Jars is a nob

[spindoctor]

My God, his spots on Channel 10 are cringeworthingly bad. He is an embarrassment.

Problem with him pumping up Ladhams are our forward-line crumber is Lads is too busy doing things like playing golf with Jars and not paying attention to his football to get that job.

 

[jo172]

You think he co-writes with Mcdermott and Rucci because i can no longer tell the diffrence between the three ********ers!

 

[NikkiNoo]

You think he co-writes with Mcdermott and Rucci because i can no longer tell the diffrence between the three ********ers!

I'll help you there jo - one has really bad hair and awful taste in shirts, another one has no hair and the third one is well.... butt uglier than the other 2

 

[Wharfie35]

Another former player you hate. WHo do you like in the media??? Anyone who says the Crows are good I suppose

 

[jo172]

Wharfie you'll notice these two former players were both greats of the club who were delisted or forced into retirment by Malcom Blight at the end of 1996. What you'll notice about 1996 was the year before the crows won consecutive premierships, these players have never forgiven the club at what they see as a missed opportunity to play in a premiership, personally i cannot really think of any commentators i like! Except maybe Roy and Hg's grand final call on JJJ

 

[Wharfie35]

Wharfie you'll notice these two former players were both greats of the club who were delisted or forced into retirment by Malcom Blight at the end of 1996. What you'll notice about 1996 was the year before the crows won consecutive premierships, these players have never forgiven the club at what they see as a missed opportunity to play in a premiership, personally i cannot really think of any commentators i like! Except maybe Roy and Hg's grand final call on JJJ

Yep think u've summed it up pretty wel there

 

[noddy]

Got nothing against Jars, in fact other ex players could take a leaf out of his book in how to conduct themselves post playing days..

 

[Damp Squarie]

Spinny is right; Jars is a nob.
Id argue that hes a clown too.

 

[Alex99]

Another former player you hate. WHo do you like in the media??? Anyone who says the Crows are good I suppose

That is the impression I am starting to get with some posters on this board.

We only like sycophantic journalists who tell us how ********ing good we are and are willing to close their eyes to certain things that actually may be true, if you say anything negative about the AFC then that Journalist has a chip on his shoulder, is a nob or simply a journalist who would not know one end of a football field to the other. I think some people want Chris Mac to have a vendetta against the club so they can continually bag him because he may not have come from their club of SANFL origin.


I like Chris Mac and A Jarman, I may not agree with every thing they say but appreciate that they are willing to say something critical and this could eventually help the club in a few years.


The only negative thing I could find about the way A Jarman acted on his regular spot on channel Ten news was his bad acting skills on camera, the things he said were informative and not far from the truth especially about C Ladhams. He may have a bad work ethic away from the club but could be a very good small forward for the AFC once he got his head in the right place

 

[Damp Squarie]

I got no problem with what they say...AJ is a clown and CM needs to learn some dress skills b4 too much longer

 

[- PC -]

The only negative thing I could find about the way A Jarman acted on his regular spot on channel Ten news was his bad acting skills on camera, the things he said were informative and not far from the truth especially about C Ladhams. He may have a bad work ethic away from the club but could be a very good small forward for the AFC once he got his head in the right place

I wont go into too many generalities on the journos concerned as I am miles away from it, only to say I dont mind criticism , its the cliches that are used..''chardonnay football'' ''lucky premierships'' '' theatre crowds''. Criticise the football intelligently without resorting to personal abuse or tired old cliches.

Just on Ladhams/Jars..it must hurt AJ to make the criticism he does of the lad as they are close through Ray Ladhams association with Gaza and the northern districts footballing community. I remember visiting the Ladhams house when Chris was 6 and Ray was the legend ( in my eyes) 4 amateur medals around his neck , and know how proud Ray is and how much of a footballing family they are.I like everyone else want Chris to succeed but if he doesnt its a cruel business and he must go. AJ wouldnt want that and I am sure he is also telling CL privately what he says publicly.

