If you could choose where in Australia to live based on COVID response, where would it be?

If you could wake up tomorrow in any state or territory, which would it be?

  • ACT

    Votes: 2 3.0%
  • NSW

    Votes: 7 10.6%
  • NT

    Votes: 1 1.5%
  • QLD

    Votes: 7 10.6%
  • SA

    Votes: 7 10.6%
  • TAS

    Votes: 11 16.7%
  • VIC

    Votes: 4 6.1%
  • WA

    Votes: 27 40.9%

  • Total voters
    66

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Seeds

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Just sos you know - if macgowan built a hospital right now in a mining boom, he would pay a heap more as hed have to compete with the mines and everyone else for workers - and hed drive the price up for everyone.


Wa is different to other states as everything is cyclic - in good times governments job is to run a surplus and stash cash.

Then when the inevitable crash of iron ore prices comes, we build heaps of infrastructure to keep the workers let go by the mines working and stimulate the economy which would otherwise be moribund. This keeps the skilled labour pool from leaving the state and ready for the next boom.

See in nsw and victoria thats the federal governments job - if theres a potential recession - the feds kick in and stimulate and get things going - we dont get that sort of consideration.
Someone doesnt know there is an effing pandemic going on that causes billion dollar lockdowns.
 

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Well it does in states that dont do circuit breaker lockdowns because this weeks profit >>> the next six months profits
And it will in wa too when you open up without adequate hospital cover.

im sure you will be loving the couple of million you saved on delaying infrastructure spending when you have months long lockdowns cos you didnt have adequate hospital cover.
 

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And it will in wa too when you open up without adequate hospital cover.

im sure you will be loving the couple of million you saved on delaying infrastructure spending when you have months long lockdowns cos you didnt have adequate hospital cover.
Exactly how long do you think it will take to build a hospital?

Looking at fiona stanley:


Planning started in 2004, construction started in 2008 and was completed in 2014


10 years.


Announced september 2021:

<<<
Massive funding boost for health in State Budget

Thursday, 9 September 2021

McGowan Government commits to significant investment in health and mental health hospital services and initiatives
$3.1 billion allocation to expand WA's health system, with $1.3 billion towards improving health infrastructure, major hospital redevelopments and expansions underway across metropolitan and regional WA
$1.8 billion dedicated to plan and construct a new Women and Babies Hospital
$960 million WA Health budget and $487 million for COVID-19 response and preparedness, including hotel quarantine and vaccination
332 new hospital beds opening and supported by 100 new doctors and 500 new nurses
$100 million emergency department support package which includes $35.6 million to bolster the health workforce to help alleviate demand on the health system
Significant investment to recruit more doctors and nurses and a new recruitment drive>>>
 

Seeds

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Exactly how long do you think it will take to build a hospital?

Looking at fiona stanley:


Planning started in 2004, construction started in 2008 and was completed in 2014


10 years.


Announced september 2021:

<<<
Massive funding boost for health in State Budget

Thursday, 9 September 2021

McGowan Government commits to significant investment in health and mental health hospital services and initiatives
$3.1 billion allocation to expand WA's health system, with $1.3 billion towards improving health infrastructure, major hospital redevelopments and expansions underway across metropolitan and regional WA
$1.8 billion dedicated to plan and construct a new Women and Babies Hospital
$960 million WA Health budget and $487 million for COVID-19 response and preparedness, including hotel quarantine and vaccination
332 new hospital beds opening and supported by 100 new doctors and 500 new nurses
$100 million emergency department support package which includes $35.6 million to bolster the health workforce to help alleviate demand on the health system
Significant investment to recruit more doctors and nurses and a new recruitment drive>>>
You could build a hospital in 8 months if you wanted to. Retrofit an existing builiding to a hospital in 4 months. No urgency at all.


that womens hospital isnt even starting construction until 2023. What a joke.
 

