Jeremy Corbyn, former UK Opposition Leader

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Not in Gaza and West Bank.

Gaza is run by Hamas, you know that Palestinian terror group.

The West Bank is run by Fatah, the other Palestinian mob that pay remuneration packages to families of terrorists and also the ones who have refused to negotiate peace with Israel.

Israel have Arabs with full citizenship that represent Israel in every capacity (including the Knesset). If a jew walked into gaza he's be shot.
 
Gaza is run by Hamas, you know that Palestinian terror group.

The West Bank is run by Fatah, the other Palestinian mob that pay remuneration packages to families of terrorists and also the ones who have refused to negotiate peace with Israel.

They're millions of people living under Israeli dominion without a say in how Israel is run. When people reference apartheid this is what they're talking about.

"The ANC are bad dudes" didn't cut it in South Africa.

Israel can make them citizens (like we did with Aboriginals) or give them independence. The status quo will only be defended by pricks.
 
Complete bs, a lie dreamed up in desperation and spouted for the first time as a stick to beat him with when his blairite enemies inside and outside the party suddenly realised the party was going to elect him as leader.
And used thereafter both for that purpose and as a way of forcing the party into a pro-Israel stance under the guise of an anti-semitism policy (the absolute very last thing Israel wants is an alternate PM with an even-handed approach to Israel and Palestine).
And now used again for that purpose by the blairite Rat-runners to hide their real reason for leaving, namely to jump before the party members threw them out.
All that doesn't make it untrue. If it's a lie then why doesn't he refute it, by action and words. He has done none of that. Like many in the left here he won't admit it he is a racist, although he continually meets with terrorists, he had to be dragged screaming to endorse an anti racism platform at the labour conference, and his own party from most factions admit he is.
 

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They're millions of people living under Israeli dominion without a say in how Israel is run. When people reference apartheid this is what they're talking about.

"The ANC are bad dudes" didn't cut it in South Africa.

Israel can make them citizens (like we did with Aboriginals) or give them independence. The status quo will only be defended by pricks.
No one is defending the status quo, but only Hamas and all of the Corbyn's mates want to push the Jews into the sea.
 
Jeremy Corbyn’s Labour is a crucial ally in the fight against antisemitism

Over 200 Jewish members and supporters of the Labour party sign a letter urging that anyone seeking an end to bigotry and racism should back Labour and Corbyn

You report (19 February) that a number of implacably anti-Corbyn MPs have left the Labour party alleging a failed “approach to dealing with antisemitism”, with Luciana Berger criticising Labour for becoming “sickeningly institutionally racist”.

We are Jewish members and supporters of the Labour party concerned about the current rise of reactionary ideologies, including antisemitism, in Britain and elsewhere across Europe.

We note the worrying growth of populist rightwing parties, encouraging racism, Islamophobia and antisemitism. In Britain the far right is whipping up these prejudices, a threat that requires a resolute and energetic response. But instead we have seen a disproportionate focus on antisemitism on the left, which is abhorrent but relatively rare.

We believe that the Labour party under the progressive leadership of Jeremy Corbyn is a crucial ally in the fight against bigotry and reaction. His lifetime record of campaigning for equality and human rights, including consistent support for initiatives against antisemitism, is formidable. His involvement strengthens this struggle.

Labour governments introduced both the anti-racist and human rights legislation of the 20th century and the 2010 Equalities Act. A Labour government led by Jeremy Corbyn will be a powerful force to fight against racism, Islamophobia and antisemitism.

It is in this context that we welcome the Labour party’s endorsement of freedom of expression on Israel and on the rights of Palestinians. Labour is correct to recognise that while prejudice against Jewish people is deplorable, criticism of Israel’s government and policies can and must be made.

We urge all who wish to see an end to bigotry and racism, and who seek a more just society, to give their support to the Labour party.

Prof Elizabeth Dore
Prof David Epstein
Prof Gene Feder
Mike Leigh
Prof Mica Nava
Prof Michael Rosen
Prof Donald Sassoon
Prof Avi Shlaim
Gillian Slovo
Prof Annabelle Sreberny
Walter Wolfgang
Prof John Yudkin
John Abraham
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Dr Jon Berry
Cllr Jo Bird
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Jay Blackwood
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Tony Booth
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Peter Buckman
Andy Burkitt
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Samuel Burrowes
Keith Burstein
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Eve Cina
Andrew Clifford
Emma Clyne
Jonathan Clyne
Mike Cohen
Ron Cohen
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Kathy Cohn
Rita Craft
Judith Cravitz
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Miriam David
Steven Davidson
Hilary De Santos
Alan Deadman
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Pia Feig
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Arye Finkle
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Roisin Francis
Esther Freeman
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All that doesn't make it untrue. If it's a lie then why doesn't he refute it, by action and words. He has done none of that.