Posters we dont need boosters telling us we will finish 4th , we need those McDermotts and Ruccis and OutbackJacks. Sure we get annoyed but we also get knocked back a peg and see the reality. I am as positive as they come and think our year will be good. but I dont think we will fisnish better than 7th with luck and 12th without. As the weeks crawl on 12th looks more and more likely but I remain confident our luck will change and our second half will show how good we are

 

[macca23]

we need those McDermotts and Ruccis and OutbackJacks

Is that a promotion or demotion for jackie boy to be lumped in with that mob?

 

[outback jack]

perthcrow i am very disappointed, stabbing me in the back like that, i had held you in high regard. And to put me in the same grp as that slime rucci, well, i dont think i will ever recover from this now. Mcdermott is just a little bitter and twisted, likes us all in a way, so thats not so bad. The club needs a bit of constructive criticism, cause if you believe triggy, we have a very talented group of youngsters, and in three yrs it will be premiership time.

 

[- PC -]

perthcrow i am very disappointed, stabbing me in the back like that, i had held you in high regard. And to put me in the same grp as that slime rucci, well, i dont think i will ever recover from this now. Mcdermott is just a little bitter and twisted, likes us all in a way, so thats not so bad. The club needs a bit of constructive criticism, cause if you believe triggy, we have a very talented group of youngsters, and in three yrs it will be premiership time.

Actually it was praise in a roundabout way. We DO get too excited and your posts keep us grounded at least.But just like the journos your harsh when you dont need to be

 

[outback jack]

yeah i was taking the pis$, dont worry bout it. Things dont always come across how you mean it when you write it. Rucci though he just takes cheap shots whenever he can, i dont think he'd get any joy seeing the crows rise again. Its hard to read one of his articles where he doesnt mention how good port are, in comparison to us.

 

[relapse]

Another former player you hate. WHo do you like in the media??? Anyone who says the Crows are good I suppose

Nah its not like that at all, Chris McDermott has a chip on his shoulder because him, McGuiness and Jarman were too busy worrying about getting coaches sacked and not worrying about playing football so Blight gave them what they deserved. McDermott still hates it to this day and in the opinion of many he was as big of a problem as the coaching was.

To be honest I have no issue with Jars or Freddy, its just McDermott that i have no time for.

McDermott's apparent hard hitting comments are just a gimmick, he has made many inaccurate statements that prove he really has no idea what he is even on about. He is trying to use this gimmick to give him some media coverage, but its a gimmick that I think he is very poor at.

I remember in 2001, McDermott was on radio early in the season claiming Garry Ayres was hated by all the Adelaide players, the players had no interest playing football under him and that he wasnt a good enough coach to get anything out of the Adelaide squad and he further went on to gurantee that he would sacked before the end of the (2001) season. Yet he went on to coach Adelaide to three consecutive finals series and get Adelaide to a prelim final with a squad that Rucci said in 1999 was finished and needed to be gutted. Good call there Chris !!!!

I agree be hard hitting, but also be constructive, if he now wants to tell the supporters that the club he captained has no soul and identity then thats his choice but thats not being hard hitting. It is widely noted by many that Chris McDermott never has anything positive to say about the AFC.

All we heard last year from him and Rucci was garbage about Neil Craig this and Neil Craig that, no-one else wanted him but these morons shoved it down peoples throats and they are now the first ones to get the knives out even before the season has started.

It also looks like Rucci has found a gimmick for this year to use against Adelaide with Craig making some dumb statement about making the finals and now good old Rucci is going to go on and on about it all year (he has already started). Rucci said last year the side sucked and because Craig thinks they can make the finals which I guess all AFL coaches think of their side he is going to use this all year to mock Adelaide even though he knows they have no chance of making it (he can now talk all year of how they were supposed to make the finals).

Its becoming increasingly obvious why these two morons pushed so hard for Craig's appointment.

Where were the hard hitting comments about the Neil Craig fiasco??? Apparently the power supporters found it ammusing which I can understand. So instead of playing dumb ask yourself if everyone else thought it was a joke why were McDermott and Rucci pushing so hard for his appointment???? Where were their hard hitting comments about it all???? If we all knew it sucked why didnt they ??????????

