Rumour GFC 2024 Player Trading, Drafting FA, Rumours and Wish lists Pt 1

[goyoucatters]

If the Dogs keep JUH + English I don’t think they’ll put much of a fight up for Smith if Smith says I’m outta here.

Absolutely. If they manage to keep those two alongside Naughton (all of whom would then be on monster contracts), surely holding on to Smith would be a very unexpected bonus. He's clearly the least important of that quartet to their ongoing chances of contending in coming seasons.

 

[Pure_Ownage]

Tend to agree. Think it’s likely JUH stays but the other two are out the door.

What would we be prepared to pay for Smith? I wouldn’t give any more than a pick between 6-10. If we had a nightmare season and had a top 5 pick I’d prefer to use it on Jagga Smith. Reckon the kid will be a gun.

I do like jagga but i doubt we finish low enough to get him although i thought that about clark too.
If we had a top 6 pick id keep it.
7-12 id trade for smith. If we finish top 8 and the pick is 15 + thats even better.

I think juh will stay smith will go and english is 50/50.

 

[strauchnyy]

JUH is unrealistic

Bailey smith

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would completely change our midfield and should be our no 1 realistic target

 

[CatToTheFuture]

Sure, if he hadn’t done an ACL.

If the Dogs keep JUH + English I don’t think they’ll put much of a fight up for Smith if Smith says I’m outta here.

But we can agree to disagree and it’s all good.

The acl could definitely be an issue but let the club medicos assess it and roll the dice on your best guess

I will say I think his form is heavily influenced by him playing wing where his poor kicking was hanging him out to dry. Don't think that's an issue if he comes here because he wouldn't play wing.

 

[CatToTheFuture]

I do like jagga but i doubt we finish low enough to get him although i thought that about clark too.
If we had a top 6 pick id keep it.
7-12 id trade for smith. If we finish top 8 and the pick is 15 + thats even better.

I think juh will stay smith will go and english is 50/50.

Technically you were correct about finishing low enough to get Clark though

 

[Pure_Ownage]

Technically you were correct about finishing low enough to get Clark though

Thats true and i thank gcs awful list management.

 

[CatToTheFuture]

Thats true and i thank gcs awful list management.

Whilst lightening does strike twice, that opportunity will not

 

[dazbroncos]

Might be a bit of the old cap pressure to push the player you really want out about this

Get Stokesy on the horn to him if he aint already there.

GO Catters

 

[dazbroncos]

I’m not aware of a club closer to Warrnambool.

Anyway, it was an oblique reference to the the Academy shafting we got in his case.

and SHAFTING it was.

Go Catters

 

[Turbocat]

and SHAFTING it was.

Go Catters

I have heard this said before but never heard exact details...like how many years he was in our V dogs system etc. The no qualification of Idun has been more a bug bear for me as he was a Falcon.

 

[dazbroncos]

Im not sold on Smith - the off field stuff and now the ACL.

Happy to be fed this back to eat when he win the Norm in the 26 GF for us... but thats a LONG way off.

GO Catters

 

[dazbroncos]

I have heard this said before but never heard exact details...like how many years he was in our V dogs system etc. The no qualification of Idun has been more a bug bear for me as he was a Falcon.

Stokes was working with him from 15 years old... so about 3 years... and as I understand it ( but I cant find the exact information now) he as eligible in our NGA region but the boundaries were "reassigned" and thus he moved from the Geelong region to the Bulldogs region.... or something along those lines.

Happy to be corrected.

GO Catters

 

[Turbocat]

Stokes was working with him from 15 years old... so about 3 years... and as I understand it ( but I cant find the exact information now) he as eligible in our NGA region but the boundaries were "reassigned" and thus he moved from the Geelong region to the Bulldogs region.... or something along those lines.

Happy to be corrected.

GO Catters

My bet is that sort of thing happened all the time back in zone days. Lines move, players move ... one side of the street was Stkilda and the other Haw. What a difference to a career. Think Breton was like that.

I guess id ask.. is the idea to have the academies as development? If so ..maybe players should all have to come form outside of the RAC/Coates type league

The real bonus for the Dogs was getting him when he was so early in R1... a bit like with Hawkins... the bonus was so substantial , it played a role in changing the rules in the system.

 

[Turbocat]

Im not sold on Smith - the off field stuff and now the ACL.

Happy to be fed this back to eat when he win the Norm in the 26 GF for us... but thats a LONG way off.

GO Catters

I suspect if he says he want us then , despite all the legit issues you mention, we will trade for him. He fits our needs so perfectly on field age, talent etc.

