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I saw Inception today (had the day off) at a VMAX session.

The movie didn't confuse me at all, although it didn't really "blow me away" either.

I think the concept was genius, but that the final result just lacks a little bit of polish.

Overall the pace of the movie was very good, there wasn't a scene where I thought "hurry up", but it still didn't grab me the way some great movies do.

It's hard to explain why I didn't love it, maybe it was the Ellen Page casting, which to me was bordering on ridiculous and unbelievable, or maybe because you always knew there wasn't going to be a real final conclusion to the film.

I'd watch it again, but will probably wait for DVD/Blu-Ray release.

I can smell a sequel though, especially as it has been so successful, but I hope they leave it where it is, a sequel wouldn't have anything "new" to really tell us or explore that this film didn't.

I'd give the film 7.5/10, great concept, just lacking a little bit in execution and some casting choices.
 
bresker said:
Drunk? It is a very stupid movie pretending to be intelligent.

Jut cause you said I was drunk & my review was bad I am removing two points.

it's now a 4/10 movie instead of 6/10.
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Agree with this. Went expecting a brilliant movie, walked away thinking what a waste of time.

Really disappointing considering the hype. The plot was boring and ill-conceived.. I mean wow, a dream within a dream.. thanks Edgar Allan Nolan:rolleyes:

Some people tried to start an applause at the end of my viewing... I cringed. Yawn of a film that couldve been good. People saying it was a mindf**k havent really been mindfu**ed!

That chick was hot tho. Film's best feature.
 
mattys123 said:
I saw Inception today (had the day off) at a VMAX session.

The movie didn't confuse me at all, although it didn't really "blow me away" either.

I think the concept was genius, but that the final result just lacks a little bit of polish.

Overall the pace of the movie was very good, there wasn't a scene where I thought "hurry up", but it still didn't grab me the way some great movies do.

It's hard to explain why I didn't love it, maybe it was the Ellen Page casting, which to me was bordering on ridiculous and unbelievable, or maybe because you always knew there wasn't going to be a real final conclusion to the film.

I'd watch it again, but will probably wait for DVD/Blu-Ray release.

I can smell a sequel though, especially as it has been so successful, but I hope they leave it where it is, a sequel wouldn't have anything "new" to really tell us or explore that this film didn't.

I'd give the film 7.5/10, great concept, just lacking a little bit in execution and some casting choices.
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Disagree on the sequel bit. Nolan doesn't strike me as the type to do a sequel "just because". Only sequel he's done was The Dark Knight, and he HAD to do that one.
 

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Definately worth seeing, but not perfect.

One thing I wasn't sure about was <spolier>....

how the 'other people' got into the dream and acted according to the plan.

Two examples:

Browning (Fischer's sidekick). How did he get into the dream and why was he playing along with the kidnap sting? When they ungagged him at the hotel he made the false confession to Fischer.

Fischer Senior, the dieing father. On his death bed he uttered "disappointed... you tried". The "you tried" bit was inserted so Fischer would feel that his dad was actually proud of him as a person but didn't want him to sustain the empire. In reality the father thought his son was just an unworthy person, which obviously p***ed him off (the son). So again, who was this dad in the dream and how were his strings pulled by the other guys?
 
HarryTiger said:
Definately worth seeing, but not perfect.

One thing I wasn't sure about was <spolier>....

how the 'other people' got into the dream and acted according to the plan.

Two examples:

Browning (Fischer's sidekick). How did he get into the dream and why was he playing along with the kidnap sting? When they ungagged him at the hotel he made the false confession to Fischer.

Fischer Senior, the dieing father. On his death bed he uttered "disappointed... you tried". The "you tried" bit was inserted so Fischer would feel that his dad was actually proud of him as a person but didn't want him to sustain the empire. In reality the father thought his son was just an unworthy person, which obviously p***ed him off (the son). So again, who was this dad in the dream and how were his strings pulled by the other guys?
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That wasn't Browning. It was Eames. He's "The Forger". He pretends to be other people in "The Mark"'s dreams to get them trusting him
 
ManWithNoName said:
That wasn't Browning. It was Eames. He's "The Forger". He pretends to be other people in "The Mark"'s dreams to get them trusting him
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What about the father though? I recall Eames standing at the door when Fischer Jr was leaning in to hear what his father was saying, so he wasn't taking a different form then. Had they manipulated his dreams enough to make his sub-conscious create this altered projection of his dying father.
 
OK, this was a visual masterpiece but an at times mess conceptually. I think it could either have been culled by about 30 minutes or flesh out a few characters more, especially Gordon-Levitt's.

There is one thing that is bugging me and if I don't ask this question (and I know I am risking looking rather foolish) I will not get it out of my head, but
is this whole movie a figment of Cobb's (Di Caprio) imagination? The final shot of the spinny thing not falling down (or was it about to when they cut) leads me to believe that the entire thing was a dream. Am I wrong?
 
Dirtywhirl said:
What about the father though? I recall Eames standing at the door when Fischer Jr was leaning in to hear what his father was saying, so he wasn't taking a different form then. Had they manipulated his dreams enough to make his sub-conscious create this altered projection of his dying father.
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I think earlier in the film when they are coming up with the strategy, Cobb says that a dream will try and produce a positive outcome rather than a negative. The opportunity to change what his father thought of him caused his mind to add the "you tried" bit. It just allowed Murphy's character the closure he needed to make the decision they wanted, to split the company.
 