The truth is they knew the same as what we did, but the fact that they dont make the hard hitting comments when they are really needed speaks volumes about the types of people that they really are.

Rucci didnt want to make public the very anti-craig message that was made loud and clear through 5AA, he even went so far as to call us ill-informed. Here is a man who lives to put negative spin towards the AFC and he misses a prime opportunity to create a war between the AFC and their supporters and he ignores it, as I said before dont play dumb to it all. You know as well as I do that Craig will more than likely do didly squat and will be lucky to still be at the club for the third year of his contract as does Rucci, so why was Rucci so happy about him getting the job I wonder ????????

As for other idiots in the media Mark Aiston springs to mind so there goes your theory about Adelaide supporters only loving people in the media that praise them. I think Graham Cornes in my opinion is a pro-adelaide person in the media that asks the real questions and while he remains loyal to the club still has no issue being critical.

 

[Jerome]

Great post relapse! The only part I disagee with is that I still have a problem with Jars for refusing to play for the club.

I'd like to see David Pittman return to the media. I enjoyed listening to him when he was on 5AA.

 

[noddy]

Great post relapse! The only part I disagee with is that I still have a problem with Jars for refusing to play for the club.

I'd like to see David Pittman return to the media. I enjoyed listening to him when he was on 5AA.

I would also like to say great post relapse.


But maybe now that Craig is coach of our club let's not write him off too soon & give him a fair go at rebuilding/reigniting the team.

 

[macca23]

I would also like to say great post relapse.


But maybe now that Craig is coach of our club let's not write him off to soon & give him a fair go at rebuilding/reigniting the team.

I'm in the same camp as you noddy.

I thought relapse's post was excellent and accurately described the actual situation both past and present.

But as the leader of the anti-Craig's last year, I support your comments about giving Craig a fair go in re-building the Crows before we pass judgement, now that it is his job to do just that.

Our current situation can't be fixed overnight.

 

[jo172]

My only real issue with NC at this stage is every week since he's taken over we've played a diffrent game plan, for example all reports on the game against Melbourne say we were going quick down the middle but from what i hear about other pre-season games says we were playing like last year and kicking short to flanks.

I'm also worried he may be going crazy in the playing of youngsters. A good example is Jericho last year, now personally i like Jericho and if can go in a little harder he'll be exactly the player we need but he was chosen for the senior side after just one good week in the SANFL, than he stayed in the side for the rest of the year. (I am aware that was an Ayres decision by the way)

Last year Watts, Bock, Rutten, Mattner, Reilly, Jericho and Skipworth all got long periods in the AFL for the first times in their careers, with the exceptions of Reilly and Rutten none of the others did anything to set the world on fire, they just played solid footy.

Lets use the Redbacks as an example, playing youth such as Plant for the sake of playing youth and keeping them in the team regardless of form will not win you matches, but when Plant was dropped and the experienced, reliable Deitz was selected again the Redbacks started to win matches.

This is what should of happened last year give players like Watts, Bock and Jericho a taste of AFL footy but don't leave them there! We cannot afford to let them think mediocre performances are acceptable, meanwhile we had players like Hudson, Ladhams, Torney and Begley running around in the SANFL. These are the players that should of been playing if just to prove that they're not good enough so we can finally delist them! (Ladhams)

My main fear is if we continue selecting players such as Bock, Watts and Jericho regardless of form, they may begin to think sub-par form is acceptable which is not the culture we need brought to our footy club.

 

[Mong]

It is widely noted by many that Chris McDermott never has anything positive to say about the AFC.

Which is just as agenda driven as anything Rucci has to say, and completely ignoring reality. McDermott only had positive things to say after Neil Craig was appointed. He also was very positive about the recruitment of Wayne Carey.

These two events were the two single biggest decisions our club has made over the last several years. They are also the two decisions that our club comes under fire for making, including from many people on this forum. Yet these are the same people that reckon McDermott only has negative things to say. Go figure.