For mine id be happy just to keep adding kids till we have an obvious surplus. North for all their criticism when they dumped their players now seem to be classified as a team with a huge amount of potential. There are a lot of teams brimming, I hope our kids really show they are better than their draft number soon. Max and Dempsey really seem like bargains, just need a few more.

 

[Oisin_the_Goat]

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[D BRIDGE]

The real bonus for the Dogs was getting him when he was so early in R1... a bit like with Hawkins... the bonus was so substantial , it played a role in changing the rules in the system.

Not just early in R1… actually pick 1.

What a gift to have land in your lap.

 

[standupand]

I have heard this said before but never heard exact details...like how many years he was in our V dogs system etc. The no qualification of Idun has been more a bug bear for me as he was a Falcon.

There's some discussion of it and a link to a 'To the Final Bell' episode where Matty Stokes goes into it a bit it here.

 

[CatToTheFuture]

I suspect if he says he want us then , despite all the legit issues you mention, we will trade for him. He fits our needs so perfectly on field age, talent etc.

For mine id be happy just to keep adding kids till we have an obvious surplus. North for all their criticism when they dumped their players now seem to be classified as a team with a huge amount of potential. There are a lot of teams brimming, I hope our kids really show they are better than their draft number soon. Max and Dempsey really seem like bargains, just need a few more.

North delisted their senior players end of 2016. That's an eternity ago with no real development.

 

[D BRIDGE]

I’ve been wanting to bring up the recruitment of Edwards for a couple of days now (just been thinking about it in my head) so maybe now is a good time to do so and some switched on minds here can give their thoughts.

I just wonder why we actually recruited him… as in why and for what particular reason and what do we think it will look like if both Edwards and Conway both look the goods in a few years.

Are they slightly unsure about Conway?

Do we just rate Edwards so highly that we took him with our second selection even though we have a young Conway coming through. He was just too good not to take kinda style.

Do we think Edwards could maybe play key position or be like a hopefully better Mason Cox

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Do we think that one of them should at least make it and have us covered in the ruck for 10+ years.

Did we not love anyone else in the draft and thought we’d get the guys we wanted anyway even if we took Edwards prior… and I mean Mannagh and Stevens… the other late picks we’re probably no danger of not getting to us.

Assuming Stanley retires do we still need to pick up a cheap mature ruck because Edwards won’t be ready next year and we will only have Neale as a backup, but we probably want him at FF next year… There’s not much ruck cover at all if we don’t.

If both Edwards looks the good but can’t get in the team over Conway does it just turn into an English/Jordan Sweet situation where Edwards is good enough to play but can’t get a foot in so he gets traded away on the cheap after we invest a second rounder on him and a few years of development.

I just find it odd that we have taken two young rucks very close to each other with picks that suggest that we really like them as future #1 rucks.

Time will tell, it’ll be years before we get a result either way.

I think maybe I wanted that Cooper Simpson kid Freo took and I felt like grabbing another young ruck was less of a requirement seeing we have Conway.

Hopefully both rucks are very very good… but even if they are, that might not even work unless Edwards can play forward pretty to a decent level.

Just been thinking about it of late as we get excited about all the other kids we took last draft and I’m happy for others to let me know their thoughts.

 

[moond0g]

I’ve been wanting to bring up the recruitment of Edwards for a couple of days now (just been thinking about it in my head) so maybe now is a good time to do so and some switched on minds here can give their thoughts.

I just wonder why we actually recruited him… as in why and for what particular reason and what do we think it will look like if both Edwards and Conway both look the goods in a few years.

Are they slightly unsure about Conway?

Do we just rate Edwards so highly that we took him with our second selection even though we have a young Conway coming through. He was just too good not to take kinda style.

Do we think Edwards could maybe play key position or be like a hopefully better Mason Cox

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Mason Cox

Age

34

Ht

211cm

Wt

110kg

Pos.

F/R

Career

Season

Last 5

D

8.7

2star

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5.2

2star

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3.5

3star

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4.0

4star

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1.6

4star

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1.2

4star

D

6.0

1star

K

3.0

1star

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3.0

2star

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2.3

2star

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0.3

1star

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1.0

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9.0

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5.4

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3.6

3star

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2.6

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2.4

4star

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1.8

5star

.

Do we think that one of them should at least make it and have us covered in the ruck for 10+ years.

Did we not love anyone else in the draft and thought we’d get the guys we wanted anyway even if we took Edwards prior… and I mean Mannagh and Stevens… the other late picks we’re probably no danger of not getting to us.

