Think Tank Is it time to ban greyhound racing and horse racing for good?

[theyellowsash]

They limit bets on blokes who are professional punters. No problems on taking money off mugs but if you a good at winning they make it bloody hard. I have a family member who has been limited to betting small amounts on most betting agencies.

i dont support gambling, but if its going to exist then it shouldnt fairly be able to limit access to people that are 'too good'. thats the nail in the coffin that proves its an industry which only exists to rip money off the vulnerable, and accidentally includes some sensible everyday people as a byproduct. they dont even hide it really.

there was a great segment on gruen yesterday about how the ladbrokes 'gamble responsibly' ad was a pisstake on the whole 'gamble responsibly' thing.

 

[theyellowsash]

Aristotle Pickett Lethality Jazny

Thoughts on Tommy Waterhouse ?

Living the dream I say !!!

the vrc doesnt approve. too much visible skin on the ladies.

 

[caveman72]

i dont support gambling, but if its going to exist then it shouldnt fairly be able to limit access to people that are 'too good'. thats the nail in the coffin that proves its an industry which only exists to rip money off the vulnerable, and accidentally includes some sensible everyday people as a byproduct. they dont even hide it really.

there was a great segment on gruen yesterday about how the ladbrokes 'gamble responsibly' ad was a pisstake on the whole 'gamble responsibly' thing.

A bit like casinos banning people who can count cards. Only in it to make money off the mugs

 

[theyellowsash]

A bit like casinos banning people who can count cards. Only in it to make money off the mugs

id throw the lot of them out. countless places around the world do juts fine without casinos and pokies

 

[Doggies1972]

Interesting statistics.
Over 200,000 horses are killed every year for human consumption.
China produced and slaughtered the most of any country, where one could assume, judging by their dog markets, they aren't treated very well.
But the EU is the biggest produced as a whole, and is the biggest consumer.
Think race horses have it pretty good considering.

 

[Laphroaig]

some classy and well thought out points here

Good boy.

When you run out of ideas fall back on a pointless GIF.

Surely nobody will see through such a cunning strategy.

 

[theyellowsash]

Interesting statistics.
Over 200,000 horses are killed every year for human consumption.
China produced and slaughtered the most of any country, where one could assume, judging by their dog markets, they aren't treated very well.
But the EU is the biggest produced as a whole, and is the biggest consumer.
Think race horses have it pretty good considering.

theres a difference between food and gambling

 

[Lethality]

Interesting statistics.
Over 200,000 horses are killed every year for human consumption.
China produced and slaughtered the most of any country, where one could assume, judging by their dog markets, they aren't treated very well.
But the EU is the biggest produced as a whole, and is the biggest consumer.
Think race horses have it pretty good considering.

Every year, as many as 10,000 horses bred for racing are slaughtered, and the majority will be used for pet food. One RSPCA commissioned report found that only 300 out of every 1000 thoroughbred foals bred every year are ever raced, with many of those who don’t make the cut sent to slaughter.

Those who do make the cut are no better off. Since horses begin stressful training and racing when their skeletal systems are still growing, many sustain muscle and joint injuries, fractures, internal bleeding, musculoskeletal trauma, and ruptured ligaments. Approximately 90 per cent of horses used in the racing industry suffer from exercise-induced pulmonary haemorrhage, a condition that can leave blood flowing from their nostrils after a race.

Life off the track is no better. Horses spend up to 22 hours per day in cramped, hot stables so that they can spend just a few minutes racing. This can lead to stress-induced behaviours, such as walking in circles, sucking wind, crib-biting, and repetitive head swaying.

Nearly all horses who do race disappear from the track in less than three years. By age 3 – when they are still physically immature – most horses have seen their last race. When horses become injured or suffer from chronic diseases, they aren’t “retired” to green pastures and loving homes. Many of them will be sent to the same knackeries that slaughtered the horses who didn’t make the cut to begin with.

 

[Electronic_Renaissance]

theres a difference between food and gambling

I'm no vegetarian but you are correct. It is about suffering.

You can humanely kill an animal or you can treat them like s**t until they die or need to be killed. I prefer the former.

 

[theyellowsash]

Good boy.

When you run out of ideas fall back on a pointless GIF.

Surely nobody will see through such a cunning strategy.

thats rich coming from someone whos simply been insulting people and accusing them of lying if they hear something they dont like

 

[Doggies1972]

Every year, as many as 10,000 horses bred for racing are slaughtered, and the majority will be used for pet food. One RSPCA commissioned report found that only 300 out of every 1000 thoroughbred foals bred every year are ever raced, with many of those who don’t make the cut sent to slaughter.

