Martin Clarke v Bryce Gibbs

[Mondeo]

I have watched Clarke play against us twice and he is a good all-round footballer - certainly no squibb. Whilst Gibbs is a good second year player, improving all the time, he has a long way to go before to reaches the standards set by Ablett, Bartell and Selwood before he becomes 'elite' as someone has suggested. I would be happy with either or both of them.

 

[Nardz]

I suggest you watch Marty Clarke V Blues in the first game in the last 1/4. Simmo ran off him easily and kicked the sealer. Marty ain't so fast, and it cost you the game. Did several trademark round-ball floater kicks in that game as well, providing turnover opportunity. Similar efforts V North a few weeks latter when they over-ran you in the last. Again North's small forwards exposed Marty's lack of leg speed, and suspect disposal/decision making. I could give you numerous other examples. He's a battler with weaknesses that the opposition are now targeting big time. You should realise that by now. BTW the title of this poll always makes me laugh. I hope it stays around.

It's been mentioned numerous times already that Clarke had a slow start to the season, yet you still insist on sighting examples from the first game vs the blues this season despite the fact that it was round 4 and his 2nd game of the season - Do you have shit for brains?

 

[Faz 2000]

I have watched Clarke play against us twice and he is a good all-round footballer - certainly no squibb. Whilst Gibbs is a good second year player, improving all the time, he has a long way to go before to reaches the standards set by Ablett, Bartell and Selwood before he becomes 'elite' as someone has suggested. I would be happy with either or both of them.

If we put Selwood to one side for a moment, and proclaim him the best young player (probably with Judd) for the last xxxx years, both Bartel and Ablett took several years before becoming the players they are today. I'd say Gibbs is well on-track for a similar career progression. Most players take years before really making an impact.

How good does he get? Who knows. But he's very young and if his progress continues at its present rate, he's going to be a beauty just like those big names you mentioned.

And why I left out Selwood is because every conversation about Gibbs gets drowned out by "Selwood is better". That's fine. I agree at this stage, too. But just because there's one young player better, doesn't mean Gibbs isn't trending towards being a superstar in his own right.

It's like saying Pavlich is garbage, Riewoldt is soft, simply because Buddy is better, younger. There's room for more than one superstar!

Clarke isn't and won't be a superstar. He's a perfectly "OK" AFL player. Would sit nicely on any team's list. 12 months ago the output of Gibbs and Clarke was a reasonable comparison. I don't think it is any more, and the upside looks to be tilted heavily in favour of Gibbs.

 

[Magpie Mick]

Clarkes biggest asset is that his disposal is so good. He rarely makes a mistake and shows great composure in tight situations for a second year player. Will be a gun.

 

[parrot]

Clarkes biggest asset is that his disposal is so good. ....

lol.

 

[Azdrubal]

This is a no-brainer! Clarke is a very athletic young guy who has done very well to come into an alien game and play the role that he does. But his roles are limited; he is not an instinctive player (and you couldn't expect him to be) and his decision-making is non-existent sometimes. Gibbs on the other had is all upside and will be within a season or two one of the elite players of the competition.

 

[Silvagnis]

I have watched Clarke play against us twice and he is a good all-round footballer - certainly no squibb. Whilst Gibbs is a good second year player, improving all the time, he has a long way to go before to reaches the standards set by Ablett, Bartell and Selwood before he becomes 'elite' as someone has suggested. I would be happy with either or both of them.

Selwood isn't at the level of Bartel and Ablett when he averages the same number of disposals per game as Murphy.

Albeit in a dominant side where he doesn't have to worry about his man and isn't tagged.

Yet Murphy has had more goal assists and kicked goals than Selwood in a bottom eight side.

Gibbs will be at Selwood's level next year.

That's if he isn't already there because he's a better kick and user of the ball.

Getting in and under and winning more contested possessions doesn't make you the better footballer.

Clarke wouldn't get a game ahead of Grigg in our side when the latter has more upside, talent and athleticism.

 

[pieman123]

grigg lol i was reading on the carlton boards and carlton posters saying he was a hack

 

[mediumsizered]

grigg lol i was reading on the carlton boards and carlton posters saying he was a hack

Do you want to identify the posters in question? I would be fairly confident they are in the minority & are also the posters that are negative about many of Carlton's players.

Each team has a minority of supporters who on here, or even at games, do nothing but criticise their own team. They would be the same sort of people who criticise their partner or mother for not having dinner ready right on time. Glass half empty types.

 

[Stenchiss]

Clarke goes alright, but i get the feeling he's only good because he follows Mick's gameplan. Gibbs is going to be a star.

 

[Thrust]

Selwood isn't at the level of Bartel and Ablett when he averages the same number of disposals per game as Murphy.

Albeit in a dominant side where he doesn't have to worry about his man and isn't tagged.

Yet Murphy has had more goal assists and kicked goals than Selwood in a bottom eight side.

Gibbs will be at Selwood's level next year.

That's if he isn't already there because he's a better kick and user of the ball.

Getting in and under and winning more contested possessions doesn't make you the better footballer.

Clarke wouldn't get a game ahead of Grigg in our side when the latter has more upside, talent and athleticism.

Selwood's kicking is only slightly worse than Gibbs' which is elite, Selwood is also slightly worse with his evasive skills and overhead marking but in every other aspect Selwood is superior to Gibbs. Selwood doesn't have as many goals because he's in the centre getting contested possessions, Inside 50s and clearances not on the half forward flank.

Gibbs is a better kick but not better user of the ball, in a tight situation Selwoods composure gets him ahead but if they are in the open Gibbs is better.

 

[one_twelve112]

*bump*

 

[uptheblues]

Ironic how similar they are really....

 

[Colin D'Cops]

This poll makes me sick. Such comparisons are not valued on this forum.

Marty Clarke > Bryce Gibbs everyday of the week hands down.

 

[smiddaz123]

There wasn't a huge difference between Clarke in his first year and Gibbs in his.

It's a shame that Clarke became homesick and just didn't want to be in Australia, he was one the few players I thought had genuine star potential on our list.

Not sure what bumping this achieved....it isn't like Clarke failed due to not being good enough.

 

[anti_]

i voted for clarke, he'll have a great 2010 in Ireland.

 

[Black Flag]

Clarke had trouble getting a game in 2009. Not a bad pocket player, but not in Gibbs' stratosphere. That's no disrespect to MC... not many are.

 

[hellfire]

Clarke, just.

 

[lions_den]

Never rated Clarke, but voted for him coz of my Carlton hatred....and for lulz.

 

[nuttinbutapeanut]

i voted for clarke, he'll have a great 2010 in Ireland.

he quit last week i think

 

[SMOO]

At Gaylick or AFL???