He has refuted it repeatedly, almost ad infinitum.

he had to be dragged screaming to endorse an anti racism platform at the labour conference, .

It wasn't an anti-racism platform, it was a pro-Israel platform in the guise of an anti-semitism policy.

his own party from most factions admit he is.

Utter bs, the blairites who started the lie "admit it", not surprisingly, as they started it purely as a stick to beat him with.
The large majority of the party - ie, his supporters - treat it as the factional bs that it is.

he continually meets with terrorists

He continually meets with people supporting both sides in the dispute, it's called being even-handed.
 
They're millions of people living under Israeli dominion without a say in how Israel is run. When people reference apartheid this is what they're talking about.

"The ANC are bad dudes" didn't cut it in South Africa.

Israel can make them citizens (like we did with Aboriginals) or give them independence. The status quo will only be defended by pricks.

Are you serious?

Firstly.

In Israel, Israeli arabs have full rights. Arabs represent Israel in sport, in the knesset (so you are wrong, they do have a say in how Israel is run), there are arabs in high court as judges, Arab doctors work together with jewish doctors on the entire population and arabs even participate in the IDF. They ARE citizens (those who are Israeli Arab). You clearly don't know how it is over there. To mention apartheid is not only completely ridiculous, it is insulting to the black south africans who actually did go through apartheid. There is NOTHING alike.

You declaring they are alike is insulting to Jews & South Africans and shows you don't really know what is going on over there. Israeli Arabs are treated better in Israel than Arabs are in other states. Gay arabs are persecuted in the middle east everywhere except Israel for instance. In Iran, woman are not allowed to watch Iranian sportsmen play. In Israel, Arab women participate in Israeli sports teams.

Secondly, what do you mean give them independence? Israel gave them Gaza by forcing their own israeli citizens out (being the first ever land given to the Palestinians to control themselves) in a sign of good faith and showing for peace. What did the Palestinians do in return? They appointed in a terrorist organisation and used Gaza as a base to shoot rockets from, kidnap innocent israeli civilians and generally to attack Israel.

The palestinians never had their own state. They were offered there own state side by side with Israel for the first time in 1948. Israel accepted to live this way. The arabs refused to live side by side with Israel and instead declared war on the new Israeli state. They lost and have tried to get land through terror ever since (remember Munich? and the 100s of other terrorist attacks perpetrated by the Palestinians?

Nonetheless, Israel still tried to offer land for peace in 2000, 2001 & 2008 with offering the Palestinians 97% of the land they wanted (mainly WB). This was the chance for the Palestinians to have independence and statehood, an amazing offer. What did they do??? The Palestinians refused and did what they always do. That is, inflict terror and violence against Israeli civilians in the form of suicide bombing cafes and pizza shops, stabbings and car rammings.

Go research the history.

How can Israel give land if the Palestinians refuse to accept Israel's existence and always resort to violence and terror?

Not everything Israel do is right, their settlement expansion in the WB is wrong and a barrier to a future 2 state solution. But the general theory that the Palestinians are the victims is the biggest myth in the middle east.
 
Are you serious?

Firstly.

In Israel, Israeli arabs have full rights. Arabs represent Israel in sport, in the knesset (so you are wrong, they do have a say in how Israel is run), there are arabs in high court as judges, Arab doctors work together with jewish doctors on the entire population and arabs even participate in the IDF. They ARE citizens (those who are Israeli Arab). You clearly don't know how it is over there. To mention apartheid is not only completely ridiculous, it is insulting to the black south africans who actually did go through apartheid. There is NOTHING alike.

You declaring they are alike is insulting to Jews & South Africans and shows you don't really know what is going on over there. Israeli Arabs are treated better in Israel than Arabs are in other states. Gay arabs are persecuted in the middle east everywhere except Israel for instance. In Iran, woman are not allowed to watch Iranian sportsmen play. In Israel, Arab women participate in Israeli sports teams.

Secondly, what do you mean give them independence? Israel gave them Gaza by forcing their own israeli citizens out (being the first ever land given to the Palestinians to control themselves) in a sign of good faith and showing for peace. What did the Palestinians do in return? They appointed in a terrorist organisation and used Gaza as a base to shoot rockets from, kidnap innocent israeli civilians and generally to attack Israel.

The palestinians never had their own state. They were offered there own state side by side with Israel for the first time in 1948. Israel accepted to live this way. The arabs refused to live side by side with Israel and instead declared war on the new Israeli state. They lost and have tried to get land through terror ever since (remember Munich? and the 100s of other terrorist attacks perpetrated by the Palestinians?

