Rumour GFC 2023 Player Trading, Drafting FA, Rumours and Wish lists Pt II

[cats_09]

Yep, this is making an appearance here also, and probably getting more useful as the season draws to a close and this discussion ramps up

 

[PzBlinky]

Taylor Adams for 33 done.

Swans cleaning up.

Wish we’d do something…. anything?

Nope.

If it's not moving our team forward, we hold the line... and that seems to be what Mackie, Wells, and co. are doing so far.

 

[allrighty]

I doubt Curtain falls to us... But if he did it could be potentially great.

If WC rate him like we have been led to believe they may trade us plenty for that pick to snag him.

Tim Kelly? Or maybe Dom Sheed.

 

[00VicWard001]

What annoys me most about all the NM picks is that they have Clarko as coach who will likely be the recipient of labels like coaching genius, rather than all accepting that he has been gifted a team of high draft picks that we have not seen since days of GWS and GC

The media need to pump out stories. Some days it will be the draft picks, other days it will be Clarko the genius... but... is talent enough to win premierships? No. It takes stable off-field, great coaching and extremely good development.

Let's see how good Clarko really is.

 

[Tristan34]

Straight swap their future first for pick 8, please.

I would want more imo.. We couldn't just assume WCE would finish in the bottom 4...

 

[year of the cat]

I would want more imo.. We couldn't just assume WCE would finish in the bottom 4...

Plus 22.

 

[Tristan34]

I reckon there's already a deal in the works, and I think that's how Reid gets done.

Something along the lines of:

Essendon -

OUT: Picks 9, 30 & Future 1st (8-12ish)
IN: Pick 3 (McKay compo)

North -

OUT: Picks 2 & 3
IN: Picks 1, 22 & 30

West Coast -

OUT: Picks 1 & 22
IN: Picks 2, 9 & Future 1st (8-12ish)

******************

There's just a lot of rumours of Zane already being earmarked to be paired up with Xavier - so they need North's Pick 3 to make that a certainty. If all this happens, Hawks likely pick McKercher or Watson and Dogs pick the other 1 of the 2. That's when Sanders becomes a live possibility.

Lets hope Curtin drops to us and we ask WCE for future 1st.. After 2024 season Reid wants to go home.. We trade them back their future 1st ( which is pick 1) and we get Reid.. Imagine the melts..

 

[Shadow89]

Taylor Adams for 33 done.

Swans cleaning up.

Wish we’d do something…. anything?

It's just not the year to get involved. There's a whole slew of fringe players/veteran players/out of favour players floating around this trade period, and no-one of real note. Only interesting one thus far has been Lachie Schultz.

It's a sh*t trade period, as expected. Next year will get interesting again.

 

[STPer18]

 

[Shadow89]

Zac Fisher

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Zac Fisher

Age

27

Ht

175cm

Wt

76kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

16.2

4star

K

8.3

3star

HB

7.9

5star

M

1.8

2star

T

3.0

5star

MG

384.0

5star

D

17.0

4star

K

10.0

4star

HB

7.0

4star

M

3.0

3star

T

0.0

1star

MG

384.0

5star

D

12.2

3star

K

6.8

3star

HB

5.4

4star

M

1.2

2star

T

3.0

5star

trade done, now Norf have 2, 3, 15, 17 and 18. Suspect their next offer for Reid might be 2, 15, 17 and 18. Who knows though.

 

[year of the cat]

Zac Fisher trade done, now Norf have 2, 3, 15, 17 and 18. Suspect their next offer for Reid might be 2, 15, 17 and 18. Who knows though.

That should be enough surely.

 

[Cursed Cat]

Is North an option for our notional pick 7?

We could secure a number of picks inside 30 then, when you throw in Esava’s pick.

That would fill those list spots we have opened up.

That's what I was thinking when I saw North's recent acquistions.

I'm assuming they'd want to keep at least one of the #2 and #3 selections, but equally I assume the Eagles would be looking for two single-digit selections to part with #1/Harley Reid.

Therefore: #15 + #18 to us for #8.

#2 (or #3 - presumably the Eagles and Roos could collude as to who would select who and it is a moot decision) and #8 to Eagles for #1/Reid.

 

[Cursed Cat]

Tim Kelly? Or maybe Dom Sheed.

Kelly wouldn't want to come back.

 

[Shadow89]

That's what I was thinking when I saw North's recent acquistions.

I'm assuming they'd want to keep at least one of the #2 and #3 selections, but equally I assume the Eagles would be looking for two single-digit selections to part with #1/Harley Reid.

Therefore: #15 + #18 to us for #8.

#2 (or #3 - presumably the Eagles and Roos could collude as to who would select who and it is a moot decision) and #8 to Eagles for #1/Reid.

Can't see us accepting 15 & 18 for 8, tbh. There's a massive premium on the Top 10 of this draft, and I don't think Pick 18 moves the needle enough to get into that bracket, IMO.

 

[year of the cat]

That's what I was thinking when I saw North's recent acquistions.

I'm assuming they'd want to keep at least one of the #2 and #3 selections, but equally I assume the Eagles would be looking for two single-digit selections to part with #1/Harley Reid.

Therefore: #15 + #18 to us for #8.

#2 (or #3 - presumably the Eagles and Roos could collude as to who would select who and it is a moot decision) and #8 to Eagles for #1/Reid.

No chance we accept that deal.

 

[Jhye Clark 13]

No chance we accept that deal.

I'm guessing If we trade the pick it'll be on the night and will involve a F1 as well as dropping back a couple of places.