If McDermott wanted to stick the boot in, well there were two golden opportunites right there. I haven't heard McDermott, Jarman or McGuinness speak negatively about these controversial issues either. Why is that?

Anyone got any decent explanation for this? I'd like to hear it.

 

[Alex99]

Which is just as agenda driven as anything Rucci has to say, and completely ignoring reality. McDermott only had positive things to say after Neil Craig was appointed. He also was very positive about the recruitment of Wayne Carey.

These two events were the two single biggest decisions our club has made over the last several years. They are also the two decisions that our club comes under fire for making, including from many people on this forum. Yet these are the same people that reckon McDermott only has negative things to say. Go figure.

If McDermott wanted to stick the boot in, well there were two golden opportunites right there. I haven't heard McDermott, Jarman or McGuinness speak negatively about these controversial issues either. Why is that?

Anyone got any decent explanation for this? I'd like to hear it.

Not sure what sort of response you will get after that post **** but I agree with what your saying. I don’t think that Chris Mac has a chip on his shoulder, it could be that he is more willing to call it as he see it rather then take a “lets keep everybody happy” approach to his article and news reports.

 

[Markthirtytwo]

Our current situation can't be fixed overnight.

Like that old saying "But it will happen"

 

[arrowman]

McDermott's apparent hard hitting comments are just a gimmick, he has made many inaccurate statements that prove he really has no idea what he is even on about. He is trying to use this gimmick to give him some media coverage, but its a gimmick that I think he is very poor at.

Spot. On.

It also looks like Rucci has found a gimmick for this year to use against Adelaide with Craig making some dumb statement about making the finals and now good old Rucci is going to go on and on about it all year (he has already started). Rucci said last year the side sucked and because Craig thinks they can make the finals which I guess all AFL coaches think of their side he is going to use this all year to mock Adelaide even though he knows they have no chance of making it (he can now talk all year of how they were supposed to make the finals).

Spot. On. Again.
I think this year we can expect every Rucci article after a Crows loss to begin with “Adelaide’s finals dream fading” or “touted by their coach to be a finals contender this year, Adelaide yesterday…” etc.

Rucci didnt want to make public the very anti-craig message that was made loud and clear through 5AA, he even went so far as to call us ill-informed. Here is a man who lives to put negative spin towards the AFC and he misses a prime opportunity to create a war between the AFC and their supporters and he ignores it, as I said before dont play dumb to it all. You know as well as I do that Craig will more than likely do didly squat and will be lucky to still be at the club for the third year of his contract as does Rucci, so why was Rucci so happy about him getting the job I wonder ????????

Sorry, not spot on, and smacks of the paranoia that many people accuse us of. Maybe at least part of Rucci’s thinking was a genuine opinion that Craig was a legitimate choice, and maybe he genuinely did believe that the criticism was “ill informed”. I think it’s pretty paranoid to suggest that he supported Craig because he thought it was the wrong choice and just wants the Crows to go down.

If McDermott wanted to stick the boot in, well there were two golden opportunites right there. I haven't heard McDermott, Jarman or McGuinness speak negatively about these controversial issues either. Why is that?
Anyone got any decent explanation for this? I'd like to hear it.

I think I have. SANFL Boys’ Club. McD, McG & Jars would never speak negatively about the prospect of a SANFL boy coaching the Crows. Good grief, at one stage McDermott even touted Rehn as a prime candidate (no disrespect to the Big Pussy but….).

C McDermott saying something negative about the Crows does not show he is biased or has a chip on his shoulder, and when he says something positive (or remains silent) it’s not proof of the opposite.

I don’t think McDermott is deliberately negative about the Crows (although I suspect he feels less inclined to hold back, because of his history).

I just think - His Carey opinion was genuine. His Craig opinion was genuine (and reasonable, but also heavily coloured by SANFL Boys’ Club bias). And some of his opinions are just - what relapse said, as I have quoted above.

 

[Mong]

Arrowman talking sense as usual. I agree with everything you've written.