Assuming Stanley retires do we still need to pick up a cheap mature ruck because Edwards won’t be ready next year and we will only have Neale as a backup, but we probably want him at FF next year… There’s not much ruck cover at all if we don’t.

If both Edwards looks the good but can’t get in the team over Conway does it just turn into an English/Jordan Sweet situation where Edwards is good enough to play but can’t get a foot in so he gets traded away on the cheap after we invest a second rounder on him and a few years of development.

I just find it odd that we have taken two young rucks very close to each other with picks that suggest that we really like them as future #1 rucks.

Time will tell, it’ll be years before we get a result either way.

I think maybe I wanted that Cooper Simpson kid Freo took and I felt like grabbing another young ruck was less of a requirement seeing we have Conway.

Hopefully both rucks are very very good… but even if they are, that might not even work unless Edwards can play forward pretty to a decent level.

Just been thinking about it of late as we get excited about all the other kids we took last draft and I’m happy for others to let me know their thoughts.

I know nothing about Edwards, but I think it’s as simple as not putting all your eggs in one basket.

Conway is unproven and has injury history. It would be bad list management to proceed with Conway as the only ruck on our list outside of Stanley who will potentially retire this year.

 

[The rabbi]

Mitchell Edwards takes a good contested grab and is a reliable kick.
Maybe they see him as a ruck who could also be a forward option.

 

[catempire]

I’ve been wanting to bring up the recruitment of Edwards for a couple of days now (just been thinking about it in my head) so maybe now is a good time to do so and some switched on minds here can give their thoughts.

I just wonder why we actually recruited him… as in why and for what particular reason and what do we think it will look like if both Edwards and Conway both look the goods in a few years.

Are they slightly unsure about Conway?

Do we just rate Edwards so highly that we took him with our second selection even though we have a young Conway coming through. He was just too good not to take kinda style.

Do we think Edwards could maybe play key position or be like a hopefully better Mason Cox.

Do we think that one of them should at least make it and have us covered in the ruck for 10+ years.

Did we not love anyone else in the draft and thought we’d get the guys we wanted anyway even if we took Edwards prior… and I mean Mannagh and Stevens… the other late picks we’re probably no danger of not getting to us.

Assuming Stanley retires do we still need to pick up a cheap mature ruck because Edwards won’t be ready next year and we will only have Neale as a backup, but we probably want him at FF next year… There’s not much ruck cover at all if we don’t.

If both Edwards looks the good but can’t get in the team over Conway does it just turn into an English/Jordan Sweet situation where Edwards is good enough to play but can’t get a foot in so he gets traded away on the cheap after we invest a second rounder on him and a few years of development.

I just find it odd that we have taken two young rucks very close to each other with picks that suggest that we really like them as future #1 rucks.

Time will tell, it’ll be years before we get a result either way.

I think maybe I wanted that Cooper Simpson kid Freo took and I felt like grabbing another young ruck was less of a requirement seeing we have Conway.

Hopefully both rucks are very very good… but even if they are, that might not even work unless Edwards can play forward pretty to a decent level.

Just been thinking about it of late as we get excited about all the other kids we took last draft and I’m happy for others to let me know their thoughts.

Isn’t it just that the two players who have carried our ruck division for the past five years are aged 33 and 32 respectively.

 

[D BRIDGE]

Isn’t it just that the two players who have carried our ruck division for the past five years are aged 33 and 32 respectively.

For sure… but Blitz isn’t even a real ruck.

Edwards is 206cm tap ruckman.

It’s rare clubs play multiple true rucks let alone 206cm rucks.

It’s just not the norm but if they are good enough it could work.

Maybe we are forecasting 5 on the bench in the future and playing 2 true rucks will be more the norm in time.

 

[Mr Meow]

Mitchell Edwards takes a good contested grab and is a reliable kick.
Maybe they see him as a ruck who could also be a forward option.

This is my thinking too.

They will be telling him to work on his forward craft. He will be aware of the Conway situation.

A Conway/Murphy partnership where Murphy is a ruck/forward could work. It seems apparent that Neale is to be kept out of the ruck.

 

[catempire]

For sure… but Blitz isn’t even a real ruck.

Edwards is 206cm tap ruckman.

It’s rare clubs play multiple true rucks let alone 206cm rucks.

It’s just not the norm but if they are good enough it could work.

Maybe we are forecasting 5 on the bench in the future and playing 2 true rucks will be more the norm in time.

Let me go again then…

As promising as Conway is, it would be foolish to put all our eggs in the basket of a guy who has played about 20 quarters of senior footy.