Those who do make the cut are no better off. Since horses begin stressful training and racing when their skeletal systems are still growing, many sustain muscle and joint injuries, fractures, internal bleeding, musculoskeletal trauma, and ruptured ligaments. Approximately 90 per cent of horses used in the racing industry suffer from exercise-induced pulmonary haemorrhage, a condition that can leave blood flowing from their nostrils after a race.

Life off the track is no better. Horses spend up to 22 hours per day in cramped, hot stables so that they can spend just a few minutes racing. This can lead to stress-induced behaviours, such as walking in circles, sucking wind, crib-biting, and repetitive head swaying.

Nearly all horses who do race disappear from the track in less than three years. By age 3 – when they are still physically immature – most horses have seen their last race. When horses become injured or suffer from chronic diseases, they aren’t “retired” to green pastures and loving homes. Many of them will be sent to the same knackeries that slaughtered the horses who didn’t make the cut to begin with.

So as I said..Looks a better life for the majority of horses that are bred for racing, than all that are bred for food, especially those farmed in China.

 

[Turnover]

Derby day Saturday, punters GF. Good luck

 

[theyellowsash]

So as I said..Looks a better life for the majority of horses that are bred for racing, than all that are bred for food, especially those farmed in China.

killing animals for food >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> daylight >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>killing animals for gambling

 

[Lethality]

So as I said..Looks a better life for the majority of horses that are bred for racing, than all that are bred for food, especially those farmed in China.

How so? You live in atrocious conditions and likelihood is you get eaten anyway.

 

[Doggies1972]

killing animals for food >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> daylight >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>killing animals for gambling

It has already been mentioned, that many horses involved in the gambling industry also end up in the food industry.

 

[Jazny]

Laphroaig making an extremely early run for MOTY and FOTY 2022.

 

[Doggies1972]

How so? You live in atrocious conditions and likelihood is you get eaten anyway.

You really comparing the way the industry treats horses in Australia, is compatible to a Chinese livestock farm.
Losing any credibility using that as an argument.

 

[Stronzo]

You can buy horse meat at the supermarkets here. I ate it once, and had trouble getting it down. Although my mother in law prepared it and she can’t cook for s**t so that might’ve been the issue.

Apparently it’s very rich in iron and doctors here recommend it for pregnant women. [/useless info]

 

[Stronzo]

You might as well give them a chance to be the next black caviar before you have them accompanied with some black caviar, amirite?

 

[Lethality]

You really comparing the way the industry treats horses in Australia, is compatible to a Chinese livestock farm.
Losing any credibility using that as an argument.

The comparison is racing which is mostly wastage, and livestock assuming that industry exists independent of racing. Not a comparison between Australia and China.

I think the early bolt to the noggin would be more humane than abusing the animal for years before killing it.

 

[Taylor Moss]

killing animals for food >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> daylight >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>killing animals for gambling

I bet ya wrong.

 

[Electronic_Renaissance]

You can buy horse meat at the supermarkets here. I ate it once, and had trouble getting it down. Although my mother in law prepared it and she can’t cook for sh*t so that might’ve been the issue.

Apparently it’s very rich in iron and doctors here recommend it for pregnant women. [/useless info]

I've had it both in Bologna and Verona (cooked myself, not at a restaurant). I found it harder to find in other places. They have this hourse mince elsewhere, but it is more like pulled pork than mince.

We had a kitchen so just cooked it like steak. Didnt take long to cook. Didn't tell one person what it was (we knew he wouldn't care anyway) and it just tasted like beef. Maybe a but stronger.

Never had it in a restaurant though. I think I said elsewhere but it seems to be marketed like kangaroo is here. Low fat, high protein. As far as I found it is a niche product, like kangaroo.

How was yours prepared? We bought some sort of fillet and it was fine.

 

[Doggies1972]

The comparison is racing which is mostly wastage, and livestock assuming that industry exists independent of racing. Not a comparison between Australia and China.

I think the early bolt to the noggin would be more humane than abusing the animal for years before killing it.

Those pristine diets, spa baths and swimming pools, temperature controlled stables, physio's and doctors on beck and call, manicured feet and lush soft grass to run on must be terrible. If Mr Ed was in a racing stable I doubt he would agree.

 

[Cotchins Hair Piece]

Yes.

 

[Laphroaig]

Laphroaig making an extremely early run for MOTY and FOTY 2022.

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