Group F Thread

[Dagger5]

Cool deflect bro.

What is a dis?

Its cheese.

 

[r dub 19]

What is a dis?

Its cheese.

Keep it coming, it's so funny.

 

[r dub 19]

If Gervinho has a poor game then he is overrated and a spud.

LOL, at least my boy puts in a performance

 

[belfast_bomber]

Any chance we can get the last three pages of this thread deleted?

 

[r dub 19]

Any chance we can get the last three pages of this thread deleted?

Nah it's on point.

 

[ErnieSigley]

I'm not saying that - your original point was that because Italy won it in 06, they have nothing to fear of Spain, which is absurd considering that core you mention (without Toni, Del Piero, Totti...) is now old, past it, or out of form.

No my point is that they will certainly take something out the last world cup. Not nothing like you said.

Just like you said that because Spain has a tradition of choking, they're expected to do it again. Nothing points in that direction.

My point here is Spain can't have the same confidence that they can do it again cos they have never done it. If you think that it doesn't matter then why does it seem the same sides win it every 4 years (basically Brazil, Italy, Germany & Argentina) with only France & England bucking the trend?

counting on them to choke only 2 years after an almost identical squad has won the euro (and has beaten most big countries in friendlies along the way) is a bit strange.

And my point here is the Euro Cup isn't the World Cup.

 

[Kompany]

No my point is that they will certainly take something out the last world cup. Not nothing like you said.

You're quoting me just telling you I didn't say that. Move on please. I'm sure there is a mental and inspirational advantage, but I think you're overestimating the importance of it.

My point here is Spain can't have the same confidence that they can do it again cos they have never done it. If you think that it doesn't matter then why does it seem the same sides win it every 4 years (basically Brazil, Italy, Germany & Argentina) with only France & England bucking the trend?

So you think Spain went into the euro 2 years ago with the idea "hey guys, "we" did it in '64, so we can definitely do it again!"? There's absolutely no connection.

Those sides you name have just historically been amongst the stronger sides. Brazil's always there, but Germany has had lesser periods, while Argentina has not made it to a semi final in 20 years time - hardly big 4 material, hey?

Besides that France have been about Europe's best team in the last decade and a half (or at least as long as Zidane was around), very much unlike what they'd been in the past. I wouldn't really call that "bucking the trend".

And my point here is the Euro Cup isn't the World Cup.

Don't pretend as if there's a miraculous world of difference. Recent history has shown that apart from Brazil and Argentina, many WC's look suspiciously like EC's.

If Spain was good enough to win the euro, they're without a doubt good enough to win the WC. They'll possibly get stronger opposition from Germany, Italy and England than they will from Argentina or any other non-European side other than Brazil.

 

[that_dood]

Any chance we can get the last three pages of this thread deleted?

+1

Get a f**ken room.

 

[ErnieSigley]

So you think Spain went into the euro 2 years ago with the idea "hey guys, "we" did it in '64, so we can definitely do it again!"? There's absolutely no connection.

No connection cos one has a 44 years difference compared to one 4 years ago.

Besides that France have been about Europe's best team in the last decade and a half (or at least as long as Zidane was around), very much unlike what they'd been in the past. I wouldn't really call that "bucking the trend".

France only won a WC cos it was at home, same with England. Yes bucking the trend still.

Don't pretend as if there's a miraculous world of difference. Recent history has shown that apart from Brazil and Argentina, many WC's look suspiciously like EC's.

Yes so similar. Please remind me how many of these Euro winning country have won a WC. Greece, Denmark, Netherlands, Czechslovokia, Soviet Union and Spain. Italy's one and only win was in 68 and England has never won a Euro.

If Spain was good enough to win the euro, they're without a doubt good enough to win the WC.

Again using that logic Greece should have been right up there last WC.
No doubt Spain are very good but winning the last euro means less than winning the last WC, in terms of chances at this WC.

 

[Bourky23]

No doubt Spain are very good but winning the last euro means less than winning the last WC, in terms of chances at this WC.

You idiot..

 

[ErnieSigley]

You idiot..

Excuse but Whats wrong with what I wrote?
I might have worded it badly, teams that have won the WC in past are more likely to win it again. Recent WC history is more significant than recent Euro history in winning this tournament.
You're the idiot if you believe otherwise.

 

[DB10]

Excuse but Whats wrong with what I wrote?
I might have worded it badly, teams that have won the WC in past are more likely to win it again. Recent WC history is more significant than recent Euro history in winning this tournament.
You're the idiot if you believe otherwise.

because no team has won it twice in a row since 1962?

what happened four years ago doesn't mean dick. completely different teams to then, most of that Italian team isn't even at this World Cup. not to mention the recent trend of defending champions stinking it up at World Cup's.

Spain are a rightful favourite for the World Cup.

 

[that_dood]

Excuse but Whats wrong with what I wrote?
I might have worded it badly, teams that have won the WC in past are more likely to win it again. Recent WC history is more significant than recent Euro history in winning this tournament.
You're the idiot if you believe otherwise.

Keep diggin' that hole Ernie...

P.S. Give up while your behind.

 

[ErnieSigley]

Keep diggin' that hole Ernie...

P.S. Give up while your behind.

What are you talking about? Spain is favourite cos there a good side but winning Euro means very little in this tournament. Winning the last WC is more significant.

If you are talking about mistakes, you the guy that said the WC is no place to try new players out.

 

[DB10]

but it's funny.

 

[ErnieSigley]

because no team has won it twice in a row since 1962?

what happened four years ago doesn't mean dick. completely different teams to then, most of that Italian team isn't even at this World Cup. not to mention the recent trend of defending champions stinking it up at World Cup's.

Spain are a rightful favourite for the World Cup.

Not my point.
If winning 4 years back means dick then winning the last Euro means even less.

 

[DB10]

you don't even know what your point is.

 

[Bourky23]

I can't wait to bump this when Spain win and Italy get knocked out in the round of 16.

 

[Dagger5]

This thread is good.

 

[ErnieSigley]

Go back to my original post then about Italy trying to avoid Spain.

 

[DB10]

I can't wait to bump this when Spain win and Italy get knocked out by New Zealand in the group stage.

efa.

 

[belfast_bomber]

I like the way you think Deebs.

 

[ErnieSigley]

I can't wait to bump this when Spain win and Italy get knocked out in the round of 16.

Good for you.
Never said Italy would win it, just they have nothing to fear. By all rights Spain should be biger favourites than Italy.
What if Spain will choke again?
I'll eat my words if and when Spain win it.

 

[that_dood]

What are you talking about? Spain is favourite cos there a good side but winning Euro means very little in this tournament. Winning the last WC is more significant.

That doesn't make sense.

If you are talking about mistakes, you the guy that said the WC is no place to try new players out.

I don't know what your on about here either. Which player has proved me wrong? Which player did I say shouldn't be there?

P.S. Learn how to write Ernie. You're never going to get your point across when no one understands your posts.

 

[Bourky23]

Good for you.
Never said Italy would win it, just they have nothing to fear. By all rights Spain should be biger favourites than Italy.
What if Spain will choke again?
I'll eat my words if and when Spain win it.

Nobody is arguing that mate, all we're arguing is your point that winning the World Cup FOUR years ago is relevant now..

it's not.