Rumour GFC 2025 Player Trading, Drafting FA, Rumours and Wish lists Pt 2

[Lana]

No not really.. its just i think we need a ruckman to help out. As Stanley is 35 and we need a backup as the others are always injured.
Id love the club to give us a time frame on Conway at least. His training so surely they know something

Same as last year really, Boyd was the highest rated Ruckmen not on an AFL list, its a big gap. We can't will a decent prospect into existance just because we want one. The VFL dumping the development league has exacerbated the situation.

 

[foxdog50]

Same as last year really, Boyd was the highest rated Ruckmen not on an AFL list, its a big gap. We can't will a decent prospect into existance just because we want one. The VFL dumping the development league has exacerbated the situation.

Yes that's correct. But for every Boyd there is also a Mannagh. Just because you have 1 bad ruck doesn't mean there all duds.. Just like picking players in the draft.

 

[Mr Meow]

Yes that's correct. But for every Boyd there is also a Mannagh. Just because you have 1 bad ruck doesn't mean there all duds.. Just like picking players in the draft.

For every 70 Boyd's, there is 1 Mannagh.

 

[Lana]

Yes that's correct. But for every Boyd there is also a Mannagh. Just because you have 1 bad ruck doesn't mean there all duds.. Just like picking players in the draft.

Mannagh had to be out there before we picked him, he was talked about years before we grabbed him, it wouldn't have been out of place if someone grabbed him 12 months before we did. In the same way Boyd was talked about as a serious prospect for quite a bit before he got his chance to be on an AFL list.

I don't see a mature prospect with any amount of hype that after viewing makes me think they have AFL like attributes.

While clubs want to fill a specific role in this case a ruckmen, clubs don't draft a "ruckman" in they draft a specific player.

 

[Footy Smarts]

For every 70 Boyd's, there is 1 Mannagh.

And they're going to almost always be flankers and wingers.

The difference in physicality between playing against kids and part time journeymen in the VFL compared to going head to head with Gawn, Xerri, Nankervis, etc is enormous.

Every time someone suggests we should just pick up a state league ruck I remember that a completely cooked Ceglar absolutely dominated VFL in his last year. Realistically even if we find one good enough they'll take 2 years to be physically ready.

 

[Johanpetro]

Bit of Geelong pr0n fan fiction going on in this thread. Don’t know what to think, all seems a bit too far fetched imo.

So far we are a lock to get Reid, Butters, Worpel plus showing interest in Kelly, Oscar Allen

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, TDK, Rowell and Oliver

 

[fpm84]

So far we are a lock to get Reid, Butters, Worpel plus showing interest in Kelly, Oscar Allen, TDK, Rowell and Oliver

Our 2026 side is gonna be stacked.

 

[Turbocat]

Also, I think some of the offers proposed for Reid are about correct.

I think we probably try something like:

2025FR
2026FR + 2026SR
2027FR + 2027SR

Reason being I think we would like to hold this year’s second rounder to play around with NGA bids.

Also, don’t see us getting third rounds back as west coast will argue that could be just sliding back 1-6 picks. Which is a fair shout by them.

As people have said correctly, an offer like this won’t be better at the end of 2026, it will just be more affected negatively by the Tasmanian affected draft.

On paper , some will absolutely slip on the banana about a trade like this but in reality it might be three picks in the 20’s and two in the 40’s.. depends on our finishing position and how many nga/fs/acad type players in the 25,26,27 draft. This year it could be half the draft.

I would wonder if thats enough to move a contracted player. Being able to say 3 r1’s etc would hold some status but does that satisfy West Coast when they have a choice?

One negative . Unless other trades come into play it would tie us up not being able to trade our R1 till 2030. Maybe the clubs see the Tas concessions as a possible way to get back into the draft.

Whats the odds we lose players that also gives us trade/draft collateral. What is Ted Chloseys contract status ..I wonder if other clubs will be looking at him.

 

[Hamingja]

Bit of Geelong pr0n fan fiction going on in this thread. Don’t know what to think, all seems a bit too far fetched imo.

So far we are a lock to get Reid, Butters, Worpel plus showing interest in Kelly, Oscar Allen, TDK, Rowell and Oliver

Beats jerking off over a mystery mid at least

I don't see how it would be possible to prise away Reid or Butters this year or TDK. The first two are contracted and Carlton would match anything we offered TDK. We don't have the trade capital for any of those clubs to agree to a trade when they don't have to.

We should steer well clear of Oliver.

Kelly's family situation hasn't changed.

Wells probably the only guy left at the club from those days but hopefully he can advise them about recruiting crock Eagles key forwards

Leaves Worpel and Rowell as possibles for this year for mine and even that relies on the GC failing to make finals.

 

[CatToTheFuture]

Also didnt his wife take parting shots at Geelong Football Club when they left?