Nonetheless, Israel still tried to offer land for peace in 2000, 2001 & 2008 with offering the Palestinians 97% of the land they wanted (mainly WB). This was the chance for the Palestinians to have independence and statehood, an amazing offer. What did they do??? The Palestinians refused and did what they always do. That is, inflict terror and violence against Israeli civilians in the form of suicide bombing cafes and pizza shops, stabbings and car rammings.

Go research the history.

How can Israel give land if the Palestinians refuse to accept Israel's existence and always resort to violence and terror?

Not everything Israel do is right, their settlement expansion in the WB is wrong and a barrier to a future 2 state solution. But the general theory that the Palestinians are the victims is the biggest myth in the middle east.

"Blah blah blah I'll bore you into submission"
 
Are you serious?

Firstly.

In Israel, Israeli arabs have full rights. Arabs represent Israel in sport, in the knesset (so you are wrong, they do have a say in how Israel is run), there are arabs in high court as judges, Arab doctors work together with jewish doctors on the entire population and arabs even participate in the IDF. They ARE citizens (those who are Israeli Arab). You clearly don't know how it is over there. To mention apartheid is not only completely ridiculous, it is insulting to the black south africans who actually did go through apartheid. There is NOTHING alike.

You declaring they are alike is insulting to Jews & South Africans and shows you don't really know what is going on over there. Israeli Arabs are treated better in Israel than Arabs are in other states. Gay arabs are persecuted in the middle east everywhere except Israel for instance. In Iran, woman are not allowed to watch Iranian sportsmen play. In Israel, Arab women participate in Israeli sports teams.

Secondly, what do you mean give them independence? Israel gave them Gaza by forcing their own israeli citizens out (being the first ever land given to the Palestinians to control themselves) in a sign of good faith and showing for peace. What did the Palestinians do in return? They appointed in a terrorist organisation and used Gaza as a base to shoot rockets from, kidnap innocent israeli civilians and generally to attack Israel.

The palestinians never had their own state. They were offered there own state side by side with Israel for the first time in 1948. Israel accepted to live this way. The arabs refused to live side by side with Israel and instead declared war on the new Israeli state. They lost and have tried to get land through terror ever since (remember Munich? and the 100s of other terrorist attacks perpetrated by the Palestinians?

Nonetheless, Israel still tried to offer land for peace in 2000, 2001 & 2008 with offering the Palestinians 97% of the land they wanted (mainly WB). This was the chance for the Palestinians to have independence and statehood, an amazing offer. What did they do??? The Palestinians refused and did what they always do. That is, inflict terror and violence against Israeli civilians in the form of suicide bombing cafes and pizza shops, stabbings and car rammings.

Go research the history.

How can Israel give land if the Palestinians refuse to accept Israel's existence and always resort to violence and terror?

Not everything Israel do is right, their settlement expansion in the WB is wrong and a barrier to a future 2 state solution. But the general theory that the Palestinians are the victims is the biggest myth in the middle east.
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Almost every single statement, assertion and assumption in those 3 short lines is flat out wrong.
Which one
Corbyn is a racist anti Semite

Corbyn against what his party and labour supporters want, wants to leave the EU and doesn't want a second referendum.

Corbyn is a left wing nutter extremist



So all across the MSM we have similar articles posting the following:

There is a feeling within Labour that more MPs will quit the party next week if leader Jeremy Corbyn fails to support an amendment which pushes for a new referendum on Brexit.
Seven MPs resigned from Labour on Monday morning in the party’s biggest split in nearly four decades.
The group – which included former leadership hopeful Chuka Umunna, ex-shadow Cabinet minister Chris Leslie, and Luciana Berger – cited Corbyn’s handling of Brexit and the antisemitism crisis which has engulfed the party.


Hmmmm. I suppose you guys know more than those that work with him. Or is it just a big conspiracy?
 
So all across the MSM we have similar articles posting the following:

There is a feeling within Labour that more MPs will quit the party next week if leader Jeremy Corbyn fails to support an amendment which pushes for a new referendum on Brexit.
Seven MPs resigned from Labour on Monday morning in the party’s biggest split in nearly four decades.
The group – which included former leadership hopeful Chuka Umunna, ex-shadow Cabinet minister Chris Leslie, and Luciana Berger – cited Corbyn’s handling of Brexit and the antisemitism crisis which has engulfed the party.


Hmmmm. I suppose you guys know more than those that work with him. Or is it just a big conspiracy?
Before the members tossed them overboard.

Good career move.

One more step, and they're with the Tories where they belong.

Unless, of course, they have the guts to resign and stand for re-election.

