List Cleanup for 2017

[jinxd]

I'd delist both, look over the DFA market, look at mature agers in the draft then if that all fails take Griffin with our last rookie pick.

Like Jake Spencer from Melbourne?

 

[Joao]

Like Jake Spencer from Melbourne?

Doubt he would leave to be the no2 again.

 

[jinxd]

Doubt he would leave to be the no2 again.

I don't think there are any other FA rucks available... Unless we wait until someone gets delisted of course, and even then, we rarely pickup other clubs delisted players.

 

[Joao]

I don't think there are any other FA rucks available... Unless we wait until someone gets delisted of course, and even then, we rarely pickup other clubs delisted players.

There will probably be somebody but I don't see the point in getting them in anyway (unless they are genuinely good). Getting a journeymen involves playing the youngsters less. I am not a fan of that.

 

[jinxd]

There will probably be somebody but I don't see the point in getting them in anyway (unless they are genuinely good). Getting a journeymen involves playing the youngsters less. I am not a fan of that.

So who would you have as our backup ruckman (besides Sandi)?

 

[meima]

So who would you have as our backup ruckman (besides Sandi)?

Sean Darcy .

 

[Eski3]

We do have a history of rookie drafting players after delisting them. I can see us proposing something similar to Clarke

 

[jinxd]

Sean Darcy .

So we have Sean Darcy... And Sean Darcy. Ok.

 

[Joao]

So who would you have as our backup ruckman (besides Sandi)?

Tabs, Ape (if and only if knees can cope), Nads, Cox and Johnno (if he stays on)

Ideally we recruit another Nads type. Ie ruck who can clunk and is useful forward. If he happens to have a mature enough body to compete for a game or 2 at AFL level then he slots in before Tabs.

Just to clarify, I am perfectly aware we would get smashed in the ruck with any of those blokes playing, but I prefer that scenario to not giving development time to Nads/new recruit. Ideally Sandi and Darcy ruck between them the whole 22 games but of course it is unlikely.

 

[jinxd]

Ok... That was my point:
- Ape is perpetually injured...
_ Tabs may not be here next year (OOC)
- Johnno and Sandi will most likely retire next year
So, if we delist Clarke and Griffin... We'd need someone to help Darcy out... Nads has been playing Peel reserves, so he looks a little way off AFL standard ... and Cox is still learning too ... I think we should pickup an experienced ruckman just to help these guys out.

 

[meima]

Ok... That was my point:
- Ape is perpetually injured...
_ Tabs may not be here next year (OOC)
- Johnno and Sandi will most likely retire next year
So, if we delist Clarke and Griffin... We'd need someone to help Darcy out... Nads has been playing Peel reserves, so he looks a little way off AFL standard ... and Cox is still learning too ... I think we should pickup an experienced ruckman just to help these guys out.

Well up to you , if you think that is good for Freo going forward .
In the end if it did not work you and me lost nothing in it.

 

[FreoRicci]

Chose computer generated music over an AFL career.

That day changed his career. Very stupid decision that.

 

[Unique Name]

Was this year's preseason the first time we had trialled Tabs in the ruck? Another preseason practicing with Darcy amd Sandi might help him not be such a liability in the ruck, where as Cox will always struggle due to his lack of height compared to other rucks.

Sandi and Darcy will be our main two rucks for the year.

Strnadica and Apeness to share the Peel load. If both Sandi and Darcy go down for Freo then Strnadica/Apeness step up.

 

[dockerfemme]

Was this year's preseason the first time we had trialled Tabs in the ruck? Another preseason practicing with Darcy amd Sandi might help him not be such a liability in the ruck, where as Cox will always struggle due to his lack of height compared to other rucks.

Sandi and Darcy will be our main two rucks for the year.

Strnadica and Apeness to share the Peel load. If both Sandi and Darcy go down for Freo then Strnadica/Apeness step up.

I checked back and I provided a training report that included mention of Tabs taking part in ruck training in July 2016.

 

[wehavethepassion]

Clarke doesn't offer us much anymore. His heart and passion has left and he ll get easier dominated in the ruck nowadays. Time to cut our losses with him.

