Melbourne's #5 draft pick

[Falchoon]

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Melbourne's #5 draft pick

Originally posted by scooter600x

Freo gave up pick 1 for croad and the picked the guy they would have chosen anyway (Polak) at 4.

Great logic, means you still missed Judd at 4

 

[Broadbridge_20]

Originally posted by lamby29
Why would we trade Heff? He is poised to finish as high as 5th in our B&F, and it's his first year at Melbourne.

I know you don't like him, but I highly doubt he will be used as trade bait at the end of the year.

Black and pick #8 for White is the deal I'd take.

He's useless. He's a 5ft 11 version of Jeff White and the softest player on our list. Coming 5th in our best and fairest this year would be no huge feat but even so it would flatter him because I can only recall him playing one good game and that was against Geelong at Kardinia Park.

We won't trade him partly because we would look stupid trading him after trading for him only 10 months ago and partly because our clueless coaching staff see something in him.

I'd be making a move for Simon Goodwin with our #5 pick. The midfield lacks hardness but is not as bad as a lot of people are saying. If Thompson and Armstrong can develop into the players they should develop into all we're lacking is an enforcer. Simon Goodwin is that player. Would come a lot cheaper than any other player of his experience and skill and seems a little out of favour at the moment for whatever reason.

Goodwin, Yze, Johnstone, Thompson and Armstrong would be a deadly midfield combo. Better than the midfields of 2000 and 2002.

 

[Broadbridge_20]

Originally posted by footy_paul
mercuri and harvey for that #5 draft pick- essendon

Jason Johnson and Harvey for #5 and Robertson

 

[Hosko]

Jason Johnson and Harvey for #5 and Robertson

BWAHAHAHAHA!
would not trade jj for # 5 pick, would not trade harvey for robbo

 

[Fraser]

Originally posted by Hosko
would not trade harvey for robbo

 

[Jars458]

Michael Doughty Nathan Bock and Ben Marsh for pick 5.

 

[lamby29]

Originally posted by Broadbridge_20
He's useless. He's a 5ft 11 version of Jeff White and the softest player on our list. Coming 5th in our best and fairest this year would be no huge feat but even so it would flatter him because I can only recall him playing one good game and that was against Geelong at Kardinia Park.

We won't trade him partly because we would look stupid trading him after trading for him only 10 months ago and partly because our clueless coaching staff see something in him.

1 good game? Forgetting the WCE, Fremantle, Brisbane, Port Adelaide, Collingwood, St Kilda, Carlton, Essendon, Western Bulldogs and Geelong (round 19) matches?

He is no tough nut, but he is far from the softest player on our list. He layed about 80 tackles for the season. Green and White are much, much softer than him.

You are the only person on BigFooty/Demonology/Demonland who thinks Heff is a dud!

Agree that Goodwin should be a priority though...

 

[lamby29]

Originally posted by Hosko
BWAHAHAHAHA!
would not trade jj for # 5 pick, would not trade harvey for robbo

Fair enough on JJ, but you can't be serious if you prefer Shane Harvey over Russell Robertson.

 

[superstar]

It really pains me to say it, but with our salary cap problems, I can't see both of Rawlings and Lekkas at the club next year.

So I guess Melbourne could have the chance to trade for a quality CHF/CHB or a vastly underated midfielder/goalkicker.

 

[The Shev]

Jonathon Hay + Hawthorn's 2nd round draft pick for #5. We need a quality tall defender and Hay is still young and capable. If he can refind his form then he would be great. But it is a risk taking a player who isn't in the best of form for such a high draft pick.

 

[dees 4 life]

How old is Rawlings? I really rate him and would love him to be a part of the Melbourne footy club.

 

[superstar]

Originally posted by The Shev
Jonathon Hay + Hawthorn's 2nd round draft pick for #5. We need a quality tall defender and Hay is still young and capable. If he can refind his form then he would be great. But it is a risk taking a player who isn't in the best of form for such a high draft pick.

You're joking right? Hay alone for pick 5 would not be on. Schwab said he wouldn't trade Hay for Judd - I doubt we're going to throw away an AA FUll Back.

Rawlings - we may not have a choice, but i'd rather he go than Hay.

 

[Hosko]

Fair enough on JJ, but you can't be serious if you prefer Shane Harvey over Russell Robertson.

im going on the assumption that robertson is 25?? if he is 25 or older ill stand by my comments because harvey is still very young and should be good but if robbo is younger than 25 i would take it

 

[CowboyFromHell]

Originally posted by Broadbridge_20
He's useless. He's a 5ft 11 version of Jeff White and the softest player on our list. Coming 5th in our best and fairest this year would be no huge feat but even so it would flatter him because I can only recall him playing one good game and that was against Geelong at Kardinia Park.

We won't trade him partly because we would look stupid trading him after trading for him only 10 months ago and partly because our clueless coaching staff see something in him.

I'd be making a move for Simon Goodwin with our #5 pick. The midfield lacks hardness but is not as bad as a lot of people are saying. If Thompson and Armstrong can develop into the players they should develop into all we're lacking is an enforcer. Simon Goodwin is that player. Would come a lot cheaper than any other player of his experience and skill and seems a little out of favour at the moment for whatever reason.

Goodwin, Yze, Johnstone, Thompson and Armstrong would be a deadly midfield combo. Better than the midfields of 2000 and 2002.

Stop the Heff bashing Broady, it's getting tiresome. You are as blind as a bat and stupidly stubborn when it comes to your opinion of our players.

Next you will try and tell us Green is the toughest player we have!

