Suns told Bowes they were interested in trading him at this year’s exit meeting he was hurt but prepared.
He was down on confidence but the sheer volume of clubs who have wanted to sign Bowes has rebuilt his self-esteem and confidence in his ability.
Geelong, Hawthorn, Essendon, Adelaide and Brisbane led the charge for his signature and more were banging down the door, with his manager Robbie D’Orazio capping discussions with clubs at five.
Jack Bowes has chosen Geelong as his preferred destination. Picture: AAP Image/Kelly Barnes
The Cats are on the cusp of securing their man but it was Hawthorn, led by coach Sam Mitchell, who gave the most impressive pitch and offered more money in the last two years of a four-year deal.
Adelaide was the most desperate to get him while Brisbane was understood to be incentivised by the draft pick and points on offer.
But Geelong’s interest spans over more than 18 months and came well before the lure of pick 7 while Bowes wasn’t interested in going to a rebuilding club after spending six years at the Suns.
Bowes has obvious links to former Suns skipper Gary Ablett and his relationship with Dangerfield stems back to his time with the Allies under-18 team, with the premiership midfielder driving him back to Melbourne after assisting coach Brenton Sanderson.
Dangerfield has wrapped his arms around Bowes ever since, becoming a confidant for him throughout his career.
Cats coach Chris Scott, Dangerfield and recruitment manager Andrew Mackie were all part of a meeting with Bowes where they pitched a role that would see him used across the every part of the ground, rotating through the middle like many of the players.
Bowes is understood to now be jumping out of his skin to play at Geelong and earn a spot in the team’s best 22
In the right environment, I can't see why not Bowes will be a decent player. Put him in an elite system, he has more upside than a lot of players on our list, especially next gen. I'm all for him being picked tbh, especially with P7.
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No doubt they were keen on him and probably Tanner Bruhn too but we didn’t have a first round pick so realistically they weren’t in the frame to be recruited. On the other hand, Holmes was, and the pick swap with Richmond was devised to secure him at 20 if available.
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Needs to be close enough to a future 2nd. I don't really see how that's gonna to be possible = keep him here
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Bloody AFL if they said yes to the Mega trade we would have pick 36 and Sav would be gone. if Sav wants to go let him
Its a valid point. KPD options might be our weakest spot on list. What id like to know is how he fits into the best22 in 2023. If he doesnt play he is out of contract at the the end of 2023 ..and we are starting again then
If he is realistically just 23-30 .. then I think id trade him. Yes potentially a weaker list ... our height is not great but Id say we cover that anyway...and we find a kid or younger player to keep the list moving and develop. He will go if he is not a key role in 23 ... so one might make the argument we should be adding to our KPP stocks eitherway
Its a role id have tried to add to in the MSD rather than a small fp type which we have plenty of.
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Not to make you feel old but Humphrey B Bear got cancelled before Bailey Humphrey was born.
If we were able to trade Sav and bring in that lad from Port Melb that would possibly be a net win in terms of covering the position of a KPD.
If we had more collateral to deal with Collingwood .... id ask about Charlie Dean .
If we cant get a deal done for Sav for the right pick ... then Id ask about Bryn Teakle..
but both are contracted ... but so is Sav.
How old is he ? The Port guy is not someone I have seen live...and do we have any combine data on him? Id wonder about athleticism. It really si almost a different level of game with different demands. Rookie ..what is there to lose. probably plays VFL mostly.
I have no doubt that the sort of result Allwn did would have turned our head ..we love speed and stamina together. but I doubt we have a pick in his range.
I was thinking Bogart .. so make of that what you will.
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