Rumour GFC 2023 Player Trading, Drafting FA, Rumours and Wish lists Pt II

[cats_09]

Yep, this is making an appearance here also, and probably getting more useful as the season draws to a close and this discussion ramps up

 

[FootyLad0]

Is Geelong expected to keep pick 8? Remember there was talk of attempting to get two picks in the top 20.

Yeah i don't believe it, all Mack said was that he was "open to trading it for the right deal"

Meaning someone like Bailey Smith. Don't reckon we'll split it.

 

[Shadow89]

I believe a recent rule change means that they might be able to give us their Fr4... not that it overly appealing.

Oh joy, Pick 60, lmao. Good job AFL

 

[Turbocat]

Is Geelong expected to keep pick 8? Remember there was talk of attempting to get two picks in the top 20.

Pick trading will continue after the trade period...but as yet we have not been offered anything that would be worth us trading it.

 

[Shadow89]

Is Geelong expected to keep pick 8? Remember there was talk of attempting to get two picks in the top 20.

We've apparently already been offered Picks 15 and 18 by Norf, and rejected it - so I don't see us doing anything until draft night. Will have to be a very decent offer to move from outside the elite bracket into it - 10 and 20 for 8 and a Future 3rd was one suggestion.

 

[Turbocat]

Oh joy, Pick 60, lmao. Good job AFL

Unless you have a FSon etc ... almost pointless these days as the draft is done by then.

 

[gogeelongcats]

Soldo deal done for 41 and FR2

Freo is not expected to go well next year.

Looks like they value Soldo more than Sav whom they are willing to pay a king's ransom for. It appears they are trying to be cute.

Fair enough that is the way they want to play in the future.

Lord, here we come next year. Offer $ for him and let them sort it out.

 

[Turbocat]

Freo is not expected to go well next year.

Looks like they value Soldo more than Sav whom they are willing to pay a king's ransom for. It appears they are trying to be cute.

Fair enough that is the way they want to play in the future.

Lord, here we come next year. Offer $ for him and let them sort it out.

I doubt Lord comes to Geelong.

 

[moond0g]

I would let Sav walk.

If we feel we are not being compensated adequately.

If we lose a pick so be it.

If he gets through good luck to them.

Lets put it in our memory bank.

I think that's very short term thinking. Pick 25 and change is much better than nothing, particularly when we have so many list spots to fill over the next 2 years. We'd be the ones who would be the biggest losers from a situation like this.

 

[Jumping Jack]

I would let Sav walk.

If we feel we are not being compensated adequately.

If we lose a pick so be it.

If he gets through good luck to them.

Lets put it in our memory bank.

Do we really want to support a club that becomes known for treating it's players that way? Player is OOC and has requested a move to another club. It cuts both ways and it's all part of the merry go round system that is player trading.

And if players at other clubs see us hold out and force a player to the draft then good luck in retaining the "destination club" title that we currently have.

 

[dazbroncos]

Kroeger also.

I have
Sav
Flynn Kroeger
Mitch Hardie
Ted Clohesy
Oscar Murdoch

As all still OOC.

Yet to see anything from club on them for 2024.

GO Catters

 

[dangerwood]

Is Geelong expected to keep pick 8? Remember there was talk of attempting to get two picks in the top 20.

On behalf of Geelong. I don't know.

 

[BORIS332]

We've apparently already been offered Picks 15 and 18 by Norf, and rejected it - so I don't see us doing anything until draft night. Will have to be a very decent offer to move from outside the elite bracket into it - 10 and 20 for 8 and a Future 3rd was one suggestion.

It was reported in the media (can't remember the journo) that we are keen on Sanders at 8 and if he's gone then we're a real chance to split our pick. So the pick 8 for 15 & 18 might be done on the night.

 

[FootyLad0]

It was reported in the media (can't remember the journo) that we are keen on Sanders at 8 and if he's gone then we're a real chance to split our pick. So the pick 8 for 15 & 18 might be done on the night.

No way Mack and especially Wells haven't scouted more than just Sanders and he's the be-all end-all.
They can easily pivot to someone else and if someone wants to move up they can offer a F1 along with it.

Otherwise no deal, id rather take 8 and use it. Sanders first priority, then other elite talent 2nd. If we really don't like whats available split but ONLY if we are getting a F1 as well.

 

[Shadow89]

Freo is not expected to go well next year.

Looks like they value Soldo more than Sav whom they are willing to pay a king's ransom for. It appears they are trying to be cute.

Fair enough that is the way they want to play in the future.

Lord, here we come next year. Offer $ for him and let them sort it out.

It's likely their own future rather than Freo's?

 

[D BRIDGE]

Do we really want to support a club that becomes known for treating it's players that way? Player in OOC and has requested a move to another club. it cuts both ways and it's all part of the merry go round system that is player trading.

