Lance Franklin V Jarrad Waite

[unit27]

Buddy at his best is better than Waite. Everyone here is saying that Waite is inconsistent when Waite is much more consistent than buddy. Waite has shut down Reiwoldt, Richo and Lucas this year and has still managed to boot around 20 goals or somewhere around the mark. Franklin has had a couple of good games where he has kicked 9 and 6 but other than that there hasnt been much talk about him, dont get me wrong though i think he is a fantastic talent.

If i was a coach id take Waite for now but for the future id say Buddy will be better and we might see a brownlow around his neck in the next couple of years.

 

[dutchy12]

So if you are 24 years old and you aren't at your peak, you can't impove?


HA!

I'm just saying you can't keep associating him with the word "potential" for ever. He better start delivering super star status soon if he's ever going to get that

 

[peter1979]

i would prefer waite as he is more an all rounder, however franklin is younger and has more time.
For those out there that continue to ask where waite was 4 years earlier, um if anybody buys the football record guide at the start of each season, then they would considerably note that waite and brad fisher were injured.
Waite had a knee reconstruction, and missed pretty much the entire 2003 season, and missed alot of 2004.
if u read up on players profiles and listen to what experts like frawley, parkin, shaw, carey, brereton then u would realise that they always said that if carlton could get a fit and firing fisher and waite in their forward line alongside fevola they would be the most dangerous.
i have said since reading their profiles that they would be guns and we are 2nd on for most points scored.
franklin has yet to suffer any serious injuries, and to see how it would affect his skill level.
waite was an even better talent before he got injured, which puts him ahead of franklin.
Remember when waite played his first proper season in 05 a game against the hawks he booted 5 and if not for innaccuracy would have kicked 9.
Jason dunstall and bruce macavaney both quoted that waite was a reptile who was a much more impossible match up than franklin.
Now thats coming from the hawthorn teams triple coleman medallist and club legend.
I would overall choose lance basically cause he is younger and never been injured.
as for richmond having a crack, too bad u overlooked him and now wish u could have him, why not start a new thread franklin versus tambling?

 

[peter1979]

Don't worry, there is a very big chance carlton won't win a game in the next 2-4 weeks, so all the bandwagon jumpers will crawl on back to the board of hate, to wallow in their misery.

The calrton threads will dry up then and the REAL BF carlton supporters will be here to contribute their realistic and valued reponses.

u got hell of a big mouth on u pal.
care to revise what u said, um we mightn win another game but we get remember the best comeback of the year, against ur mob,
care to play us again, oh yeah u will, this time there will be no headstarts, as waite fisher cloke fevola and betts will all be playing.
ur getting too cocky for ur own good.

 

[peter1979]

Imagine winning enough games to make the finals

imagine scoring enough drugs to supply ur mob on game day.
hey everyone the drug cheats are on.

 

[Merv]

u got hell of a big mouth on u pal.
care to revise what u said, um we mightn win another game but we get remember the best comeback of the year, against ur mob,
care to play us again, oh yeah u will, this time there will be no headstarts, as waite fisher cloke fevola and betts will all be playing.
ur getting too cocky for ur own good.

I am not your pal

I might have to revise that, as with it looking like franklin is out tonight, i would think carlton will win now.


You might want to check your clubs injury reports.

Pretty sure ALL those players played in the last game along with Stevens.

 

[Magpie Mick]

Get real! what a joke of a poll! Buddy is an absolute gun (who will be better than Dermie) Vs Waite a talentless hack...

 

[Philhawk]

Get real! what a joke of a poll! Buddy is an absolute gun (who will be better than Dermie) Vs Waite a talentless hack...

Are you serious? Waite is a gun who was forced to move down back to stem the flow and was provided with no ball from the midfield after half-time.

He's going to be an awesome player for Carlton.

 

[weagles_fan]

Waite will be a pretty good player where as Franklin will be a superstar.

 

[wce4premiership]

imagine scoring enough drugs to supply ur mob on game day.
hey everyone the drug cheats are on.

imagine being in premiership contention this year...

 

[davey_magik]

How about a poll Franklin V Waite V "Entire talent on Dees list". Think the Dees would be last with margin.

McLean > Walker. Move on parrot.

 

[Upgrayedd]

McLean > Walker. Move on parrot.

carlton were on the end of a 100 point hiding, he wont see that post untill people forget about it

 

[dutchy12]

mclean is better than walker, but by no means is walker a dud would gladly have him in my side

 

[Jeremias]

Get real! what a joke of a poll! Buddy is an absolute gun (who will be better than Dermie) Vs Waite a talentless hack...

You posted in the wrong thread.

I believe you were looking for the Lance Franklin vs Chris Bryan poll.

 

[Pessimistic]

I think waite beat buddy on friday... but only just

 

[peter1979]

I am not your pal

I might have to revise that, as with it looking like franklin is out tonight, i would think carlton will win now.


You might want to check your clubs injury reports.

Pretty sure ALL those players played in the last game along with Stevens.

i didnt say u were my pal, i meant ur like pal the dog meat u moron.

 

[peter1979]

imagine being in premiership contention this year...

um yeah we were in the 1990s and the eighties, i hnew better than u.
actually u arent in contention, as its the hawks and the cats, who both beat u.
hey everybody notice the eagles arent up to scratch when they dont have cousins providing them scores of drugs.

 

[Strapping Young Lad]

This really shouldn't be close.
Franklin has done more in the last 12 rounds than Waite has done in his entire career.
Franklin by a fair stretch atm.

 

[peter1979]

This really shouldn't be close.
Franklin has done more in the last 12 rounds than Waite has done in his entire career.
Franklin by a fair stretch atm.

not true, waite has done more than franklin, considering he has played a more versatile role, defence, foward, and middle.
taking on brown, rocca and riewoldt are by no means small feats.
waite was injured and missed the entire 2003 and most of 2004 season.
be fair there and realise that buddy is a super talent, but so too is waite, just really staring to establish himself.
like to know when renouf will star, sounds like abit a warrior.

 

[peter1979]

hawks and cats in the big one, same result as 1989 grand final.
geelong choke as usual

 

[peter1979]

mclean is better than walker, but by no means is walker a dud would gladly have him in my side

mclean easily better than walker, easily

 

[moistie]

It's amusing to look at the list of people who have voted for Waite. Most are Carlton supporters, with a handful of Essendon/Tigers/other fans who don't like Hawthorn.

 

[peter1979]

It's amusing to look at the list of people who have voted for Waite. Most are Carlton supporters, with a handful of Essendon/Tigers/other fans who don't like Hawthorn.

nah not really fair to say they dont like the hawks.
why wouldnt someone like the hawks they are a family club, and are birds of prey.
they are doing the vics proud this year, will take the cup home easily, the way they are going, as for buddy versus waite its fair to say its a close call if both were at the same age and waite was never injured, well thats another story.

 

[RED AND BLACK SOLDIER]

It's amusing to look at the list of people who have voted for Waite. Most are Carlton supporters, with a handful of Essendon/Tigers/other fans who don't like Hawthorn.

How would ones opinion of 2 players have anything to do with the clubs they play for? I hate Carlton more than Hawks for the record. The only reason Waite would have the edge is because he is more versatile and would be more important to a side.

 

[peter1979]

How would ones opinion of 2 players have anything to do with the clubs they play for? I hate Carlton more than Hawks for the record. The only reason Waite would have the edge is because he is more versatile and would be more important to a side.

exactly my point, he is far more versatile, why the need to compare him to franklin, unless theres a potential chance he even comes close.
i hate the bombers most of all, however i love hird, and who doesnt.