His knees are F***ed. Cya later. Also Griffin stays on will stifle opportunities for Strnadica and Apeness(provided fit) in the ruck.
Also what will club impose on Johnson when he is re-signed for 1 more yr but is found guilty of assault in Oct? If Alex is fit then Johnson needs to be a depth only

 

[Cobbler]

I think they gave Clarke 1 year and provided surgery and that's that.

They knew his knees were buggered and squeezed a few games out of him IMO.

Anyone who watched him could visibly see he was in pain and couldn't get out of second gear last year.

 

[Vintage]

I would have thought a second rounder was reasonable for Balic. He was drafted there, if anything has shown more as has fixed the wrist issue and played some good footy. I would have thought a few Melb teams would look at him and offer around the pick 30-40 mark. This is assuming there is nothing sinister in the personal leave issue.

Who would offer a second rounder for an injured and injury prone youngster who has taken extended personal leave this year?

We would be outraged if supporters of another club suggested freo should pay that in the opposite position.

Pick 60+ at best I reckon.

 

[Vintage]

I think they gave Clarke 1 year and provided surgery and that's that.

They knew his knees were buggered and squeezed a few games out of him IMO.

Anyone who watched him could visibly see he was in pain and couldn't get out of second gear last year.

Yep, it's a shame - he cops a hard time on here, but his knees just aren't up to it, not his fault.

 

[meima]

Ballas will stay , look awkward to cut him now.
http://www.fremantlefc.com.au/news/2017-08-30/ballantyne-plays-mentor-to-key-prospect

 

[Superkoops]

but his knees just aren't up to it, not his fault.

Crowd surfing didn't help.

If people are deadset on having someone like Griffin or Clarke then I'd ditch them both and pick up FA Casboult. He offers a lot more. As mentioned continue to develop Tabs rucking and we would have plenty of ruck depth.

I think Apeness won't ruck in centre square very often. He can do some rucking duties in the forward half (with very rare presence in centre square) but will spend most of his time from FF.

 

[Carnthedockers]

Strnadica needs to play as Peels no1 or no2 and he isn't doing that with Griffen or Clarke on the list.


How does having an injured Clarke change the number of available ruckmen?

I'd delist both. If I had to keep 1 it is Griffen since he can actually get on the park. Having Clarke on the list these days just takes up a list spot.

I am totally fine with us playing a makeshift ruckman in a few AFL games rather than stalling Nads/new ruckman's development just to keep Clarke of Griffen on the list.

Im pretty sure clarke will be good to go next year, he has already been out for a year.

 

[Joao]

Im pretty sure clarke will be good to go next year, he has already been out for a year.

Hopefully he can find his new found fitness to find a new club.

We have moved on IMO.

 

[Unique Name]

Crowd surfing didn't help.

If people are deadset on having someone like Griffin or Clarke then I'd ditch them both and pick up FA Casboult. He offers a lot more. As mentioned continue to develop Tabs rucking and we would have plenty of ruck depth.

I think Apeness won't ruck in centre square very often. He can do some rucking duties in the forward half (with very rare presence in centre square) but will spend most of his time from FF.

I've switched sides and I'm now in the delist both Griff and Clarke.

Sandi - Darcy - Apeness - Strnadica is fine. If our injuries are that bad that we need a 5th string ruck the season's probably shot anyway.

But Clarke will probably cost $80-120k for a year as a rookie.

Casboult would be upwards of $500k a year.

 

[FreoRicci]

Ballas will stay , look awkward to cut him now.
http://www.fremantlefc.com.au/news/2017-08-30/ballantyne-plays-mentor-to-key-prospect

Then stay as an assistant coach? Ffs, didn't know we re keeping 30+ year old 'mentors' during rebuild. Just a flash word to keep Ballas. Ross will justify that one

 

[Scham]

3 ruckmen (Sandi, Darcy, Strnadica) on the list plus Ape, Cox and Tabs is heaps and more than most clubs have but if Ape is too risky then I'd list Gault if he's up for another go at AFL.