Rumour GFC 2025 Player Trading, Drafting FA, Rumours and Wish lists Pt 1

[Warhorse]

Yes certainly a better player… but Clark’s recruitment has been a loss so far.

Gore’s recruitment turned out to be a positive.

I could argue purely on playing terms that’s Gore’s zero games for us was more beneficial (on field) for the team than Clark’s 20 or so net negative games.

But if we just wait 3 more years...

 

[geelong_crazy26]

But if we just wait 3 more years...

Philippou would have been a gun get

 

[Jeff76]

No one will ask for Clark as part of a trade, his current value is probably a 3R pick. He will be added to our long list of R1 failures unfortunately.

 

[Mr Meow]

Do Geelong have the assets to trade for TDK? Because if it's not the stupid Saints offer for 1.7mil where we're priced out of it and we don't finish bottom 4 I can't think of a reason we wouldn't match it and force a trade for a player of TDKs value.

Don't forget, you're allowed to use full stops and commas. That second sentence was a mouthful.

 

[CatToTheFuture]

Yes certainly a better player… but Clark’s recruitment has been a loss so far.

Gore’s recruitment turned out to be a positive.

I could argue purely on playing terms that’s Gore’s zero games for us was more beneficial (on field) for the team than Clark’s 20 or so net negative games.

Bit of a Debbie downer. You must have been greatly attached to the future 3rd rounder we gave up to get him

 

[cats_09]

Clark and his family have never been Geelong supporters either, despite being from Queenscliff area. One-eyed Pies. Not that it matters, but many locals we recruit at least have always wanted to play in the hoops.

So, we trade him for one of the Daicos brothers

I could get behind that

 

[Footy Smarts]

The negativity around Clark is hilarious.

Apparently the club with the best recruiting and development record by a mile has been actively pumping games into a slow, weak, lazy, talentless spud.

Yes he's been disappointing. But do we really need to make up nonsense about him?

 

[Pure_Ownage]

I said a few days ago that a Carlton ITK said TDK was choosing between Carlton and Geelong.

Saints weren't even a factor even with the ridiculous offer.
People forget that Tom and Sam are super close and both live in Torquay.

Tom is friends with all of our Cats boys eg. Maxy Holmes, OHenry, Ollie D, Bowesy.
They all hang out together, go on overseas trips together and train together in the offseason.
Surely we are absolutely up to our eyeballs in TDK?

Having TDk is like having an extra mid he's seriously that good.
And you can rotate him forward to rest if you need to kick a goal or take a grab.

I just don't see it mainly because I don't think we would offer him 1.5mil (we have the cap room but culturally I doubt we would) which us what it would take for them not to match. Plus they will only not match if they are bottom 4. Tdk would be ideal but I wouldn't trade multiple r1s for him so I doubt it. If he was unrestricted sure.

 

[Pure_Ownage]

Why would West Coast even entertain Clark as part of a trade?
Right now, he would struggle to get into West Coast's team.

They would want a young stud. Guys like O'Sullivan, Humphries, Dempsey etc.

Neither Clark nor any decent young Victorian is going to agree to leave the state and go to wce of all places so I'm not sure what the heck everyone is on about.

 

[Pure_Ownage]

FWIW
Put a line through him....
JHYE CLARK
I spewed when Humphrey was taken before us then was kinda hoping we traded it for a future 1st.
Never saw anything in his tapes to indicate anything remotely similar to Joel Selwood... and please just someone please SHOOT that bastard that used that term of Joel Selwood characteristics similarities in comparing him to the great man.
After all looking back with the HarryHindSight pants on...the draft in 2022 was like a Ballarat Potato farm.
Full of SPUDS.
Pontiac Chat Sebago Dutch Creams etc etc...
Unfortunately Jack Bowes is the best thing we got outta that draft.
A costly whiff IMO.

