McLeod doesn't feel like past players are welcome at the Crows

[FR0GGY]

Wasted 1st rd picks? Seriously! Take a look at other clubs. Motlop, Watts, Rockliff deals, Kern extension after extesion.

Pear have won 2 finals in about 6 years, we at least have made a gf.

Cost them nothing

 

[GrommoT]

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We are in a position where we can get funding for a $60m move from West Lakes.
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Is this still the case? Or was that contingent on the AqC option specifically?

 

[Geoffa32]

Is this still the case? Or was that contingent on the AqC option specifically?

Thebby Oval would still be close.

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[King Elvis]

I am not proclaiming us an AFL Powerhouse.

We are far from that.


Just better than one of the worst clubs in the league.

Which is a massive embarrassment, given the fact we WERE and SHOULD be a powerhouse.

Comparing ourselves to underperformers to justify our own ineptitude is weak.

 

[Geoffa32]

Which is a massive embarrassment, given the fact we WERE and SHOULD be a powerhouse.

Comparing ourselves to underperformers to justify our own ineptitude is weak.

I agree.

The fact many of us can see how bad our club is, shows our club ( and Fagan) are not snake oil merchants.




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[1970crow]

I agree.

The fact many of us can see how bad our club is, shows our club ( and Fagan) are not snake oil merchants.




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How is that the test? Becsuse we can see through the spin, they're not spinning?

 

[Geoffa32]

How is that the test? Becsuse we can see through the spin, they're not spinning?

You said Fagan was a snake oil merchant, just saying he is far from that.

Fagan is more a Houdini. Goes missing when there is bad news. Not try to sell a "silver lining".

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[1970crow]

You said Fagan was a snake oil merchant, just saying he is far from that.

Fagan is more a Houdini. Goes missing when there is bad news. Not try to sell a "silver lining".

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He's sold the baseball, esports and comm prod as financial winners, when they're not. He said his background was best in business in the right seats, it wasn't and he didn't. The promises is the snake oil, he sold it, we bought it.

 

[FR0GGY]

He's sold the baseball, esports and comm prod as financial winners, when they're not. He said his background was best in business in the right seats, it wasn't and he didn't. The promises is the snake oil, he sold it, we bought it.

Sounds like a liar

 

[Jerome]

Bunjil speaks. https://indaily.com.au/sport/footba...speaks-on-the-crows-changes-he-cannot-accept/

 

[CrowsB4hoes]

“Untenable”: Andrew McLeod speaks on the Crows changes he cannot accept - InDaily

EXCLUSIVE | Andrew McLeod is the Adelaide Football Club's longest-serving player - and to many fans, the Crows' greatest. His uneasy exit from the AFL club has inevitably mystified more than just Crows fans. He spoke exclusively to Michelangelo Rucci.

indaily.com.au

I take issue with this quote: He questions why the Crows are not prepared to “give” rather than “take” in the community where its local AFL rival Port Adelaide is gaining ground with the mantra of “make our community proud”.

Looking at the last set of financial statements for both clubs:
- Adelaide Crows donated $50,000 to its Foundation
- Port charges its foundation a "Management Fee". $200,000 in 2019, $400,000 the year before. Moneys raised by their Power Community Limited not-for-profit programs are used to subsidise the football club. And now they've closed it down and all bar 2 directors have resigned (when they are required to have a minimum of 3 directors)

A journalist might want to look into that ...

 

[Kane McGoodwin]

He's sold the baseball, esports and comm prod as financial winners, when they're not. He said his background was best in business in the right seats, it wasn't and he didn't. The promises is the snake oil, he sold it, we bought it.

Actions speak louder than words...

 

[1970crow]

Sounds like a liar

All snake oil salesman are liars but not all liars are snake oil salesman.

 

[King Elvis]

Once again, McLeod comes across as fair and measures in the article.

McLeod agreed in a text message exchange with then Crows chairman Rob Chapman that it would be in everyone’s best interest to stop the public airing of a festering internal wound.

A ****ing text message conversation?

This is pathetic - why am I not surprised that Chapman and Fagan haven’t addressed this like actual leaders.

 

[MRB37]

What has now separated him from his AFL club? “Nothing,” insists McLeod, adding the stories published in the past week are no more than a “rehash” of his assertive statements from six months ago.

Rucci says in his article that is pretty much a rehash of McLeods comments from six months ago.

 

[Eagleboy2011]

“I am not about throwing people under a bus. But I will speak up about how there has been a change in focus (at the club). It has become a corporate focus rather than a community focus.”


McLeod’s observation is in line with a former long-serving, high-ranking club official who reflects on the five-year rule of Crows chief executive Andrew Fagan saying: “He has made the club commercially stronger but culturally weaker.”


