Mid East Israel declare war after Hamas attack II

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Mid East - Israel declare war after Hamas attack.

Breaking the law. 'International humanitarian law prohibits a siege of Gaza, UN human rights commissioner says From CNN's Eve Brennan Ravina Shamdasani speaks at the Palais des Nations in Geneva, Switzerland, on September 7, 2018. Ravina Shamdasani speaks at the Palais des Nations in...
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Gethelred said:
Alright.

I recognise that this is a fraught topic for any number of you posting here. Some of you will have family in Israel or Palestine. Some of you will have connections to either side of the conflict. What you need to understand is that this site has rules governing posting standards and the appropriate way to talk to other posters, and you will abide by them.

How this interacts with this thread is that the following will result in your post being deleted, with a recurrence of the same behaviour resulting in (depending on severity) a threadban for a week and a day off:
  • direct labelling of someone as anti-semitic or a terrorist sympathiser for posting that is merely critical of Israel's response over time. I appreciate that Israel has the right to defend themselves from violence, but that does not mean that Israel has carte blanche to attack disproportionately towards people under their care.
  • deliberate goading or flippant responses, designed to get people reacting to your posting emotionally.
  • abuse.
  • attempts to turn this into a Left vs Right shitfight.
  • If I see the word 'Nazi' in here, you had better be able to justify it in the post you're making and the comparison had better be apt. Godwin's law is in full effect for the purposes of this thread; if you refer to Nazis, you've lost whatever argument you're involved in.
  • Any defense of Hamas' actions on the basis of justification. There's no justification for genocide, regardless of whether or not they have the power to do so.
Please recognise that this is a difficult time for all involved, and some level of sensitivity is absolutely required to permit discussion to flow. From time to time, mods will reach out to specific posters and do some welfare checks; we may even give posters who get a bit too involved some days off to give people some time to cool down. This is not a reflection on you as a poster, merely that this is an intense subject.

I get that this is a fairly intense topic about which opinion can diverge rather significantly. If you feel you cannot be respectful in your disagreement with another poster, it is frequently better to refuse to engage than it is to take up the call.

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Treat each other with the respect each of you deserve.

Thanks all.
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Play nicely, all.
 
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i see josh frydenberg is playing the victim card by raising 1930. shocking as it was conflating the israel genocide and consequent criticism of the corrupt terrorist zionist israeli gov’t is not criticism of the jewish faith.

 

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sr36 said:
Yeah but you don't use the term with that clarification.

Zionism was a movement for an extremely discriminated against group to have an autonomous nation state. Zion is Israel. The whole Zionism is cancer is essentially the call for the annihilation of Israel and Israelis. A lot of the mentions of Zionist in this thread reads like it's on a Neo-nazi or fundamentalist site. You need a different term if you don't want to be aligned with the right wing fundamentalists who yearn to drive all Israelis into the sea.
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Fair enough. I will start using that clarification from here on in, because what you are saying is true enough. Thanks for pointing it out.
 

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fs88 said:
So Hamas shouldn't have poked the bear if it/it's allies couldn't finish the fight?
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What ranking in Hamas do you suppose the 15,000+ Palestinian children had?
 
So we are getting to an interesting point in this genocide.

Netenyahu does not want this genocide to end. Ever. His freedom and political future is tied to it.

But he has almost carpet bombed the whole of Gaza.

When Rafah is levelled - and it has started - will the genocide end because there is nowhere left to bomb (I know - Netanyahu is more than willing to bomb refugee camps so technically there are still some targets) or will Netanyahu just carpet bomb Gaza again?
 
10571z said:
I’d love to know how australia would act if we boarded a country that’s “Government” goal was to eliminate every last one of us.
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If I were Australia's President I'd ask them, publicly for a public answer, what we can do to co-exist. If we can co-exist I would not act like Israel in enforcing ethno-religious supremacy. I would order the immediate execution of those within my ranks who do not support co-existence. No prisoners, my security forces would simply shoot them out of hand.

Co-existence would be mandated throughout the region. Those players who fight against the ideal of our common humanity will be removed from the game board. Simple as that.
 
Geelong_Sicko said:
If I were Australia's President I'd ask them, publicly for a public answer, what we can do to co-exist. If we can co-exist I would not act like Israel in enforcing ethno-religious supremacy. I would order the immediate execution of those within my ranks who do not support co-existence. No prisoners, my security forces would simply shoot them out of hand.

Co-existence would be mandated throughout the region. Those players who fight against the ideal of our common humanity will be removed from the game board. Simple as that.
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And if the “enemy” refused to co-exist?
 
It's just utterly devastating what's happening in Gaza and it seems pretty obvious this won't stop until they eradicate all the Palestinians in Gaza, they'll then seize the land and start rebuilding it with help from the US who will invest Billions, Jared Kushner himself is already imagining the 20 story high luxury hotels and apartments complexes he's gonna build on Mediterranean beach front land, it'll become a holiday destination spot, they will also build a canal ala the Suez canal that the US companies will have free thoroughfare for.

The sad thing is no one in the world can stop them even if they wanted to, the US have already threatened the ICC, if any Arab nations threaten them the US will say try your luck.

Legitimately the only thing that can stop it is a revolution in America, an uprising from the American people and that just isn't going to happen.
 
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