NO TROLLS Hawthorn Racism Review - Sensitive issues discussed. Part 2

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[TheTrufHirts]

This is just going to get messier and messier. The AFL were never going to do anything about it and that’s fair enough. Hopefully this all gets sorted out without the Hawks having to be dragged through the courts, someone will end up in jail if it goes through the court system.

You been watching too much of the project if you think anyone is going to prison.

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[The Nostradamus]

got my popcorn! Whaddi miss ?!

essentially no further actions or adverse findings to the defendants
hawks could be penalised

now we see what clarko wants to do

 

[TheTrufHirts]

HRC powers at best will allow them to hit someone with a wet lettuce.

LOL

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[Drought Break]

I have said all along that justice and fairness is all I want

That’s all everyone wanted. Including the 3 accused.

 

[SSSSSS]

This will get sorted out in the courts. Will be the best thing for all sides and at least someone will find their justice.

 

[Devington]

HRC powers at best will allow them to hit someone with a wet lettuce.

LOL

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It's not about the punishment from them, it's about the finding.

 

[mr bagcroft]

essentially no further actions to the defendants
hawks could be penalised

ok so they may penalise the Hawks, but...nobutti did nuttin.
Cool.
Sounds legit From the Australian Fence sitting League.

 

[Devington]

got my popcorn! Whaddi miss ?!

The AFL will not be a party to anything further. That's everything. Every other party is more than welcome to take anyone other than the AFL to court or the HRC.

 

[SSSSSS]

ok so they may penalise the Hawks, but...nobutti did nuttin.
Cool.
Sounds legit From the Australian Fence sitting League.

Remember the Dee's got punished for 'not tanking'...

 

[sr36]

This is the expected outcome that many Aboriginal people expected from a body like the AFL. It has happened for 200 years where bodies controlled by power and greed have swept Aboriginal issues under the table. Today we are fortunate, that bodies such as the Human Rights Commission are there to ensure justice. What the AFL don't realise is that the media storm that will erupt as a result of the HRC will bring more heat on their brand than if they had dealt with it in the first place. Human Rights can make some powerful statements. These lawyers would not be advising full steam ahead to HRC without believing they will be successful.

Yep. If "human right's abuse" is about as ugly a phrase as there is.

 

[King Elvis]

I believe 6 families are on a pathway to Human Rights supported by their legal teams.

Ok, so not a fait accompli, and probably significant hurdles to clear, to get to such a point.

 

[Jibroni]

This is the expected outcome that many Aboriginal people expected from a body like the AFL. It has happened for 200 years where bodies controlled by power and greed have swept Aboriginal issues under the table. Today we are fortunate, that bodies such as the Human Rights Commission are there to ensure justice. What the AFL don't realise is that the media storm that will erupt as a result of the HRC will bring more heat on their brand than if they had dealt with it in the first place. Human Rights can make some powerful statements. These lawyers would not be advising full steam ahead to HRC without believing they will be successful.

The only ones who are looking at the colour of skin are the ones doing the accusing. Three good men have been accused of horrible things and the accusers have still not been named, it seems to be a case of "victim mentality" of these accusers.

If you want to accuse people in a public space then you should have the courage of your convictions and not throw accusations from their dark corners of anonymity. On face value these accusers and the Hawthorn Football Club have a lot to answer for.

 

[Kanga Commando]

This is just going to get messier and messier. The AFL were never going to do anything about it and that’s fair enough. Hopefully this all gets sorted out without the Hawks having to be dragged through the courts, someone will end up in jail if it goes through the court system.

Did you study legal studies from ”play school” ?

 

[sr36]

The AFL will not be a party to anything further. That's everything. Every other party is more than welcome to take anyone other than the AFL to court or the HRC.

Have all claimants done this deal with the AFL. Or is it only those who participated in the inquiry. The two dodgiest stories from Jackson's article weren't part of the inquiry.

 

[westhawk]

got my popcorn! Whaddi miss ?!

Absolutely nothing, just gutless Gil trying to weasel out of everything

 

[Hollow Knight]

Hawthorn is in big trouble.

 

[Sentinel]

 

[Linda Lovelace]

And what if the human rights commission rules there is no case to answer ? Will that be accepted by you?

It's weird how people think this is some sort of pre-emptive 'gotcha'.

You would have to be a moron to trust the AFL to harm its own interests. It doesn't follow these same non-morons will just disregard the findings of an actual investigation.

 

[Dawn33]

From Robbo tonight. I have heard the same from other sources.


'The four families are almost certain to join the two other families in pursuing a hearing in the Human Rights Commission.

That will involve compulsory mediation between the families and Clarkson, Fagan and Burt, who have all denied any wrongdoing.

And if conciliation can’t be reached a hearing will be held in the Federal Court.'

From Robbo tonight. I have heard the same from other sources.


'The four families are almost certain to join the two other families in pursuing a hearing in the Human Rights Commission.

That will involve compulsory mediation between the families and Clarkson, Fagan and Burt, who have all denied any wrongdoing.

And if conciliation can’t be reached a hearing will be held in the Federal Court.'

Suggest you go this link to read how the Human Rights Commission manages complaints.

Information for people making complaints

Learn how federal anti-discrimination law allows people to make complaints to the Commission about unlawful sex, race, disability and age discrimination.

humanrights.gov.au

 

[TheTrufHirts]

Did you read Burt's account? Clarko rocking up to the house to help the break up happen did occur.

I once told my sister she should consider divorcing her husband if she couldn't cope any longer with the relationship.

How on earth is that considered a racist remark?




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[Fitzey]

Did you study legal studies from ”play school” ?

Have you not seen the way the court system runs these days? It’s a bigger joke than the AFL MRO. Trust me, no one should want this to go to the courts.

 

[r_boy]

This is the expected outcome that many Aboriginal people expected from a body like the AFL. It has happened for 200 years where bodies controlled by power and greed have swept Aboriginal issues under the table. Today we are fortunate, that bodies such as the Human Rights Commission are there to ensure justice. What the AFL don't realise is that the media storm that will erupt as a result of the HRC will bring more heat on their brand than if they had dealt with it in the first place. Human Rights can make some powerful statements. These lawyers would not be advising full steam ahead to HRC without believing they will be successful.

Geez you are seriously offended tonight aren't you.

If you say Human Rights Commission enough they might come over the top like WADA

 

[Hollow Knight]

Fages happy for all documentation to be released. Must feel pretty vindicated.

 

[South of the Yarra]

Geez you are seriously offended tonight aren't you.

If you say Human Rights Commission enough they might come over the top like WADA

Human Rights Commission

 

[Bjo187]

Clarko being mates with gill paid off big time for him on this occasion.