 

[godees]

Robbo is turning 25 in November.
There is no chance whatsoever I would trade Robbo for Harvey. Robbo has improved out of sight this year and finally played a very consistent season. He has kicked 41 goals this year (and 29 behinds - if only he was a more reliable kick at goal), and averaged 14 possessions and almost 6 marks a game (if you ignore rd22 when he was injured early).
He will finish top 5 in our B&F and he has been carrying a bad ankle for much of the season and will have surgery on it in the off season. He is a great clubman and I know i'd never trade Robbo expecially not for a 175cm brother of.

 

[Broadbridge_20]

Originally posted by lamby29
1 good game? Forgetting the WCE, Fremantle, Brisbane, Port Adelaide, Collingwood, St Kilda, Carlton, Essendon, Western Bulldogs and Geelong (round 19) matches?

He is no tough nut, but he is far from the softest player on our list. He layed about 80 tackles for the season. Green and White are much, much softer than him.

You are the only person on BigFooty/Demonology/Demonland who thinks Heff is a dud!

Agree that Goodwin should be a priority though...

I saw all our games and only in the first Geelong game did he do anything to impress me. The other games he's just been consistetly average, sitting on the outside of packs getting the easy kicks. He puts on no physical pressure at all.

I really couldn't care less what people on Demonology and Demonland think.

 

[Broadbridge_20]

Originally posted by CowboyFromHell
Stop the Heff bashing Broady, it's getting tiresome. You are as blind as a bat and stupidly stubborn when it comes to your opinion of our players.

Next you will try and tell us Green is the toughest player we have!

Green looks like ****in Godzilla compared to Heffernan.

Honestly, do you think Heffernan would get a game at the Crows or Brisbane or even Collingwood?

As long as he's in our top 3-4 midfielders we won't be playing in any finals.

 

[CowboyFromHell]

Originally posted by Broadbridge_20
Green looks like ****in Godzilla compared to Heffernan.

Honestly, do you think Heffernan would get a game at the Crows or Brisbane or even Collingwood?

As long as he's in our top 3-4 midfielders we won't be playing in any finals.

Seriously, where has this view come from? 80 tackles a year not good enough?

You are the only Melbourne supporter who believes Heffernan is soft, it doesn't make any sense. He's anything but.

 

[Broadbridge_20]

Originally posted by CowboyFromHell
Seriously, where has this view come from? 80 tackles a year not good enough?

You are the only Melbourne supporter who believes Heffernan is soft, it doesn't make any sense. He's anything but.

You don't have to be tough to lay a tackle. Joel Bowden is evidence of that.

'll take out a video of one of our games and go through it play-by-play if I have to. He is the least physical player in the competition.

 

[Yze_Magic]

broady

go watch some games from this year and watch Heff getting battered from pillar to post going in for the hard ball, while Johntsone, Yze and co. wait out for the loose ball


he aint soft

 

[Broadbridge_20]

Originally posted by Yze_Magic
watch Heff getting battered from pillar to post going in for the hard ball

I am yet to see this. Are we watching the same games?

 

[Yze_Magic]

Originally posted by Broadbridge_20
I am yet to see this. Are we watching the same games?

yeah mate

there was a game not long back, maybe when we lost to the Doggies

Heff is busting his ass while his lazy teammates stand around and do **** all

 

[Broadbridge_20]

Originally posted by Yze_Magic
yeah mate

there was a game not long back, maybe when we lost to the Doggies

Heff is busting his ass while his lazy teammates stand around and do **** all

The Dogs game was the only other game he was reasonable in.

I don't doubt the fact he tries, he's just very timid and does not apply physical pressure.

Take out the tape of the Geelong game and look at his "attempt" to spoil Chapman in the last quarter. It was pathetic. It happens all the time with him. He slows up before he hits a contest to avoid possible contact and then he pretends to make an effort.

 

[lamby29]

Originally posted by Broadbridge_20
Green looks like ****in Godzilla compared to Heffernan.

Honestly, do you think Heffernan would get a game at the Crows or Brisbane or even Collingwood?

As long as he's in our top 3-4 midfielders we won't be playing in any finals.

Why were Brisbane so interested in getting him at the end of last year then? So he could play in the reserves?

As for Adelaide and Collingwood, I am pretty sure he would get a game ahead of Andrew Williams, Matthew Lokan or Martin Mattner. There are plenty more.

He was in Essendon's Top 3-4 midfielders in 2000, as shown by him representing Australia that year.

 

[Broadbridge_20]

Originally posted by lamby29
Why were Brisbane so interested in getting him at the end of last year then? So he could play in the reserves?

He was in Essendon's Top 3-4 midfielders in 2000, as shown by him representing Australia that year.

I don't know what you remember of the 2000 season but he definitely was not in Essendons top 3 or 4 midfielders.

Stats mean little, but for a player who was so dominant as a midfielder in 2000 his numbers arent impressive.

Heffernan for Essendon in 2000:
Games Played: 21
17th at Essendon in kicks
15th at Essendon in handballs
19th at Essendon in marks

His 2001 and 2002 stats are even worse.

From what I remember of the 2000 season Joe Misiti, Jason Johnson, Adam Ramanauskas, Blake Carracella, Mark Mercuri, Michael Long, Justin Blumfield, James Hird and Mark Johnson were all more effective midfielders.

Why Brisbane went after him is anyones guess. Funilly he would probably fit in up there without being overly impressive because he'd have the strong ballwinners around him like he did at Essendon in 2000. But ask him to be a leading midfielder and he's just not upto it.