Malceski and Hall

[western swan]

AHAHAHA HE HAS STIPPLES
good one baz

 

[liz]

What's the blue thingy around his neck and shoulders? I've seen guys wearing them before but I don't know what they are.

GPS monitor. Tracking how far he's running, but also other data like heart rate and intensity.

 

[rancidpants13]

GPS monitor. Tracking how far he's running, but also other data like heart rate and intensity.

intensity? ha, they could take a reading from staker

 

[ssfc0203]

intensity? ha, they could take a reading from staker

I'd pay good money to see what Hunter went through, actually

 

[Skystyler]

Why is Mal running in socks? Doesn't he realise how hard those bastards will be to clean?

My wife put our son on the naughty chair for the same thing only yesterday. He better not let his mum see that photo.

 

[XFactor1979]

i was going to say that the wrist he injured was the same side as the one he used to hit staker

malceski is an interesting story, it would be horrible if it werent to pay off, i remembered melbourne's david schwarz once trying something revolutionary and radical designed for american sports but it didnt pay off

 

[is2SWaNz]

i was going to say that the wrist he injured was the same side as the one he used to hit staker

No, Baz used his left to hit staker. His injured wrist is on the right.

 

[XFactor1979]

No, Baz used his left to hit staker. His injured wrist is on the right.

it would have been some form of unusual karma if it was

 

[is2SWaNz]

it would have been some form of unusual karma if it was

Well there you go, it was unusual karma that got Baz hurting.

 

[bedford]

i was going to say that the wrist he injured was the same side as the one he used to hit staker

malceski is an interesting story, it would be horrible if it werent to pay off, i remembered melbourne's david schwarz once trying something revolutionary and radical designed for american sports but it didnt pay off

THE OX HAD BRAIN SURGERY

 

[EatBig Australia]

From Realfooty

WHILE a controversial surgical technique could ensure Nick Malceski returns from what would normally be a season-ending knee injury this weekend after just three months on the sidelines, an old-fashioned stomach bug yesterday meant the Swans defender was unable to endure his toughest test to date.
Malceski had been scheduled to undergo 10 minutes of tackling drills at the end of a light training session on the SCG. But feeling dizzy after a bout of gastro, he left the track early and the Swans' coaching and fitness staff will have to wait until tomorrow to see how the line-breaking defender fares under duress.
Given the radical nature of Malceski's surgery, during which a synthetic fibre was used to repair his damaged anterior cruciate ligament, hearts will be in mouths when he endures his first full-contact session. With some experts having questioned the wisdom of adopting the technique pioneered in Europe, the Swans are well aware they will receive heavy criticism if the 23-year-old goes down again.
However, so successful has Malceski's rehabilitation been since he injured the knee in a pre-season match in Hobart on February 17, and such is his importance to the Swans' prospects, coach Paul Roos does not rule out selecting him for Sunday's match against Essendon at ANZ Stadium.
"I haven't really given that a lot of thought," said Roos. "We'll see how he gets through the work at training on Wednesday and Friday before making any decisions. But the hope was that he would play (either seniors or reserves) if he gets through OK."

 

[magic.merkin]

damn.

/fingers crossed.

i'd rather see him having a few 50% games in the ressies before a full game and then seniors consideration

 

[is2SWaNz]

Same. I rather have Malceski have a couple of games to get himself back into footy mode. The radical surgery is giving me doubts, fingers and toes crossed the surgery in the long term won't affect his knee at all in the future.

 

[rancidpants13]

Same. I rather have Malceski have a couple of games to get himself back into footy mode. The radical surgery is giving me doubts, fingers and toes crossed the surgery in the long term won't affect his knee at all in the future.

he's as much chance of the knee going in firsts as reserves, or even a run in the park
his fitness generally will be okay, i'm sure

 

[magic.merkin]

he's as much chance of the knee going in firsts as reserves, or even a run in the park

well no.

yes a knee can be done in any sport at any level. but when you take away all the random chances it could go wrong, the sports being the same etc, there is a difference:

AFL seniors is alot harder, alot faster than canberra's league, so yes in theory it could happen in the 2s, but it will have a higher chance in the 1's. the only things that would be higher in the 2's are; hacks running across his knee and dodgy ground surfaces.

i'd be interested to see stats of AFL knee injury averages overlayed against other comps.

anyway some mental and match fitness in 2's would do him better in my opinion.