Bit overstated. She basically just said she needed to get home

 

[CatToTheFuture]

Also, I think some of the offers proposed for Reid are about correct.

I think we probably try something like:

2025FR
2026FR + 2026SR
2027FR + 2027SR

Reason being I think we would like to hold this year’s second rounder to play around with NGA bids.

Also, don’t see us getting third rounds back as west coast will argue that could be just sliding back 1-6 picks. Which is a fair shout by them.

As people have said correctly, an offer like this won’t be better at the end of 2026, it will just be more affected negatively by the Tasmanian affected draft.

Don't think we're able to offer a 2027 2nd, just the first

 

[Turbocat]

Don't think we're able to offer a 2027 2nd, just the first

It looks like we will test out the future trade rules. We were the first future trade after that was brought in ...

My bet is we lose a player or two, gain a pick and the criteria will not be an issue. Its more about would West Coast accept that deal?

 

[CatToTheFuture]

Beats jerking off over a mystery mid at least

I don't see how it would be possible to prise away Reid or Butters this year or TDK. The first two are contracted and Carlton would match anything we offered TDK. We don't have the trade capital for any of those clubs to agree to a trade when they don't have to.

We should steer well clear of Oliver.

Kelly's family situation hasn't changed.

Wells probably the only guy left at the club from those days but hopefully he can advise them about recruiting crock Eagles key forwards

Leaves Worpel and Rowell as possibles for this year for mine and even that relies on the GC failing to make finals.

Agree TDK isn't possible, the only reason he's being talked about was the rumour we've been shopping Conway which means there's a ruck somewhere we expect to add. Butters also ain't shifting this year and no one here is suggesting he will. Rowell ain't moving either i wouldn't think. Worpel we may get may not.

Reid is the one. His choice where he goes and if it's us the deal can't get better next year, and his on field impact for one year at a spoon contender isn't with holding on to.

 

[Turbocat]

Mannagh had to be out there before we picked him, he was talked about years before we grabbed him, it wouldn't have been out of place if someone grabbed him 12 months before we did. In the same way Boyd was talked about as a serious prospect for quite a bit before he got his chance to be on an AFL list.

I don't see a mature prospect with any amount of hype that after viewing makes me think they have AFL like attributes.

While clubs want to fill a specific role in this case a ruckmen, clubs don't draft a "ruckman" in they draft a specific player.

We are more likely to draft a 200cm plus endurance athlete than bulky mature VFL ruck imo. Blitz is 34 … id bet they are busy look for other RookieB types.

We have Conway and Pike ..I cant see us adding a typical 2nd level guy.. It would be a waste. CS would never pick him. id concentrate on jumping the pick. I wonder if clubs could go back would they have picked Mannagh or Davidson in the MSD?

Floyd Burmeister would fit type but would not be a pnp guy he will not development time. If we wanted another monster then Ayden McCarroll be worth a look. Whats he like athletically? No idea. But it doesnt solev immediate need. To do that you need a trade form within system imo.

Top prospects, latest whispers in mega mid-year state of play; legend’s son’s tricky choice: Draft Watch

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[Commando]

What did port give north for JHF?
That's around where Reid trade value would start

Drafting interstate players is always a flight risk and clubs know this.

 

[FishGutz]

On paper , some will absolutely slip on the banana about a trade like this but in reality it might be three picks in the 20’s and two in the 40’s.. depends on our finishing position and how many nga/fs/acad type players in the 25,26,27 draft. This year it could be half the draft.

I would wonder if thats enough to move a contracted player. Being able to say 3 r1’s etc would hold some status but does that satisfy West Coast when they have a choice?

One negative . Unless other trades come into play it would tie us up not being able to trade our R1 till 2030. Maybe the clubs see the Tas concessions as a possible way to get back into the draft.

Whats the odds we lose players that also gives us trade/draft collateral. What is Ted Chloseys contract status ..I wonder if other clubs will be looking at him.

Remember how the media sold the Jezza trade. “First ever side to give up three first rounders.” Meanwhile we got two second rounders not far removed from two of the first rounders coming back but they left that out.

So yeah, I agree doing a deal like this would be a good sell for the media and the fans, which helps Eagles stomach it. And if Reid chooses us as others have mentioned spot on, the deal doesn’t get better next year.

This is why I’m so confident in this deal. This is why Twomey opened his spiel about it only mattering where Reid wants to go. Not the picks, not the cash.

Same with Ryan Daniels implications.

And us being in the box seat this early fares very well.

I feel very confident with us making a bold move like this, especially with our track record for late first round picks being patchy at best.