Then they'll probably just sink without trace.
 
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Before the members tossed them overboard.

Good career move.

One more step, and they're with the Tories where they belong.

Unless, of course, they have the guts to resign and stand for re-election.

Then they'll probably just sink without trace.
So you think they didnt leave labour because corbyn isnt offering a referendum? They really dont want a referendum and corbyn does but for some reason corbyn wont offer it so they lie and complain the reason they are leaving is he wont offer it even though they dont want him to. Do you get how stupid this logic is? Ever heard of Occams razor? And lets not even discuss the constant complaints about anti semitism that are coming from numerous sources within his own party.

You are sounding very much like a Trumpian. Like some things that you hear from Corbyn but then completely pretend his failures dont exist and are conspiracies raised by his numerous enemies in his own party and the MSM. Shouldnt we aspire to be better then Trump supporters and actually use reason and observation to form our opinions, not blind devotion and hope.
 
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So you think they didnt leave labour because corbyn isnt offering a referendum? They really dont want a referendum and corbyn does but for some reason corbyn wont offer it so they lie and complain the reason they are leaving is he wont offer it even though they dont want him to. Do you get how stupid this logic is? Ever heard of Occams razor? And lets not even discuss the constant complaints about anti semitism that are coming from numerous sources within his own party.

You are sounding very much like a Trumpian. Like some things that you hear from Corbyn but then completely pretend his failures dont exist and are conspiracies raised by his numerous enemies in his own party and the MSM. Shouldnt we aspire to be better then Trump supporters and actually use reason and observation to form our opinions, not blind devotion and hope.
Logic is only as good as your premises.
Get those wrong, and your case is built on sand.
It's no secret that they were about to be disendorsed by the members, as part of the process where the members have been taking back their party from the blairites.
That's why they left.
That's how Occam's Razor works.
 
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Is it just me or is there something weird with the Blairite rump and 'animal laws?' You go through their parliamentary record and the things that their own staff seem to be pushing as their proudest achievement in parliament is a motion against a badger hunt (actual thing), or a bill to protect dogs that have been attacked by other dogs, or another MP brought in a bill to punish bad dog owners. There's probably a good joke in here somewhere.
 
So, disingenuous it is, then. Was India not Indian land because the British 'ruled' over it? So it wasn't Palestinian land, even though they lived there, because the British 'ruled. Then they were offered half of their existing land but they 'chose' to go to war.

Playing semantics to justify occupation is not becoming.
 
Let's not be disingenuous. Or are you going to argue there wasn't an Australia for the English to take from the Aborigines? But for the record, the land where Israel now stands was officially called Palestine from 1922-1948, under the rule of the British.
It was Turkish then British with a mixture of Jews and other Egyptians Turks Bedouin and others . Let's please stick to facts there was never a independent country called palestine, as much as the racist left poster boy Corbyn imagines there was.
 
So, disingenuous it is, then. Was India not Indian land because the British 'ruled' over it? So it wasn't Palestinian land, even though they lived there, because the British 'ruled. Then they were offered half of their existing land but they 'chose' to go to war.

Playing semantics to justify occupation is not becoming.

Palestine is just something they make up to scare kids, like the Boogeyman or Michael Jackson.
 
After the Bedouin, at the cost of many of their lives, helped the British (not to mention the Anzacs) to clear the Ottomans out of their homeland during WW1.

At the end of the war the light horse couldnt bring their horses home (IIRC Chavel did though). Most of them shot their horses rather than gave them to the locals because they disliked them so much. On the other hand apparently the ANZACS and Turks actually got on well.



He continually meets with people supporting both sides in the dispute, it's called being even-handed.

Hizbollan and Hamas are "friends"
He has put a wreath at the grave of a terrorist.

On so called Zionists
“clearly have two problems. One is they don’t want to study history, and secondly, having lived in this country for a very long time, probably all their lives, they don’t understand English irony either … So I think they needed two lessons, which we can perhaps help them with.”

etc etc
 
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At the end of the war the light horse couldnt bring their horses home (IIRC Chavel did though). Most of them shot their horses rather than gave them to the locals because they disliked them so much. On the other hand apparently the ANZACS and Turks actually got on well.





Hizbollan and Hamas are "friends"
He has put a wreath at the grave of a terrorist.

On so called Zionists
“clearly have two problems. One is they don’t want to study history, and secondly, having lived in this country for a very long time, probably all their lives, they don’t understand English irony either … So I think they needed two lessons, which we can perhaps help them with.”

etc etc
A lie is a lie is a lie, no matter how often you repeat it.
I say "you", because most of even his bitterest enemies stopped spewing this one out within a few days, after it became obvious to everyone that it was a lie.
 

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