Of course it was. If you look at the 2023 draft it's clearly already way better and 2022 is comparatively weak. It's all very well and good for people to say weddle but he had a lot of holes in his game and no one was taking him top 10. Clark needs to be compared to the alternatives. Ginbey is even worse (can't get midfield games in the worst midfield in the comp). The only other option realistically was phillipou and while I wanted him I can see why the club didn't given his attitude issues. There were very few players taken in that range that were better it's just a poor draft pool.

It's unfortunate we didn't trade the pick for a top line player instead but that's not Clark's fault.

 

[Warhorse]

Of course it was. If you look at the 2023 draft it's clearly already way better and 2022 is comparatively weak. It's all very well and good for people to say weddle but he had a lot of holes in his game and no one was taking him top 10. Clark needs to be compared to the alternatives. Ginbey is even worse (can't get midfield games in the worst midfield in the comp). The only other option realistically was phillipou and while I wanted him I can see why the club didn't given his attitude issues. There were very few players taken in that range that were better it's just a poor draft pool.

It's unfortunate we didn't trade the pick for a top line player instead but that's not Clark's fault.

I wanted phillipou even though he has massive D/Head factor.

Can't see how you can argue Gibney is worse than Clark though. Clark has been the biggest disappointment this year out of the players on our list (excluding Bruhn)

 

[Kobe Gryant]

I wanted phillipou even though he has massive D/Head factor.

Can't see how you can argue Gibney is worse than Clark though. Clark has been the biggest disappointment this year out of the players on our list (excluding Bruhn)

Elijah Hewett's got something I reckon, but similar D/H rumours and he was never going to leave WA.

On pure talent, he's in the top 10. Maybe top 5.

 

[Kobe Gryant]

Neither Clark nor any decent young Victorian is going to agree to leave the state and go to wce of all places so I'm not sure what the heck everyone is on about.

It's West Coast. The biggest, most well resourced club in the land. It's not Kazakhstan.

We're talking about the bluntest of streaknives here too. Your Clohesy, Clark, Knevitt types.

If the GFC inform them that their future is limited here (and in the case of bringing in HR in this scenario, it probably is) why wouldn't they consider going?

I'm sure they'd much rather go to Hawthorn or Collingwood too, but beggars can't be chooses.

I mean, a better Victorian footballer in Matt Owies ended up there just last year through a lack of options.

It happens.

 

[standupand]

WC will want picks, single digit ones. That's our challenge. If we're including players in some deal to secure them, it unlikely to be part of a direct trade with the Eagles imo.

 

[Pure_Ownage]

I wanted phillipou even though he has massive D/Head factor.

Can't see how you can argue Gibney is worse than Clark though. Clark has been the biggest disappointment this year out of the players on our list (excluding Bruhn)

Because Reuben is far more physically developed than Clark (afl ready body) and yet can't get games in the worst midfield in the comp and turns the ball over more often than not when he does. At least Clark has the excuse of his body not being ready yet.

I do like philipou but he's not a Geelong type of player with his FIGJAM stuff.

 

[bulletproof]

The negativity around Clark is hilarious.

Apparently the club with the best recruiting and development record by a mile has been actively pumping games into a slow, weak, lazy, talentless spud.

Yes he's been disappointing. But do we really need to make up nonsense about him?

The good thing for Clark is he has a perfect role model in Atkins in the player he can become. Atkins was not even close to an AFL list at Clark’s age.

I think if you ignore where he was taken, which adds a little bit of emotion to watching him play, I can see a path to a good career for him eventually.

But whether he has the drive that Atkins does, I would simply not know.

Clark also probably has to re-assess the type of player he is, he is clearly not the star junior anymore.

He is going to have to fight pretty hard for his AFL career, at Geelong or somewhere else.

 

[Pure_Ownage]

It's West Coast. The biggest, most well resourced club in the land. It's not Kazakhstan.

We're talking about the bluntest of streaknives here too. Your Clohesy, Clark, Knevitt types.

If the GFC inform them that their future is limited here (and in the case of bringing in HR in this scenario, it probably is) why wouldn't they consider going?