“We have lost our own beliefs during this change in focus,” adds McLeod. “We have lost our culture of family and community… and that is a sad thing.”

 

[jackster83]

“I am not about throwing people under a bus. But I will speak up about how there has been a change in focus (at the club). It has become a corporate focus rather than a community focus.”


McLeod’s observation is in line with a former long-serving, high-ranking club official who reflects on the five-year rule of Crows chief executive Andrew Fagan saying: “He has made the club commercially stronger but culturally weaker.”


“We have lost our own beliefs during this change in focus,” adds McLeod. “We have lost our culture of family and community… and that is a sad thing.”

Smart?

 

[MRB37]

Smart?

Smart is as corporate as they come.

 

[Sanders]

The current custodians of the club are not bigger than this man

he made this club

 

[mistylake]

We have a fair head start with regards to market which flows to season tickets and sponsorships. If our crew were running Port the AFL would have administrators running the show. Like that racist joke against New Zealanders. Q. How do you get a New Zealander to run a successful small business? A. Give them a successful big business and wait. That's us, we should be doing a lot better than our mates diwn the road, but reality is that we're not.

I was doing a bit of work for a Kiwi builder when I moved back down to the Noosa hinterland town of Eumundi just after the GFC. He joked once. “How do you get a $1M house in Noosa? Buy a $2M one, last year.” Which is what he’d done.
My experience was the opposite thankfully.

 

[MRB37]

Also the corporate stuff, you can blame Fagan, but he's just a symptom of the corporate banking culture that Chapman instilled as Chairman.

Don't have any great faith that Olsen will do much better, but at least he's a passionate football guy.

 

[1970crow]

“I am not about throwing people under a bus. But I will speak up about how there has been a change in focus (at the club). It has become a corporate focus rather than a community focus.”


McLeod’s observation is in line with a former long-serving, high-ranking club official who reflects on the five-year rule of Crows chief executive Andrew Fagan saying: “He has made the club commercially stronger but culturally weaker.”


“We have lost our own beliefs during this change in focus,” adds McLeod. “We have lost our culture of family and community… and that is a sad thing.”

Arguable as to whether it's commercially stronger. Especially considering the AO uplift and then further re-jig of the deal. We still have and make very little clear funds despite massive season ticket sales and sponsorship income.

 

[chickentendies]

Someone else posted that the program was receiving federal govt funding until 2018. The club chose to keep the program running and funded it themselves until CoVid struck, shutting it down. Maybe when the dust settles and football returns to normal the club may revisit the program?

Fwiw the club has full intentions of revisiting the program. Their arms were more or less tied behind their back regarding funding the program.

 

[Sanders]

oh Baccsy, Baccsy, Baccsy,

dear, sweet, naive, innocent Baccsy, bless. The world is a scary place, it’s a bit different to your story books I’m afraid. Sometimes Cinderella doesn’t get the prince

Andrew McLeod built this club. He and Malcolm Blight are the 2 handsome princes, to whom the lucky villagers can never repay their debt of gratitude.

he built this club, he is our history. I don’t care if he wants to sit on a special throne in the centre square. Just build him the dammed throne

oh and go to bed without any tea. You can stay in your room until you learn some manners!

Interestingly it now looks like most of those **** stains on our club have now left, those that thought they were more important than anyone else because they had a current payroll number and a temporary hold on a few admin jobs

maybe we can get back to valuing what was important, and starting the road to cultural recovery.

Flags fly forever, and the legends of those who won them do too.

transitory admin heroes flush like last night’s used prophylactics

Bob Hammond, Bill Sanders, John Reid etc never took their eyes off what matters, they never got confused about who and what matters, they were footy first, second and third.

hopefully the next cohort and admin intake will take their inspiration from the founding fathers of this club, and not the trumpian missteps of the last decade’s buffoons

Come back Bungie all is forgiven. And maybe even you too Tyson

 

[Southerntakeover]

Interestingly it now looks like most of those **** stains on our club have now left, those that thought they were more important than anyone else because they had a current payroll number and a temporary hold on a few admin jobs

maybe we can get back to valuing what was important, and starting the road to cultural recovery.

Flags fly forever, and the legends of those who won them do too.

transitory admin heroes flush like last night’s used prophylactics

Bob Hammond, Bill Sanders, John Reid etc never took their eyes off what matters, they never got confused about who and what matters, they were footy first, second and third.

hopefully the next cohort and admin intake will take their inspiration from the founding fathers of this club, and not the trumpian missteps of the last decade’s buffoons

Come back Bungie all is forgiven. And maybe even you too Tyson

Just sit back and wait for the seamless pivot for our departed from "they're perfect angels and would be succeeding if YOU would just stop undermining them you scum" to: "they were terrible, but it was all their fault and without them the real perfect angels will succeed if YOU just stop undermining them" etc.