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Must be really tight with CS. Had a crack at just about everything at the club.
Rumour GFC 2024 Player Trading, Drafting FA, Rumours and Wish lists Pt 1
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Must be really tight with CS. Had a crack at just about everything at the club.
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If we win the flag and end up with like pick 22 as our first rounder after academy / FS etc it is probably the right area to take a punt on a player like that
FA for non finalists.... it sounds OK at first but imagine Geelong last year ... one year after a flag ... going and getting a couple of 23 year old FA's just because they have a down year..... the noise then would be like klaxon
www.afl.com.au
Changing the compensation pick system so that selections only come in at the midway point of the draft or at the end of the first round, publicly releasing the compensation formula and adding the year length of deals as a major component of the compensation model are other main considerations put forward by clubs as part of the AFL's competitive balance review.
The League is expected to wrap up its meetings with clubs this week and then be able to move onto informing them about any proposed changes to its bidding system, free agency, trade period, a mid-season player movement window, pick purchasing and the Next Generation Academy.
Battling clubs have always struggled to attract free agents – only three restricted free agents have moved to bottom-six teams since free agency started in 2012 – and so it is understood the idea to give non-finalists a better chance at bringing in talent as free agents if they reach their six-year mark has been suggested as a possible solution.
Currently, free agency eligibility is for players who have played eight seasons or more at a respective club, been previously delisted and are out of contract or if they have previously moved clubs as free agents and retain free agent status for life at the end of every contract.
Bringing it forward to six years would require AFL Players Association buy-in but it is not expected to be a change explored by the AFL with the view from some clubs it could open up integrity issues with better access to more players by finishing outside of the top eight.
For example, under that concept, Hawthorn could chase Bailey Smith as a free agent this year given it is his sixth season at the Bulldogs but Geelong, expected to be a top-four team after its hot start to the year, would have to trade for him.
There have also been clubs who have proposed decreasing the threshold that clubs must spend of their salary cap from 95 to 92.5 per cent and giving them more time to use the 'underspend'. It would thus allow them to build bigger war chests and not have to manipulate contracts to front-end deals to reach the minimum of the 95 per cent spend even while in the bottom end of the ladder.
Clubs have put forward mountains of suggestions as part of the thorough review, with the compensation system one of the focuses. The League has been clear it is investigating whether the duration of deals should be added as a factor within the compensation for clubs losing free agents.
It is also looking at pick purchasing, the concept revealed by AFL.com.au being pushed by clubs to see cashed-up teams buy draft picks off other clubs in exchange for salary cap relief. – Callum Twomey
Rivals watch Saint, free agency switch floated, Hawk's trigger
Check out all the latest trade news from around the League
www.afl.com.au
NON-FINALISTS FREE AGENCY SWITCH FLOATED
ALLOWING non-finalists to have access to players as free agents after six years is among the suggestions clubs have made to the AFL as the League takes feedback on its free agency system.Changing the compensation pick system so that selections only come in at the midway point of the draft or at the end of the first round, publicly releasing the compensation formula and adding the year length of deals as a major component of the compensation model are other main considerations put forward by clubs as part of the AFL's competitive balance review.
The League is expected to wrap up its meetings with clubs this week and then be able to move onto informing them about any proposed changes to its bidding system, free agency, trade period, a mid-season player movement window, pick purchasing and the Next Generation Academy.
Battling clubs have always struggled to attract free agents – only three restricted free agents have moved to bottom-six teams since free agency started in 2012 – and so it is understood the idea to give non-finalists a better chance at bringing in talent as free agents if they reach their six-year mark has been suggested as a possible solution.
Currently, free agency eligibility is for players who have played eight seasons or more at a respective club, been previously delisted and are out of contract or if they have previously moved clubs as free agents and retain free agent status for life at the end of every contract.
Bringing it forward to six years would require AFL Players Association buy-in but it is not expected to be a change explored by the AFL with the view from some clubs it could open up integrity issues with better access to more players by finishing outside of the top eight.
For example, under that concept, Hawthorn could chase Bailey Smith as a free agent this year given it is his sixth season at the Bulldogs but Geelong, expected to be a top-four team after its hot start to the year, would have to trade for him.
There have also been clubs who have proposed decreasing the threshold that clubs must spend of their salary cap from 95 to 92.5 per cent and giving them more time to use the 'underspend'. It would thus allow them to build bigger war chests and not have to manipulate contracts to front-end deals to reach the minimum of the 95 per cent spend even while in the bottom end of the ladder.
Clubs have put forward mountains of suggestions as part of the thorough review, with the compensation system one of the focuses. The League has been clear it is investigating whether the duration of deals should be added as a factor within the compensation for clubs losing free agents.
It is also looking at pick purchasing, the concept revealed by AFL.com.au being pushed by clubs to see cashed-up teams buy draft picks off other clubs in exchange for salary cap relief. – Callum Twomey
FA for non finalists.... it sounds OK at first but imagine Geelong last year ... one year after a flag ... going and getting a couple of 23 year old FA's just because they have a down year..... the noise then would be like klaxon
Rivals watch Saint, free agency switch floated, Hawk's trigger
Check out all the latest trade news from around the League
NON-FINALISTS FREE AGENCY SWITCH FLOATED
ALLOWING non-finalists to have access to players as free agents after six years is among the suggestions clubs have made to the AFL as the League takes feedback on its free agency system.