ManWithNoName said:
That wasn't Browning. It was Eames. He's "The Forger". He pretends to be other people in "The Mark"'s dreams to get them trusting him
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Thanks, I just read that on another review, I must have missed it in the film. So he was like one of the Super Heroes with his special skill, a bit too convenient that but I'll accept it.

Still leaves the dad but it won't kill me if there isn't an obvious explanation - it's that kind of movie.
 
TheStinger said:
OK, this was a visual masterpiece but an at times mess conceptually. I think it could either have been culled by about 30 minutes or flesh out a few characters more, especially Gordon-Levitt's.

There is one thing that is bugging me and if I don't ask this question (and I know I am risking looking rather foolish) I will not get it out of my head, but
is this whole movie a figment of Cobb's (Di Caprio) imagination? The final shot of the spinny thing not falling down (or was it about to when they cut) leads me to believe that the entire thing was a dream. Am I wrong?
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The movie was reality. What's left up to the interpretation of the viewer is whether or not the last bit, from when Cobb woke up on the plane, is a dream of not
 
Did a very good job of passing itself off as smarter than it actually was. It isn't that hard to invent a world and only explain it as you go along. Having said that it looked terrific with the hotel fight being the highlight. DiCaprio wasn't at his usual level for mine, he didn't steal this movie.
 
HarryTiger said:
Thanks, I just read that on another review, I must have missed it in the film. So he was like one of the Super Heroes with his special skill, a bit too convenient that but I'll accept it.

Still leaves the dad but it won't kill me if there isn't an obvious explanation - it's that kind of movie.
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HTR >
I was under the impression that Murphy would populate the world with people out of his own subconscious. So from the very beginning they are trying to plant a certain opinion of his father and Browning in his mind so that he he imagines them acting in the way they did.
By that final snow world Murphy had imagined that his father wanted him to split up the company so that is what he heard him say because him sub-conscious told him that was what he WOULD say.
 

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Saw it today, 10 out of 10, pretty much a masterpiece. I'm a huge fan of Philip K Dick's writing and this explored similar themes about reality, albeit in a more realistic form. But it wove in other themes of fatherhood and guilt as well. Cobb is driven by his kids and the job surrounds Cillian Murphy's feelings toward his father.

IMHO conceptually it was fine, most of the film is explained pretty well in the dialogue, the only real thing left vague is how Cobb found Saito in limbo, but limbo is a place of shared consciousness and Cobb has spent a long time there.

Another complaint seems to be the OTT action but it was a sci fi film clothed in the form of a thriller, and boy did it make the film thrilling. Someone upthread compared it to Heat and I think thats a valid comparison.
 
FRUMPY said:
Highlight> Because the asian guy died in the snow level (3rd) and went to limbo. Dicaprio's character dies in the 4th level and goes into limbo. As the different levels work on different timelines, it meant that the asian guy had been in limbo alot longer than dicaprio, hence the different aging. >
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Just to clear that up Saito is older because he dies in level 3 but Leo doesnt die until he drowns in level 1 in the van after getting kicked back from level 4.
 
spud_jjj said:
p.s. I thought having Murphy find the

'wind-sail toy' in the safe was a brilliant addition. Part of the reason I'd label this as a great 'thinking' film
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I wasn't sure about it before and just did some reading. I still don't get why it would rate as requiring much thinking to get it's significance, so I might be missing something.

What's your take on it?
 
I liked it better upon the second viewing, I think. More chance to really take in the visuals and little threads of narrative without concentrating on the plot so much.

Agree with others on JGL's character, at least, needing to be more 'fleshed-out.' He's a talented actor. It would have added another dimension to what is a very good film.

[A bit off topic] Speaking of talented actors..Tom Hardy, the next Mad Max. His performance in Bronson was top notch.
 
HarryTiger said:
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I wasn't sure about it before and just did some reading. I still don't get why it would rate as requiring much thinking to get it's significance, so I might be missing something.

What's your take on it?
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My take on it:

I guess not much thought is required to appreciate its significance, but I thought it was a nice touch, and a case of the writing going a step further than it had to to get a point across (not to the film's detriment). They could've just had the childhood photo, but Hardy/Page decided to put that in as well as the forger/architect.

I'd probably have to watch it again to further explain myself I reckon, but I remember just thinking 'YES!' when I saw it happen.
 

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I actually never realised that the <spoiler>pinwheel</spoiler> was in the photo at the time I watched it, didn't focus enough at the time. Plus a very distracting cinema isle light pissed me off through the film - thank you Village for that.
 
Finally saw it.

Right now thinking I saw a great film, not sure if I saw a brilliant film. Visually stunning, and whilst a certain aspect of the film left me a little confused --> layers of dreams, wiki cleared it up<-- I found it as a whole to be pretty satisfying, and ended the way it should of ended.

FWIW on the ending --> I believe he's still dreaming. Removed from guilt allows him to see the faces of his kids, and like someone mentioned earlier about dreams ending positively, just my opinion. <---

Scoring was great, and this is very cool http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UVkQ0C4qDvM&feature=player_embedded Don't be seeing if you havent' seen it, because comments will spoil...


Memento still rates higher in my book, but after a second viewing, I could grow to have a greater appreciation for it.
 
I don't think it was a dream, in dreams the totem spins continuously and doesn't slow down IIRC? At the end the totem slows down and wobbles.
 

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