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POKsPies252 said:
What would u guys want for Hendo? Realistically I think we'd only offer up pick 27
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Dont think 27 will get it done. Maybe if you threw in 45 (or at least swapped our 60 for your 45) it could get done but only if we knew we could use that pick to advance another trade we were keen on.

This is a guy under contract and if traded it is agreed to be under compassionate grounds.

He will have 2 choices- stay here or go to whatever club offers us most in return.

Personally if 27 was the best on offer I'd say sorry Hendo but we couldnt get a deal done (assuming he is in fact happy to stay if we cant get a deal done. If he really wants out and we see this issue affecting his footy enough then we would take it if its the best offer).

Low 20s is what we should be shooting for.
 
cmndstab said:
That's not really what has happened though. Tippett is a huge net loss, but that's our own fault - we could have traded him for something worthwhile. We just didn't.

Losing Davis and Gunston (plus one first round pick) has seen us net Crouch, Brown, Kerridge, Jenkins and Grigg. Overall that's a pretty good result.

The loss of players outside the best 22 in Maric and Armstrong saw us bringing in Lynch and Johnston - at least one of which is likely to end up in the best 22.

I agree that Bock for Tambling hurts, but fortunately Talia has been a more than adequate replacement.

It sucks to lose players, but that hasn't been the reason we weren't premiership contenders this year. We've actually handled that side of things pretty well. It has been the stagnation in our mid-career players that has hurt us the most.
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I agree with that completely and not so much blaming the loss of players on our premierships, its just more about keeping these players to make repeated final runs and stay a dominant side for a prolonged amount of time. Thank god that Crows had drafted wisely to cover these losses and hiccups in the road. Its just frustrating that we have to rely on our knack of drafting good youngsters to cover these losses and in some respects we have been a tad lucky that our youngsters havent copped some serious injuries and stalled in development.

We struggle to bring the big names in (barring Betts) and constantly loosing our talented players and replacing them with picks does get frustrating as a supporter sometimes. Id very much prefer to keep the group together :p
 
The Sloane Ranger said:
If Hendo's family matters are serious then im happy for the club to explore all the options privately

For those who don't know Ricky he is a very genuine bloke, he is a extremely private bloke, does love the club however has family matters which in an ideal world he feels that he should be closer to home base

With this in mind he understands the lay of the land, understands that he is contracted and what the club has done for him so if the crows can get appropriate compensation he will put family before club and leave the club that he loves to support him Mum

I can understand that
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I understand that and am all for Hendo putting family before footy.

Port moved heaven and earth to keep Boak at the club by all reports and I wouldnt mind the crows taking some steps to do something similar without the use of illegal contracts ;)
 
arusso707 said:
I understand that and am all for Hendo putting family before footy.

Port moved heaven and earth to keep Boak at the club by all reports and I wouldnt mind the crows taking some steps to do something similar without the use of illegal contracts ;)
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As much as Henderson would be a plus for us I hope he sorts out his family stuff which I didn't realise was happening.
Surely it makes sense for him to stay at AFC rather than having to prove himself at a new club while trying to sort out his family stuff.
I'm sure AFC could accommodate him on this eg letting him stay in Melbourne after matches etc. It'll disrupt his preparation but if he's distracted by off-field stuff his preparation is compromised anyway.

Good luck to him but he clearly loves AFC and hope he works out a way of staying there
 
I think pick 27 is all that'll be tabled, so it'll either be yes or no to that. Can't see us trading pick 27 + a best 22 player... that would be overs. And I can't see us trading a best 22 player as a straight swap. So it just may not happen.
 
Nicco_jj said:
I think pick 27 is all that'll be tabled, so it'll either be yes or no to that. Can't see us trading pick 27 + a best 22 player... that would be overs. And I can't see us trading a best 22 player as a straight swap. So it just may not happen.
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All speculation but that would be a no to 27 alone
 
Nicco_jj said:
I think pick 27 is all that'll be tabled, so it'll either be yes or no to that. Can't see us trading pick 27 + a best 22 player... that would be overs. And I can't see us trading a best 22 player as a straight swap. So it just may not happen.
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How about pick 27 and Kyle Martin?
 

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It will come down to just how bad you want to re-enter the earlier rounds of the draft and how intent you are on securing Polec.

Pick 27 would seem more than fair compo for Henderson which is a 2nd round draft choice and many neutrals would agree he isn't worth more despite how he is rated internally by Crows.

As it stands, you guys don't have great currency to facilitate a trade for Polec in comparison to Port and you are on public record as saying you are very keen to re-enter the early rounds of the draft so you aren't starting your picks from a long way back.

Henderson may become the sacrificial lamb that enables you to achieve both desired outcomes.