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You could build a hospital in 8 months if you wanted to. Retrofit an existing builiding to a hospital in 4 months. No urgency at all.


that womens hospital isnt even starting construction until 2023. What a joke.
Well the liberals had a long time in power to build a hospital. They didnt.

Richard court - liberal premier was in 9 years and zero hospitals were planned or built.

Labor were elected and Fiona stanley was conceptualised and built by labor under gallop and carpenter.

We then had 9 years of liberal under barnett where zero hospitals were built.

Now labors mcgowans been in since march 2017 - so 4 and a bit years and hes again building a hospital.


He also has a plan in place in the event of a major outbreak to temporarily nationalise all the private hospitals to be covid wards for the duration - massively increasing our capacity without wasting money on a half arsed temporary hospital.


Oh and seeds - can you name another premier thats built a hospital since this covid thing started so we can compare exactly how badly mcgowan has done?

No doubt gladbag has built 3 since covid is rife there yeah?
 

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I think society is now going to slowly move away from cities and giant suburban sprawl and move back out to regional areas. In 50 years time we will look back at 2019 as peak city. Young people will still want to live in them but families and older people wont. the office skyscraper will slowly disappear. And with older workers no longer needing to go to cities the streets in cities will become completely car free. Cities will become solely entertainment and university hubs.

Im quite looking forward to this future to be honest.
In the future most uni students will login from home. They may never step onto campus. Overseas students will only come so they can emigrate at the end of their course.
As what happen in 1992 recession , the modern office skyscraper will be converted in residential.
People living in the CBD will not venture out to the outer suburbs. They will take public transport to the beach. They will holiday overseas.
Regional property is in big demand, selling a quick as it is listed. Fleeing Sydneysiders tend to buy two and rent one out.
I'm not that confident about large shopping malls because of online buying.
 

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In the future most uni students will login from home. They may never step onto campus. Overseas students will only come so they can emigrate at the end of their course.
As what happen in 1992 recession , the modern office skyscraper will be converted in residential.
People living in the CBD will not venture out to the outer suburbs. They will take public transport to the beach. They will holiday overseas.
Regional property is in big demand, selling a quick as it is listed. Fleeing Sydneysiders tend to buy two and rent one out.
I'm not that confident about large shopping malls because of online buying.
This will likely happen as well. Although uni students love social interactions unlike workers with families. But uni students may find other avenues for that rather then at uni themselves.
 

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Well the liberals had a long time in power to build a hospital. They didnt.

Richard court - liberal premier was in 9 years and zero hospitals were planned or built.

Labor were elected and Fiona stanley was conceptualised and built by labor under gallop and carpenter.

We then had 9 years of liberal under barnett where zero hospitals were built.

Now labors mcgowans been in since march 2017 - so 4 and a bit years and hes again building a hospital.


He also has a plan in place in the event of a major outbreak to temporarily nationalise all the private hospitals to be covid wards for the duration - massively increasing our capacity without wasting money on a half arsed temporary hospital.


Oh and seeds - can you name another premier thats built a hospital since this covid thing started so we can compare exactly how badly mcgowan has done?

No doubt gladbag has built 3 since covid is rife there yeah?
Oh dont get me wrong the other premiers and feds have massively failed on this front as well. But WAs hospital system Is the most problematic of the lot cos it was already vastly short of beds even without a pandemic.
 

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Oh dont get me wrong the other premiers and feds have massively failed on this front as well. But WAs hospital system Is the most problematic of the lot cos it was already vastly short of beds even without a pandemic.
And hes approved a hospital


Do you want him to build it himself?

Pretty sure he doesnt hold a trowel
 
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And it will in wa too when you open up without adequate hospital cover.

im sure you will be loving the couple of million you saved on delaying infrastructure spending when you have months long lockdowns cos you didnt have adequate hospital cover.
The front line staff are not knackered, they arent closing EDs as we are in Melbourne .... gratuitous advice by any measure.
 

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