Mid East Israel declare war after Hamas attack II

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Part I:

Mid East - Israel declare war after Hamas attack.

Breaking the law. 'International humanitarian law prohibits a siege of Gaza, UN human rights commissioner says From CNN's Eve Brennan Ravina Shamdasani speaks at the Palais des Nations in Geneva, Switzerland, on September 7, 2018. Ravina Shamdasani speaks at the Palais des Nations in...

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[sdfc]

Penny Wong is a disgrace voting for this shameful UN resolution. Who is the government of Palestine, Penny? You fool. This directly rewards Hamas and it's horrific tactics of 7 October. God help those poor hostages.

It might be pointless but it's not shameful.

Not giving a crap about the tens of thousands killed in Gaza is shameful.

 

[Ghost Patrol]

Penny Wong is a disgrace voting for this UN resolution. Who is the government of Palestine, Penny? You fool. This directly rewards Hamas and it's horrific tactics of 7 October. God help those poor hostages.

Go play with your novelty paper shredder.

If Israel wont comply with UN resolutions, then the rest of the world shouldn't support or even recognise Israel.

 

[Ghost Patrol]

This is what Balls In supports, concentration camps.

 

[sdfc]

Go play with your novelty paper shredder.

If Israel wont comply with UN resolutions, then the rest of the world shouldn't support or even recognise Israel.

Israel's been ignoring UN resolutions since 1967.

 

[Ghost Patrol]

Israel's been ignoring UN resolutions since 1967.

Here's the current list of pariah states.

List of the 13 current Pariah States

13 countries that suffer from the sanctions imposed by the international community due to their mostly autocratic governments.

www.worlddata.info

 

[Balls In]

This is what Balls In supports, concentration camps.

Heavens! All those poor innocent fighting age men! None of whom are associated with the knuckle dragging neanderthals who broke a peace fire, invaded a neighbour and waged the most vile atrocities on innocent women and children we've seen in our lifetimes.

 

[Ghost Patrol]

Heavens! All those poor innocent fighting age men! None of whom are associated with the knuckle dragging neanderthals who broke a peace fire, invaded a neighbour and waged the most vile atrocities on innocent women and children we've seen in our lifetimes.

Are you talking about the 20,000+ innocent women and children killed by Israel?

 

[Balls In]

Are you talking about the 20,000+ innocent women and children killed by Israel?

Human shield victims of the Hamas leadership Penny Wong legitimised today.

 

[Ghost Patrol]

Human shield victims of the Hamas leadership Penny Wong legitimised today.

You have the world view of an IDF hasbara spokesman.

 

[sdfc]

Human shield victims of the Hamas leadership Penny Wong legitimised today.

Thanks for the propaganda but Israel have basically just taken off the mask. They've been brutalising the Palestinians for decades and now the Israelis have made it impossible to ignore.

 

[Boston tiger]

Thanks for the propaganda but Israel have basically just taken off the mask. They've been brutalising the Palestinians for decades and now the Israelis have made it impossible to ignore.

Raping Israeli women and killing them made it impossible to ignore . Three cheers for Hamas.

 

[madmug]

Heavens! All those poor innocent fighting age men! None of whom are associated with the knuckle dragging neanderthals who broke a peace fire, invaded a neighbour and waged the most vile atrocities on innocent women and children we've seen in our lifetimes.

Invaded a neighbour? Please explain?
When you're forced away from your traditional lands, & made to live in a walled enclave. Which has an airport, destroyed by Israel, has no port, destroyed by Israel where you are not allowed to go fishing or you will be killed by the IDF.
Hamas are certainly terrorists. (The IDF also killed a lot of their own people on Oct 7.)
BUT, Killing well over 35,000 civilians, snipers killing children, killing people delivering humanitarian goods, media & medical staff. Raising Hospitals to the ground! Forcing starvation conditions. Give us a break!. Thats Genocidal.
Israel is losing this conflict. Its their own fault. Zionism has gone completely blood thirsty mad. When western media & the US government can read the tea leaves on this, Israel is destroying itself morally & losing support every day. The world will not forget, nor forgive. Social media has exposed their atrocities.
And you think really Netanyahu gives a toss about a few hostages? GROW UP!

 

[Ghost Patrol]

Raping Israeli women and killing them made it impossible to ignore . Three cheers for Hamas.

IDF have been killing and raping Palestinian women and children since before Hamas even existed.

 

[sdfc]

Raping Israeli women and killing them made it impossible to ignore . Three cheers for Hamas.

Why do you think all the people getting killed in Gaza are Hamas?

 

[madmug]

Why do you think all the people getting killed in Gaza are Hamas?

Its called collective punishment. Blame & kill children & women & anyone in the place for being there.
Israel has become the thing that caused its very being.
The Holocaust.
The world is awakening to this Zionist evil. Israel is now literally killing its own future.

 

[Ghost Patrol]

Raping Israeli women and killing them made it impossible to ignore . Three cheers for Hamas.

Out of 1,542 IDF sexual assault complaints, just 31 indictments filed

The IDF released figures of sexual assault for 2020 in February of last year with 1,542 complaints, including 26 cases of rape, 391 obscene acts, and 92 cases of distributing photos and videos.

www.jpost.com

 

[sdfc]

Its called collective punishment. Blame & kill children & women & anyone in the place for being there.
Israel has become the thing that caused its very being.
The Holocaust.
The world is awakening to this Zionist evil. Israel is now literally killing its own future.

Israel is an interesting study into human nature.

 

[SaintsSeptember]

There's a difference between pursuing a better life and being forced out at gunpoint with famine being used as a weapon as well as bombs and missiles from all directions and the destruction of all civilian infrastructure.

Comparing the two is borderline offensive.

Lots of people commit suicide too, but we don't excuse murder because of it.

Yeah sure the Vietnamese were sitting round thinking , "oh i could better my life ".
People have AlWAYS left their homeland when it became insufferable.

I don't care if that offends you.
But i don't think it actually does.

 

[madmug]

Israel is an interesting study into human nature.

Under statement!!

 

[Geelong_Sicko]

Penny Wong is a disgrace voting for this UN resolution. Who is the government of Palestine, Penny? You fool. This directly rewards Hamas and it's horrific tactics of 7 October. God help those poor hostages.

Palestine's in two parts. One faction in the West Bank ruled by Fatah and Gaza which is ruled by Hamas currently. I trust Australia will be working with Fatah more than Hamas.

 

[Number37]

Raping Israeli women and killing them made it impossible to ignore . Three cheers for Hamas.

Zionist lies.
All that you have is repeating Zionist lies.
The only purpose you repeat Zionist lies for is to help excuse genocide and land theft.

 

[madmug]

Zionist lies.
All that you have is repeating Zionist lies.
The only purpose you repeat Zionist lies for is to help excuse genocide and land theft.

Zionists have become the masters of being the victims. 'Hamas are stealing our bullets'

 

[Aristotle Pickett]

No Australia will support they’re allies which one is America by extension it means Australia will support Israel that must really grind your gears.

You're wrong, it's not total support, Australia is bscking Palestine to be included in the UN. That must really grind your gears having a repressesed population getting political representation.

 

[Aristotle Pickett]

Eurovision has been a debacle thanks to Israel being allowed to have an entry despite their ongoing war crimes.

 

[Balls In]

Invaded a neighbour? Please explain?

Oh, your an October 7 denier. There was a ceasefire deal fall through just yesterday because the Palestinians changed the terms from "living" hostages to "living or dead".