Kicking out after a behind

[Footy_Fan2007]

Is it just me, or does everyone else think we seem to struggle to kick the ball out after a behind is kicked by the opposition? We have struggled most of the year with this and it worries me a bit. Yesterday was another example. Josh Hunt is a very big out in my opinion. Im not sure how they are going to fix the problem.

 

[TheTimeCometh]

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i concur.


hardly ever do we release a player from the one kick O50.

 

[goodoldcats]

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what worries me is we kick it to a one on two or a one on three on the wing.

 

[alfy!]

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Yeah, that is the one area of our game that fustrates me week in, week out. We struggle to get it to the defensive 50 metre line, and concede quite a few scoring shots from there.

 

[CF]

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we need Josh Hunt back

 

[Spluff]

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I believe that this is why you guys dropped back Ablett over the past few weeks (much to the irritation of many), because his ability to draw the players and release another player into space allows you to get a free run out of defence.

 

[True Blue Cat]

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At the start of the year we struggled immensely being so used to having Hunt doing the kicking in. After a few games the defenders finally started to get used to it though. I think our kicking in is less about us and more about the defensive pressure of the opposition.

 

[Patronus]

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we need Josh Hunt back

I am a firm believer in this but I have always liked Hunt.

As much as everyone loved to bag him he played an important role in the team that has become glaringly obvious this year with his absence.

I wonder if the AFL are going to do anything to the Bulldogs about their cheer squad interfering in the game. Yesterday they deliberately held onto the ball until Scarlett(?) got the spare ball and then threw it onto the ground so Geelong could not play on immediately and had to wait for it to be taken back off again.

 

[re cat]

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we need Josh Hunt back

Don't we, someone that can a ball that distance is always missed. At least he will be back rd 1 2010.

 

[Nice Guy Adam]

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Good OP, I agree. Dasher doesn't really do it for me when he kicks out. We need someone more reliable by foot. Perhaps Joel Corey?

 

[eminbee]

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We struggle executing while trying not to be predictable (if that makes sense). Do I sense a not-yet-revealed plan, or is that wishful thinking? Could it be back-to-the-corridor?

 

[darren forssman]

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Good OP, I agree. Dasher doesn't really do it for me when he kicks out. We need someone more reliable by foot. Perhaps Joel Corey?

is this comedy?

corey's kicking isnt a feature of his game.

 

[Tonycam*]

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did anyone see Matty Scarlett kick the spare ball back and kick it into the Bulldogs cheersquad , they were not happy , thought it was a pissa

 

[catattack007]

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did anyone see Matty Scarlett kick the spare ball back and kick it into the Bulldogs cheersquad , they were not happy , thought it was a pissa

Absolute pissa!!!!

I reckon dasher drilled it at them as well.....

 

[Tonycam*]

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Absolute pissa!!!!

I reckon dasher drilled it at them as well.....

They went off there nut , screaming at him over the fence. Scarlo just turned and went on with the job as if they wernt there. funny stuff

 

[Duskfire]

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Hunt was a very under-appreciated player; its annoying that he has had his reputation tarnished by the whole ducking scenerio because he really is an important part of our team.

Forgive me if I am wrong but I dont recall Taylor kicking in much. He has quite a good booming kick on him.

 

[Reverse Banana]

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That's brilliant news. Scarlo definitely gets BOG now.

 

[Vdubs]

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Good OP, I agree. Dasher doesn't really do it for me when he kicks out. We need someone more reliable by foot. Perhaps Joel Corey?

Are you serious? Corey would be the last choice IMO, one of our least reliable kicks. What about Boris, or Bartel? Whoever said Hunt gets a lot of flak, I've not been aware of that, and have felt all year he is terribly missed, and wish he could have had the LARS ligament ACL reconstruction for that reason, but the results in the AFL are limited to 1 player (Malceski), so it is reasonable that he opted for the proven treatment, can't wait to get him back.

 

[cats on a tree]

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we have to Harry more often to get out.

His kicking is really reliable.

Well we don have Josh now so no need to debate.

Harry Taylor is the answer!!

 

[Nice Guy Adam]

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I was going out on a bit of a limb (read: walking the plank verbally) with the Corey suggestion obv, but my point is that we need someone other than the current choices.

 

[Patronus]

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we have to Harry more often to get out.

His kicking is really reliable.

Well we don have Josh now so no need to debate.

Harry Taylor is the answer!!

The problem is Harry can take a good strong pack mark when needed to so he may be more important as a receiver, in a clinch, that the person to kick it out.

 

[True Blue Cat]

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is this comedy?

corey's kicking isnt a feature of his game.

It almost made me laugh.. Mackie is a long accurate kick but to kick it long you have to be aware that it will be contested which we generally win but sometimes we don't. Not much else we can do. So i don't think having Taylor kick in would help at all as they can both kick the distance and yet it doesn't work any worse for Mackie than it would for Taylor.

It all comes down to your opponents defense. If you start picking them apart around the field eventually gaps form and it becomes rather easy to kick it in. Against quality teams though it is difficult just like how other teams often struggle when kicking it in against us.

 

[selwould]

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It almost made me laugh.. Mackie is a long accurate kick but to kick it long you have to be aware that it will be contested which we generally win but sometimes we don't. Not much else we can do. So i don't think having Taylor kick in would help at all as they can both kick the distance and yet it doesn't work any worse for Mackie than it would for Taylor.

It all comes down to your opponents defense. If you start picking them apart around the field eventually gaps form and it becomes rather easy to kick it in. Against quality teams though it is difficult just like how other teams often struggle when kicking it in against us.

I think the cats do have a strategy, several times a game they kick to the pocket and then back to full back and then up the middle, dasher is quite often the target or one of the midfielders pushing deep. Then if that guy doesn't have a clear player they will switch it.

The difficulty with this strategy is that it doesn't alter the defensive zone unless they push onto the side of the original kick and you can switch. It is a great plan A and was shown on the weekend when wojo ran out through CHB however there doesn't seem to be a plan B and plan A takes a long time to execute so if it doesn't work you are in trouble and have to slow it right down which happened alot against the dogs.

I wouldn't mind the odd long kick to a contested situation on the flank sometimes to break it up.

Sorry this is a long winded explanation but i have been watching it closely in the last couple of months

 

[Footy_Fan2007]

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It almost made me laugh.. Mackie is a long accurate kick but to kick it long you have to be aware that it will be contested which we generally win but sometimes we don't. Not much else we can do. So i don't think having Taylor kick in would help at all as they can both kick the distance and yet it doesn't work any worse for Mackie than it would for Taylor.

It all comes down to your opponents defense. If you start picking them apart around the field eventually gaps form and it becomes rather easy to kick it in. Against quality teams though it is difficult just like how other teams often struggle when kicking it in against us.

I think other teams kick out pretty well against us. It was noted last year that the Hawks rushed all those behinds because they knew Geelong were lazy when a team kicks out against them.

The players like putting ourselves under enormous pressure for some reason.

 

[Brasil2007]

Worth remembering our big game contested mark - Otto - has also been missing all year. With him there there's an extra option from the kick out. Wouldn't want to see it used too often and would have to choose wisely when to use it but it's there nonetheless.