List Mgmt. List Management Thread

[WeeBlake]

He certainly could be a good Tex replacement, but why would you want to waste that profile as a second/third KPF?

It’s not wasted if he’s dominant. I agree it would be good to get him into the midfield at some point, if that’s what you’re suggesting.

 

[Vader]

Fritsch is a leading/marking medium fwd. We need a small, high pressure, goal kicking fwd.

I partially agree. We do need a small, high pressure, goal kicking fwd.

However, with Tex likely to retire at the end of the year, we probably have another opening where Fritsch could fit in.

While the 3 headed monster works well for us this year, with Tex/Fog/Thilthorpe, there are no guarantees that a Turray/Fog/Thilthorpe combination would work as well. We may be better off re-structuring our forward line, replacing Tex with the slighter leading/marking forward in Fritsch.

Of course, this goes out the window if Tex decides to continue playing in 2026...

 

[Peter Doherty]

Fritsch is miles in front of a fit McAdam. He is better in pretty much every facet of the game

I think you're massively overestating how soft Fritsch is. He offers more defensive and contested work than Fogarty this year (statistically). He's also a bigger marking threat than McAdam, who probably only has him covered in tackles and that's it. Fritsch is a much bigger offensive weapon than Shane too.

It's a personal choice in a hypothetical (McAdam is done).

There's not many players you watch in a game that actually stand out as soft. He does.

 

[Alwaysacrow]

Just on FC or somewhere last night, I heard Essendon were rubbing their hands together, hoping Draper goes for big $$$ and they get a priority pick 6 or thereabouts.

I can't stand the thought of him kicking for goal for Crow's 5 metres out and doing a banana.

 

[Golumless]

It’s not wasted if he’s dominant. I agree it would be good to get him into the midfield at some point, if that’s what you’re suggesting.

Even then, he is because Riley Thilthorpe exists. It's a robbing Peter to pay Paul scenario if we're trying to put another dominant performer into that sector seeing how much supply matters. Unpredictability can quickly become a bad thing when you have elite talents.

I think for Curtin, it's clear that wing/inside midfield is the way forward here. He's growing a reputation where we want him where the game is at his hottest. Plus it would be a damn shame to lose his defensive play (and I can't imagine there are too many players who enjoy seeing Curtin 40 m ahead of the ball)

With Tex's replacement? We really just need a warm body who'll compete aerially. Personally I like the Turray route as that potentially gives a way for us to get rid of Thilthorpes ruck minutes and turn Thilly into more of a focal point with our attacking plays.

 

[spenze]

Just on FC or somewhere last night, I heard Essendon were rubbing their hands together, hoping Draper goes for big $$$ and they get a priority pick 6 or thereabouts.

Of course they would, early picks gives Essendon fans hope of a turnaround.

Sadly, it'll be a rinse and repeat because it is not the year to bank picks in a compromised draft

 

[FR0GGY]

Of course they would, early picks gives Essendon fans hope of a turnaround.

Sadly, it'll be a rinse and repeat because it is not the year to bank picks in a compromised draft

They’ve already got 2 single digit picks but from what I understand they’ve got academy prospects so they won’t want them swallowed up.

 

[Eddie Murphy]

Fritsch is a leading/marking medium fwd. We need a small, high pressure, goal kicking fwd.

Depends how we want to structure our (presumably Texless) 2026 forward line. Fritsch would be a nice mediary between our talls and smalls that can help aerially and at ground level. I don’t think we should be spending a lot for a Tex replacement or Taylor/Pedlar upgrade - that should be going to more pressing needs. If he’s cheap I’d be all over him.

 

[PeterSalt]

Just on FC or somewhere last night, I heard Essendon were rubbing their hands together, hoping Draper goes for big $$$ and they get a priority pick 6 or thereabouts.

lol .. I'd be lying if I didn't find the media in general just accepting or in some cases promoting these scenarios (except Barrett) mildly irritating

Sure, Brad had an injury history and a few indiscretions. But band 3 compared to the an injured band 1 Draper and Allen this year. And that spud McKay the other year

 

[Crow till I die]

IF we don;t end up sorting a deal for NWM and he wants to go elsewhere, I have to say from the very small sample I saw on the weekend, I was impressed with Cook coming in and playing what looked to be a wing. His field kicking looked great and he offered something there imo. SO he is a guy that I had all but written off thinking his ship had sailed but what he showed in a very small sample albeit looked good. I am keen to see him again in a similar role once he is cleared to play again.

 

[Mutineer]

So according to Twomey Brisbane are seriously chasing both Sam Draper and Reilly O'Brien

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Reilly O'brien

Age

30

Ht

201cm

Wt

105kg

Pos.

Ruck

Career

Season

Last 5

D

14.4

4star

K

5.9

2star

HB

8.5

5star

CL

1.6

4star

HO

23.8

5star

D

14.4

3star

K

5.9

2star

HB

8.5

4star

CL

1.6

4star

HO

23.8

5star

D

12.6

4star

K

4.8

2star

HB

7.8

5star

CL

1.0

3star

HO

24.8

5star

so it's becoming very complicated. So we won't be having both as someone on here suggested yesterday, it will be one or the other, personally I hope we keep ROB.