And if players at other clubs see us hold out and force a player to the draft then good luck in retaining the "destination club" title that we currently have.

Port didn't trade Nick Stevens... It hasn't stopped Sav from choosing them.

Or Soldo, JHF, BZT or Sweet.

 

[Turbocat]

I would let Sav walk.

If we feel we are not being compensated adequately.

If we lose a pick so be it.

If he gets through good luck to them.

Lets put it in our memory bank.

Memory Bank sure.

but the rest of it ...its just hurt and pride talking. Understandable but we have to just nod, smile, shake hands and tell them we will see you soon.

Maybe we have fought a losing hand hard ...but one doesnt want be like a punch drunk boxer not knowing when you are done. Port have hand ..we dont ...this time. So sure.. memory bank. Id put a big money offer to Marshall almost immediately as a Free Agent. The have a talk to Josh Sinn and ask if he is happy ... and good luck the next time they draft a Falcon.

We have been here before. From memory (im sure others will correct me if a little off).
It hurt when Sydney ripped Mumford from us and gave P28 ... It allowed us to pick Duncan.
Prismall turned into Motlop who then turned into a FA comp that allowed us to bring back ablett with the pick that gave us Tim Kelly.

The best win we can have is by the time the 25th best available player in the draft comes around... we pick a kid who then goes on and shows all that this draft had more talent that many believed. In the end its at least half your development. We can find someone with P25 that will still be playing when Sav is done.

 

[Turbo911]

If we get anything additional from Port for Sav, I think we should be talking to StKilda for Billings if they pay some of his wage

 

[BORIS332]

No way Mack and especially Wells haven't scouted more than just Sanders and he's the be-all end-all.
They can easily pivot to someone else and if someone wants to move up they can offer a F1 along with it.

Otherwise no deal, id rather take 8 and use it. Sanders first priority, then other elite talent 2nd. If we really don't like whats available split but ONLY if we are getting a F1 as well.

Trading down from pick 8 because Sanders isn't there doesn't mean they haven't scouted other players. It means they think pick 8 is only worth keeping if Sanders is there, otherwise two players in the back end of the first round is better.

 

[BORIS332]

Essendon now holds 9, 31 & 35.
Port has 25 & 50 (will be gone in Soldo trade).

Hopefully that pick 35 the Dons received last night will be used for the BZT/Duursma trade. Port offer us 25 & 35 for Esava, with something going back their way?

Or maybe Port do 25 & Duursma for 31, 35 & Soldo. Then they send us 31 & 35? Pick 31 could end up pretty close to pick 25 on draft night anyway.

Edit - pick 25 will become 29, pick 31 will become 33, and pick 35 will stay at 35.

 

[Johanpetro]

Essendon now holds 9, 31 & 35.
Port has 25 & 50 (will be gone in Soldo trade).

Hopefully that pick 35 the Dons received last night will be used for the BZT/Duursma trade. Port offer us 25 & 35 for Esava, with something going back their way?

Everyone saying pick 25 isn’t enough because it’s actually pick 30 etc and it’s a terrible draft, Why would pick 35 be the cherry on top that makes the deal go through?

 

[FootyLad0]

Everyone saying pick 25 isn’t enough because it’s actually pick 30 etc and it’s a terrible draft, Why would pick 35 be the cherry on top that makes the deal go through?

Could you not theoretically package 25 and 35 to move up on Draft night?
Not sure myself just curious?

 

[BORIS332]

Everyone saying pick 25 isn’t enough because it’s actually pick 30 etc and it’s a terrible draft, Why would pick 35 be the cherry on top that makes the deal go through?

Two picks is better than one.

 

[BORIS332]

Could you not theoretically package 25 and 35 to move up on Draft night?
Not sure myself just curious?

Unlikely we'll be able to move up the order in this draft. But we could trade those out for a future pick/s.

 

[cats_09]

Essendon now holds 9, 31 & 35.
Port has 25 & 50 (will be gone in Soldo trade).

Hopefully that pick 35 the Dons received last night will be used for the BZT/Duursma trade. Port offer us 25 & 35 for Esava, with something going back their way?

Or maybe Port do 25 & Duursma for 31, 35 & Soldo. Then they send us 31 & 35? Pick 31 could end up pretty close to pick 25 on draft night anyway.

Edit - pick 25 will become 29, pick 31 will become 33, and pick 35 will stay at 35.

Twomey has even more picks going back to Richmond

 

[FootyLad0]

Trading down from pick 8 because Sanders isn't there doesn't mean they haven't scouted other players. It means they think pick 8 is only worth keeping if Sanders is there, otherwise two players in the back end of the first round is better.

Ehh maybe...that's a big risk to take. Gotta trust Wells and Mack though, they are masters of scouting.