Plus with guys like Brodie Smith, Jaensch, Crouch, Luke Brown, Otten, Shaw etc the coaching/recruiting staff may believe you have surplus player who can step in and cover Henderson's absence whilst enabling you to achieve your desired outcomes of Polec and earlier entry back into the draft.
 
dalethomas13 said:
It will come down to just how bad you want to re-enter the earlier rounds of the draft and how intent you are on securing Polec.

Pick 27 would seem more than fair compo for Henderson which is a 2nd round draft choice and many neutrals would agree he isn't worth more despite how he is rated internally by Crows.

As it stands, you guys don't have great currency to facilitate a trade for Polec in comparison to Port and you are on public record as saying you are very keen to re-enter the early rounds of the draft so you aren't starting your picks from a long way back.

Henderson may become the sacrificial lamb that enables you to achieve both desired outcomes.

Plus with guys like Brodie Smith, Jaensch, Crouch, Luke Brown, Otten, Shaw etc the coaching/recruiting staff may believe you have surplus player who can step in and cover Henderson's absence whilst enabling you to achieve your desired outcomes of Polec and earlier entry back into the draft.
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Please don't mention Jaensch in the same sentence as the other guys!! :(
 
dalethomas13 said:
It will come down to just how bad you want to re-enter the earlier rounds of the draft and how intent you are on securing Polec.

Pick 27 would seem more than fair compo for Henderson which is a 2nd round draft choice and many neutrals would agree he isn't worth more despite how he is rated internally by Crows.

As it stands, you guys don't have great currency to facilitate a trade for Polec in comparison to Port and you are on public record as saying you are very keen to re-enter the early rounds of the draft so you aren't starting your picks from a long way back.

Henderson may become the sacrificial lamb that enables you to achieve both desired outcomes.

Plus with guys like Brodie Smith, Jaensch, Crouch, Luke Brown, Otten, Shaw etc the coaching/recruiting staff may believe you have surplus player who can step in and cover Henderson's absence whilst enabling you to achieve your desired outcomes of Polec and earlier entry back into the draft.
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Pick 27 won't get the deal done.

He is contracted for 2 more years, he has agreed to stay if we can not get a satisfactory deal (meaning it won't be a fire sale and sell at any cost) and if we don't get the deal we want, Polec will end up at Port and we are fine with that.

We don't need to sell him - your club us buying him, so you will need to increase your offer or a deal won't happen and by all accounts, your club are very keen. Meaning, we won't be selling Henderson at any cost. Hope you can understand that.
 

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alex_is_on_fire said:
Pick 27 won't get the deal done.

He is contracted for 2 more years, he has agreed to stay if we can not get a satisfactory deal (meaning it won't be a fire sale and sell at any cost) and if we don't get the desk we want, Polec will end up at Port and we are fine with that.

We don't need to sell him - your club us buying him, so you will need to increase your offer or a deal won't happen and by all accounts, your club are very keen. Meaning, we won't be selling Henderson at any cost. Hope you can understand that.
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It probably won't get the job done... but it is a fair trade.
 
alex_is_on_fire said:
Pick 27 won't get the deal done.

He is contracted for 2 more years, he has agreed to stay if we can not get a satisfactory deal (meaning it won't be a fire sale and sell at any cost) and if we don't get the desk we want, Polec will end up at Port and we are fine with that.

We don't need to sell him - your club us buying him, so you will need to increase your offer or a deal won't happen and by all accounts, your club are very keen. Meaning, we won't be selling Henderson at any cost. Hope you can understand that.
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All I know is Crows hierarchy are on public record saying they want to re-enter the earlier rounds of the draft and are very keen on Polec. "By all accounts" is speculation, whereas Crows are publicly strong in their interests to land Polec.

Whether you end up caring enough or not for landing him is up to you guys.

You don't have to trade Henderson, of course not. However, you objectives of landing Polec and re-entering the earlier rounds of the draft are quite difficult to achieve in your current predicament.

We will find out whether or not you guys are actually keen enough to complete those desired objectives.


Pick 27+ steak knives IMO, is more than fair value for Henderson. He is not worth a first round draft choice.
 
dalethomas13 said:
That's not for me or you to decide that.

I'm just dealing in what we know to this point in time. I'm not going to lose any sleep over it.

It is what it is.
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Let's see what the outcome is in 13 days time.

I don't imagine many clubs get players in for a medical if they are not keen.
 
TradeDraft said:
That is what is being Rumored
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Apologies for being repetitive of other posters but why would the Pies re-rookie him if they intend to trade him? Would it become a case of Martin being 'theirs' to trade as opposed to him being out of contract and so Coll would be then trying to trade a player who might suddenly choose to nominate for the draft or something?
 

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