 

[Viva la Mattner]

So according to Twomey Brisbane are seriously chasing both Sam Draper and Reilly O'Brien so it's becoming very complicated. So we won't be having both as someone on here suggested yesterday, it will be one or the other, personally I hope we keep ROB.

You would think we'd have tabled an offer to ROB to stay by now

So it would appear
ROB > Bris
Draper > Adel

 

[jo172]

You would think we'd have tabled an offer to ROB to stay by now

So it would appear
ROB > Bris
Draper > Adel

Isn't it widely reported we have made an offer, just not one he wants to accept?

 

[Viva la Mattner]

Isn't it widely reported we have made an offer, just not one he wants to accept?

Yep - lowballing $$ and the # of years
Effectively pushing him out so he looks elsewhere


Get the feeling we have had Draper sewn up for months and have been stringing ROB along

 

[fossilllCrow]

Yep hopefully stays and continues this form. Boost his cash but keep to 2 years.
Draper can go to brissey and let’s spend the cash on a mid/mid size tackling fwd.

 

[Scorpus]

ROB is a better player than Draper even when ROB is out of form and Draper is in peak form

 

[TBM]

ROB has seriously gone up a notch in recent weeks, and worthy of an improved offer. Not sold on Draper at all.

I do think Henry Smith would be a shrewd pick up, and be primed to be ROB's eventual successor.

 

[Viva la Mattner]

ROB has seriously gone up a notch in recent weeks, and worthy of an improved offer. Not sold on Draper at all.

I do think Henry Smith would be a shrewd pick up, and be primed to be ROB's eventual successor.

Question is will ROB regress if we were to cough up a decent deal

 

[Crow till I die]

ROB is a better player than Draper even when ROB is out of form and Draper is in peak form

If we let ROB go to get Draper.......FFS

 

[Mutineer]

You would think we'd have tabled an offer to ROB to stay by now

So it would appear
ROB > Bris
Draper > Adel

Strange isn't it that the successful Premiership team and again serious contenders the Brisbane Lions and highly competent list manager Dom Ambrogio rate ROB way more than some Adelaide supporters.

 

[fossilllCrow]

Hopefully if we boost the money Robs long term journey and now hopeful future success keeps him here. Seems like he enjoys the club!

 

[Drugs Are Bad Mackay?]

There's obviously a squeeze on our salary cap coming up soon given the profile of our squad

There's been zero salary cap pressure coming from performance the last 5 years. Easy to fit everyone in, NO ONE demanding higher dollars through their output, no clubs knocking on the door for our players and pushing up salaries, plenty of cap room to target recruits.

The worm has turned.

Now we have quite a few players performing well, some of our better prospects are moving off their rookie deals/early career deals, some of our players would garner interest elsewhere.

Reid has done it well by locking some younger players away on long term deals before their performances blew up.

Something has to give though and maybe we've decided that it's ruck. We have to save money somewhere.

Wave goodbye to ROB, McAndrew c'mon down and hopefully try to pinch a fringe 20-23yo developing ruck from elsewhere.

Us allegedly targeting Draper would go against this theory mind you, but hopefully it just means we've since come to our senses

 

[Crow till I die]

There's obviously a squeeze on our salary cap coming up soon given the profile of our squad

There's been zero salary cap pressure coming from performance the last 5 years. Easy to fit everyone in, NO ONE demanding higher dollars through their output, no clubs knocking on the door for our players and pushing up salaries, plenty of cap room to target recruits.

The worm has turned.

Now we have quite a few players performing well, some of our better prospects are moving off their rookie deals/early career deals, some of our players would garner interest elsewhere.

Reid has done it well by locking some younger players away on long term deals before their performances blew up.

Something has to give though and maybe we've decided that it's ruck. We have to save money somewhere.

Wave goodbye to ROB, McAndrew c'mon down and hopefully try to pinch a fringe 20-23yo developing ruck from elsewhere.

Us allegedly targeting Draper would go against this theory mind you, but hopefully it just means we've since come to our senses

word from Twomey on Gettable was that port and ourselves might be frontloading our offers to NWM anywhere up to around $2 million per year for the first few years. Thats some salary cap squeeze we have (if Twomey is right of course)

 

[jo172]

Wave goodbye to ROB, McAndrew c'mon down and hopefully try to pinch a fringe 20-23yo developing ruck from elsewhere.

Us allegedly targeting Draper would go against this theory mind you, but hopefully it just means we've since come to our senses

See this logic I could get behind. If we just decided that we could get 75% of the output for 50% of the cost and this was a good value proposition, so be it, roll the dice.

Paying Draper 100% (or more) of ROB's value for less of the output is just mad.

 

[GreyCrow]

Yep

Paying Draper 900k for 4 years or RoB 700k for 3 years seems like a no-brainer

Both may well coast but at least one is coasting cheaper