 

[cats_09]

Regarding mid-season draft ruck prospects, Twomey shared this earlier this week in regards to one who reportedly been on the radar




In response to this news, someone suggested Essendon's main target even before Keogh got injured was Ajang Kuol mun - even if that's the case, Mun looks more a long term prospect rather than the mature ruck to step in as an immediate answer
From his 5 games this season, he's been beaten in the ruck 4 times, including against experienced AFL players in Darcy Fort

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& Ned Reeves, plus Essendon's own 19yr old rookie pick from 2023 Vigo Visentini had the better of their match up the other week


While Mun had a good game last match against the Northern Bullants, I'm not sure how much could really be taken out of that game considering how poor the Bullants have been - they were 1 point from their third 100 point loss this season from just 5 games, and sit comfortable last with a percentage of just 35.4

So if Essendon who are seemingly going to be relying on 36yr old Goldstein as their ruck for the foreseeable future, are looking at a 21yr old ruck prospect for support who himself got beaten by a 19yr old already on their list, that gives a fair indication of what's not available in terms of second tier ruck options

 

[standupand]

What did port give north for JHF?
That's around where Reid trade value would start

Drafting interstate players is always a flight risk and clubs know this.

Try making sense of all this:


MEGA DEAL DETAILS

NORTH MELBOURNE
Trade out: Jason Horne-Francis, pick No.1, 2023 third-round pick (tied to Fremantle)
Trade in: Picks No.2, 3, 40, 43, 2023 future first-round pick (tied to Port Adelaide)

PORT ADELAIDE
Trade out: Picks No.8, 43, 53, 57, 2023 first-round pick, 2023 second-round pick, 2023 third-round pick
Trade in: Jason Horne-Francis, Junior Rioli, 2023 second-round pick (tied to Collingwood), 2023 future third-round pick (tied to Fremantle)

WEST COAST
Trade out: Junior Rioli, picks No.2, 40
Trade in: Picks No.8, 12, 2023 second-round pick (tied to Port Adelaide), 2023 third-round pick (tied to Port Adelaide)

GREATER WESTERN SYDNEY
Trade out: Picks No.3, 12, 2023 second-round pick (tied to Collingwood)
Trade in: Pick No.1, 53, 57

 

[cats_09]

What did port give north for JHF?
That's around where Reid trade value would start

Drafting interstate players is always a flight risk and clubs know this.

 

[standupand]

Remember how the media sold the Jezza trade. “First ever side to give up three first rounders.” Meanwhile we got two second rounders not far removed from two of the first rounders coming back but they left that out.

So yeah, I agree doing a deal like this would be a good sell for the media and the fans, which helps Eagles stomach it. And if Reid chooses us as others have mentioned spot on, the deal doesn’t get better next year.

This is why I’m so confident in this deal. This is why Twomey opened his spiel about it only mattering where Reid wants to go. Not the picks, not the cash.

Same with Ryan Daniels implications.

And us being in the box seat this early fares very well.

I feel very confident with us making a bold move like this, especially with our track record for late first round picks being patchy at best.

So Fishgutz - I don't know if you can reveal much about it, but I know the question is pretty much on everyone's lips --

How likely is the Saddam Hussein to Geelong move?

 

[MacStradbroke]

Beats jerking off over a mystery mid at least

I don't see how it would be possible to prise away Reid or Butters this year or TDK. The first two are contracted and Carlton would match anything we offered TDK. We don't have the trade capital for any of those clubs to agree to a trade when they don't have to.

We should steer well clear of Oliver.

Kelly's family situation hasn't changed.

Wells probably the only guy left at the club from those days but hopefully he can advise them about recruiting crock Eagles key forwards

Leaves Worpel and Rowell as possibles for this year for mine and even that relies on the GC failing to make finals.

The Kelly family situation has most certainly changed, they’re loaded now!

 

[iameviljez]

Wells probably the only guy left at the club from those days but hopefully he can advise them about recruiting crock Eagles key forwards

... is this a Mitchell White joke?

 

[Jumping Jack]

So Fishgutz - I don't know if you can reveal much about it, but I know the question is pretty much on everyone's lips --

How likely is the Saddam Hussein to Geelong move?

He'd actually be a handy addition to our list.

Deadly by foot
Has a few weapons (of mass destruction)
And I reckon he'd "terrorise" a few opposition defenses.

 

[iameviljez]

Yes that's correct. But for every Boyd there is also a Mannagh. Just because you have 1 bad ruck doesn't mean there all duds.. Just like picking players in the draft.

Yeah, but Mannagh wasn't just the best ruckman in the VFL, he was arguably the best player in the VFL, and came off a frankly incredible performance in the GF.

I can't think of many mature-aged ruckmen who have elevated out of the state leagues and done really well. Meanwhile, Fort, Abbott, Stephenson...

 

[iameviljez]

He'd actually be a handy addition to our list.

Deadly by foot
Has a few weapons (of mass destruction)
And I reckon he'd "terrorise" a few opposition defenses.

Nah. Goes missing too often.