Changing the compensation pick system so that selections only come in at the midway point of the draft or at the end of the first round, publicly releasing the compensation formula and adding the year length of deals as a major component of the compensation model are other main considerations put forward by clubs as part of the AFL's competitive balance review.
The League is expected to wrap up its meetings with clubs this week and then be able to move onto informing them about any proposed changes to its bidding system, free agency, trade period, a mid-season player movement window, pick purchasing and the Next Generation Academy.
Battling clubs have always struggled to attract free agents – only three restricted free agents have moved to bottom-six teams since free agency started in 2012 – and so it is understood the idea to give non-finalists a better chance at bringing in talent as free agents if they reach their six-year mark has been suggested as a possible solution.
Currently, free agency eligibility is for players who have played eight seasons or more at a respective club, been previously delisted and are out of contract or if they have previously moved clubs as free agents and retain free agent status for life at the end of every contract.
Bringing it forward to six years would require AFL Players Association buy-in but it is not expected to be a change explored by the AFL with the view from some clubs it could open up integrity issues with better access to more players by finishing outside of the top eight.
For example, under that concept, Hawthorn could chase Bailey Smith as a free agent this year given it is his sixth season at the Bulldogs but Geelong, expected to be a top-four team after its hot start to the year, would have to trade for him.
There have also been clubs who have proposed decreasing the threshold that clubs must spend of their salary cap from 95 to 92.5 per cent and giving them more time to use the 'underspend'. It would thus allow them to build bigger war chests and not have to manipulate contracts to front-end deals to reach the minimum of the 95 per cent spend even while in the bottom end of the ladder.
Clubs have put forward mountains of suggestions as part of the thorough review, with the compensation system one of the focuses. The League has been clear it is investigating whether the duration of deals should be added as a factor within the compensation for clubs losing free agents.
It is also looking at pick purchasing, the concept revealed by AFL.com.au being pushed by clubs to see cashed-up teams buy draft picks off other clubs in exchange for salary cap relief. – Callum Twomey
Considering we had to trade for Dangerfield and Cameron, doesn't really change much for us. Are we the only club who's been forced to do that for "free agents"?
Can he just take the year off, take up bowling or something
It would change a bit imo. Depending on the minutia ... is 6 year RFA...or UFA. Imagine Pies miss the finals this year and get someone like Bail Smith as a FA. I am o board with all non contracted players being FA ..as I feel the more numbers will actually help movement and it has a good chance of allowing clubs to bounce quicker... but the otehr side is certain clubs will find it easier to bounce and stay at the top.
we have recruited from basketball, Hurling , irish football ... but have we recruited from bowls?
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Premiership Cat in talks for new deal despite odd management circumstances
Geelong is confident of retaining Tyson Stengle, although rival clubs are circling.
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Just how many player have "odd management circumstances" ...
Is it that different to step away from the big name groups.
Good point. Does give a leg up to non-finalist teams but the risk is as you say. Feels like it's going to happen with us or some other perennial finals team before we see a(nother) change.
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Considering he's not playing at Sandringham, you could suggest he's already is doing so.
Max only played a couple of games himself, but everybody acknowledges that would have changed had the season not been COVID effected.
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Six years lol
Is it over paying in the current climate? Its ridiculous but when LDU has been linked to 13 to 15 M over ten years ..when he is OOC next year ... I have wonder what is over paying. It seems like the desperation of some clubs to bring in talent without falling to get the best picks has put inflationary pressure on FA's.
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6 years? Enjoy that one lads
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You would have to think with the poor list North has had since LDU has been around combined with the cap floor of 95% he would have been getting paid a fair chunk more than he normally would as one of the only decent players for them.
So money may not be a huge factor but who knows.
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Yep you called it, Perkins is next
You'd hope that would be fixed, contracts like that can doom a club
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In fairness McGrath is probably close to there best player so i can see the reasoning.
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If we're playing Essendon, I'd worry much more about what Merrett, 2MP, Martin, Langford, Parish, & Perkins are doing before McGrath.
At a stretch, Durham, Ridley (pending health), & McKay too.
They've got more quality than you're giving them credit for, and McGrath isn't one of them.
McGrath has been, and always will be, a better Jed Bews with the tag of being a number 1 pick.
Free Agency has really been good for the decent guys coming out of contract.
It gives them the upper hand to be able to snag super looooong contracts.
It'll be interesting to see in about 5 years times how the Dons are travelling when about half of their players will be in their 30's and coming out of long contracts at the same time.
If they can't flag up before all those contracts are done and dusted, you'd have to think things won't be great over there.
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Just my TWO BOBS worth.
I think it's time for the AFL... Like the NBA NFL NHL have done.
Limit contracts to a MAX of 5 years.
These 10 years deals muted are a recipe for disaster for both clubs players and in turn the AFL competition.
I think it's time for the AFL... Like the NBA NFL NHL have done.
Limit contracts to a MAX of 5 years.
These 10 years deals muted are a recipe for disaster for both clubs players and in turn the AFL competition.
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Cant tell if you are taking the piss or not but respectfully you have no idea! Fancy comparing him to Bews who plays a completely different position.
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