I'm sure they'd much rather go to Hawthorn or Collingwood too, but beggars can't be chooses.

I mean, a better Victorian footballer in Matt Owies ended up there just last year through a lack of options.

It happens.

Because even if Clark wanted to go and Geelong wanted to move him Victorian clubs would be having a lot of interest in giving him a go and he would prefer them to wce. They have 5 years left at least in rebuild and no young decent Vic kid will go there if he has other options. He's a 21yo former top 10 pick which counts for a lot.
On the other hand owies was a 27yo cat b fringe player the definition of a guy that has bugger all value. He was lucky a new coach wanted him because no one else did.

The point is if Clark leaves Geelong it most certainly won't be to go to wce.

 

[Pure_Ownage]

The good thing for Clark is he has a perfect role model in Atkins in the player he can become. Atkins was not even close to an AFL list at Clark’s age.

I think if you ignore where he was taken, which adds a little bit of emotion to watching him play, I can see a path to a good career for him eventually.

But whether he has the drive that Atkins does, I would simply not know.

Clark also probably has to re-assess the type of player he is, he is clearly not the star junior anymore.

He is going to have to fight pretty hard for his AFL career, at Geelong or somewhere else.

Fair points. Atkins is a good role for the progression Clark can make. He would need to develop his endurance a heck of a lot though to be able to have the impact atkins does-but he's the right player type that he could realistically become.

 

[Warhorse]

Because Reuben is far more physically developed than Clark (afl ready body) and yet can't get games in the worst midfield in the comp and turns the ball over more often than not when he does. At least Clark has the excuse of his body not being ready yet.

I do like philipou but he's not a Geelong type of player with his FIGJAM stuff.

Just wait 3 more years with Clark right?

 

[D BRIDGE]

I actually think Clohesy is more likely to be the Atkins type than Clark and that’s “if” one of them make it… which is far from a certainty.

Clohesy just seems to have more mongrel about him and seems more of a leader type that players get around.

Clark might be a tad on the introverted side (but just guessing on what I see).

Whether they transfers much into a late blossoming Atkins type career for Clohesy is also something we will need to wait to find out.

 

[Kobe Gryant]

I actually think Clohesy is more likely to be the Atkins type than Clark and that’s “if” one of them make it… which is far from a certainty.

Clohesy just seems to have more mongrel about him and seems more of a leader type that players get around.

Clark might be a tad on the introverted side (but just guessing on what I see).

Whether they transfers much into a late blossoming Atkins type career for Clohesy is also something we will need to wait to find out.

I don't think it's overly important either.

We think it is because of our current position, but if in two years we've got Reid, Holmes, Smith, and Dempsey in the midfield closing in on their peak, it probably won't cross our minds.

Love what Tom Atkins brings and you could never question his endeavour or work ethic, and his type does have a role in most sides.

...But if we've got those four guns at their peak, and we're still sitting here saying "Geez, we reaaallllly needed Ted Clohesy to become the next Tom Atkins" then something has gone seriously wrong.

It shouldn't hold us back.

 

[Interdimensional Bigfoot]

After watching butters more closely he's the one we should take. Seeing him grab JHF and pull him pull back when he tried to walk away from Ken was sign of good character. He's a genuine ball winner we could really use. Reckon Reid sign with the WCE, if they're offering 1.6 for 3 years, no way we'd be offering anywhere close to that.

 

[foxdog50]

With our Ruck situation in Conway. I really wish the Club would give us some kind of indication on where is Conway is at, instead of TBC. Surely by now there is some kind of indication on how his going at training now

 

[foxdog50]

On players salary

Eg TDK.. if let's say Saints are offering him $1.7 million and Geelong are offering $1.3 million.. if your a person who is on over 1 million, how much money do you really need and want rather then play for success?
Its far better on then 99% of us here on our wage and buy most things then we can get

 

[Hamingja]

Anything over 800k is crazy for TDK IMO. Anything not crazy, Carlton match.