 

[allrighty]

Kelly wouldn't want to come back.

I know, it wasn't serious. But Sheed, who knows.

 

[Shadow89]

I'm guessing If we trade the pick it'll be on the night.

There is no doubt in my mind that will be the case. We would be kicking ourselves if someone like Sanders slipped to 8 and we'd traded that pick away for 2 players who are much more speculative, prior to the draft. There will be A LOT of clubs vying for that pick on the night, given we essentially stand to acquire the last 'elite' player in that group of 8 in the open pool. Reckon Wilson falls into that too, so it might be Essendon as well, but clubs will definitely be ringing once our pick comes around.

No sense in trading before then, until we can gauge exactly just how valuable that is to others.

 

[year of the cat]

I'm guessing If we trade the pick it'll be on the night and will involve a F1 as well as dropping back a couple of places.

I’d assume so too. I’m thinking there’s a high chance we do trade the pick.

 

[fpm84]

It's just not the year to get involved. There's a whole slew of fringe players/veteran players/out of favour players floating around this trade period, and no-one of real note. Only interesting one thus far has been Lachie Schultz.

It's a sh*t trade period, as expected. Next year will get interesting again.

I reckon any of Dow, Fisher, Duursma, Dylan Stephens would play a role for us in 2024 and all are the right age profile for us to help build our post-Danger core.

Can’t complain too much given how we fared last year but it’s clear the likes of the Pies, Port and Swans will exit the trade period having strengthened their lists. If we want to open up some game time for Knevitt, Dempsey and Conway etc in 2024 that’s fine, but signing Tuohy (and trying to re-sign I Smith) suggests we are expecting to contend again.

 

[year of the cat]

There is no doubt in my mind that will be the case. We would be kicking ourselves if someone like Sanders slipped to 8 and we'd traded that pick away for 2 players who are much more speculative, prior to the draft. There will be A LOT of clubs vying for that pick on the night, given we essentially stand to acquire the last 'elite' player in that group of 8 in the open pool. Reckon Wilson falls into that too, so it might be Essendon as well, but clubs will definitely be ringing once our pick comes around.

No sense in trading before then, until we can gauge exactly just how valuable that is to others.

We are all assuming that Mackie/Wells rate Sanders. We may be totally wrong and they see him as having a low ceiling or at least little potential for substantial improvement. Can you imagine the uproar if we trade out in the night if he is available?!

 

[Hamingja]

That's what I was thinking when I saw North's recent acquistions.

They are just getting rid of all the priority picks before the AFL takes them back. They are the same as GC, pissing them up the wall.

 

[Shadow89]

I reckon any of Dow, Fisher, Duursma, Dylan Stephens would play a role for us in 2024 and all are the right age profile for us to help build our post-Danger core.

Can’t complain too much given how we fared last year but it’s clear the likes of the Pies, Port and Swans will exit the trade period having strengthened their lists. If we want to open up some game time for Knevitt, Dempsey and Conway etc in 2024 that’s fine, but signing Tuohy (and trying to re-sign I Smith) suggests we are expecting to contend again.

Honestly, they're all players that couldn't get games in their own sides, who are now moving to lesser sides to try and get games. I don't see any of them staying in the firsts long, bar maybe Duursma - but even he has a ton of flaws to his game. Fisher at North should do ok too, but they're not anything special.

I mean, it's a case of either (for example):

Dow, Fisher, Duursma and Stephens

or

Knevitt, Dempsey, Jhye and Mullin

Those guys come in, it pushes our guys further down - and I know which I'd prefer in the long run.


Oh, and we always expect to contend

 

[Shadow89]

We are all assuming that Mackie/Wells rate Sanders. We may be totally wrong and they see him as having a low ceiling or at least little potential for substantial improvement. Can you imagine the uproar if we trade out in the night if he is available?!

Yeah it's more of an example of who's available at that pick. They might be extremely keen on Wilson or O'Sullivan, or even Caddy - who knows. As time goes on, I'm growing more and more excited at the prospect of Wilson - as I think he's just as good as the other 8 in the open pool who've been classed as 'elite.'

 

[Kobe Gryant]

We are all assuming that Mackie/Wells rate Sanders. We may be totally wrong and they see him as having a low ceiling or at least little potential for substantial improvement. Can you imagine the uproar if we trade out in the night if he is available?!

Even as a massive Sanders fan, I'd back them in. They would know better than us.

It's smart what we're doing though, either take the elite kid available, or wait for other clubs to get desperate on the night and pay us a fortune to part with the pick.

Players will be rated differently on every club's board, the likes of Stocker being regarded as 6th in the draft at Carlton says it all.

Regardless of who falls to our pick, there will be a club who loves that player and is prepared to pay through the nose to get him.

 

[Kobe Gryant]

Honestly, they're all players that couldn't get games in their own sides, who are now moving to lesser sides to try and get games. I don't see any of them staying in the firsts long, bar maybe Duursma - but even he has a ton of flaws to his game. Fisher at North should do ok too, but they're not anything special.

I mean, it's a case of either (for example):

Dow, Fisher, Duursma and Stephens

or

Knevitt, Dempsey, Jhye and Mullin

Those guys come in, it pushes our guys further down - and I know which I'd prefer in the long run.


Oh, and we always expect to contend

Absolutely.

4 guys who we believe have the potential to be very good to elite, or 4 guys who you already know are bottom 6 players in a good team.

Sure, they might not all work out. Anything's possible after all...but we already know the commodities those other 4 players are, and it's not exactly appealing.