 

[Mick Oxlong]

well no.

yes a knee can be done in any sport at any level. but when you take away all the random chances it could go wrong, the sports being the same etc, there is a difference:

AFL seniors is alot harder, alot faster than canberra's league, so yes in theory it could happen in the 2s, but it will have a higher chance in the 1's. the only things that would be higher in the 2's are; hacks running across his knee and dodgy ground surfaces.

i'd be interested to see stats of AFL knee injury averages overlayed against other comps.

anyway some mental and match fitness in 2's would do him better in my opinion.

I think you've got hold of your gherkin there merkin! The odds of reinjury are exactly the same, no matter what level you're playing at...either you do it, or you don't

 

[rancidpants13]

I think you've got hold of your gherkin there merkin! The odds of reinjury are exactly the same, no matter what level you're playing at...either you do it, or you don't

thanks mate
i was reading the merkin's response and getting annoyed
you've saved me the trouble of making a prat of meself

 

[liz]

The short-term injury risks aren't just him re-injuring his knee though. He's had hamstring issues in the past and there must be a slightly higher risk of him having problems in that area if he steps straight into an AFL-intensity game with no match practice behind him.

The other advantage of him playing at least one game with the magoos is that it is much easier to manage how much game time he gets in his first game back without it compromising the rotations. When players play their first pre-season game of the year it is usually stipulated (by the medics) how much time they spend on the ground. And it was clear from reports of Spida's first game back that he played a pre-determined length of time and wasn't sent back on even though Currie had injured himself.

 

[ssfc0203]

Dodgy ground surfaces ?


Every home game they play is at the same venue 2 hours before a senior game ..

 

[DeadlyAkkuret]

Did the Eski steal his left leg from a dead body? Looks so pale in that first picture.

 

[Lakeside Legacy]

The short-term injury risks aren't just him re-injuring his knee though. He's had hamstring issues in the past and there must be a slightly higher risk of him having problems in that area if he steps straight into an AFL-intensity game with no match practice behind him.

Liz, the hamstring issues that the "eski" has experienced in the past probably stem from the hamstring grafts used to replicate the ACL in his previous two re-co's.

Hopefully with the synthetic industrial fibre graft used this time to replicate the ACL, eski won't experience the problems from a hamstring graft as he would have had previously.

I agree, he will be short of a gallop and probabaly needs to come through the two's for a couple of games to blow out a few of the cobwebs.

 

[liz]

He's only had one previous reco, hasn't he?

Not sure we can say that the previous hamstring problems he's had have anything to do with the previous graft, though. It's not as if they've been chronic issues, and many players get hamstring problems irrespective of whether they've had a reco or not.

 

[Lakeside Legacy]

He's only had one previous reco, hasn't he?

Not sure we can say that the previous hamstring problems he's had have anything to do with the previous graft, though. It's not as if they've been chronic issues, and many players get hamstring problems irrespective of whether they've had a reco or not.

Liz, you are absolutely right in regards to the hamstring issues but sometimes after a hamstring graft the other hamstring issues can occur. I might have been a bit over zealous in suggesting this was malceski's 3rd re-co. This is infact esk's 2nd Re-co and I believe this was a major catalyst behind him trying this revolutionary type of surgery this time because of the projected shorter recovery time after having been through the 12 month + re-hab with his previous re-co.

Let's hope whenever he does comes back he is injury free from here on.

 

[magic.merkin]

I think you've got hold of your gherkin there merkin! The odds of reinjury are exactly the same, no matter what level you're playing at...either you do it, or you don't

im sorry but that doesn't make sense.

how are the odd's the same?

playing football against 18 other men, on a dodgy knee these are the similarities.

add to that mix, differing intensity levels, speed and game time and i see some factors that will increase the chances of something else happening in the ones

 

[magic.merkin]

Dodgy ground surfaces ?


Every home game they play is at the same venue 2 hours before a senior game ..

i thought they played down in canberra, sorry if i'm wrong.

i seem to be lately