Michael Barlow vs Marc Murphy

[iGNITER]

I would take Marc Murphy over Michael Barlow at Collingwood in a heartbeat.

 

[Slattery_20]

I would prefer Barlow as well.

Murphy hasn't reached the same heights yet as Barlow this year. Unbelievable he is second favourite for the Brownlow and polling in the top few in most player of the year awards

Scary to think how good Barlow could be...

Wasn't Luke Darcy 2nd favourite one year???
Murphy polled 15 votes last year... odds are not the be-all and end-all.

Murphy's a better player having a shit year. Barlow's bigger and a bit longer kick, bit more "inside", but Murphy's quicker & a bit more flair.

 

[Majinbuu]

Now - Barlow

in a couple of years - murphy

 

[Slattery_20]

Now - Barlow

in a couple of years - murphy

LOL
End of last year, if anyone asked the question Barlow v Murphy, they'd have been laughed at.

 

[The Joker]

Marc Murphy is your dime a dozen midfielder that has been in the system for 4 years. Yes he has shown good qualities but let's not get carried away just for the sake of saying that he is a better choice over Barlow.




Oh and Champion .....yeah nah a long way off, the closest he will ever get to one sits two lockers up from him.

 

[ballanFYNE]

Well Murhpy has had the three years up on him, you'd have to pick him now, but by poetentiol in their prime i'd pick Barlow.

 

[Silvagnis]

why are people choosing Murphy as a long term prospect? you do realize they are both the same age right?, why cant Barlow improve as much as Murphy in the long term given he has even had less time in the AFL system?

Murphy is a better footballer and talent.

Barlow is shit overhead.

Couldn't outmark Simpson and Gibbs after taking front position.

Roberton hit Barlow with a perfect pass when he had front position.

Gibbs workek him under the ball and outmarked him.

Murphy jumped on Chad Cornes' head last year to take a speccy.

Liam Anthony had a similar start to his career as Barlow, yet you don't compare him to Rich.

Murphy kicked 30 goals last year.

People are goldfish...

Murphy's a better player having a shit year.

Murphy's having a shit year?

Murphy hasn't even had a full pre-season after having surgery in January.

Yet he's still smashed it.

 

[The Panther]

It is interesting because Barlow appears to be slow. When he isn't. I think his 20m sprint was 2.89 seconds at state screening. It is more his style that makes him appear slow.

He runs a bit like Dane Swan. Appears one paced but has a burst of speed that kills off opponents (i.e. Swan late 3/4 running rampant over Judd). I haven't seen that from Barlow yet & his style accumlates rather than bursts.

He is also very accountable, which is another weakness of Murphys. Murphy may have kicked 30 goals last year but he had as many conceded as like Carlton midfield, they only run one way.

Kicking lacks the penetration of Murphys but it's neater & he doesn't butcher the ball like his Carlton counterpart.

 

[Axel.]

Barlow easily.

 

[The Joker]

Murphy is a better footballer and talent.

Barlow is shit overhead.

Couldn't outmark Simpson and Gibbs after taking front position.

Roberton hit Barlow with a perfect pass when he had front position.

Gibbs workek him under the ball and outmarked him.

Murphy jumped on Chad Cornes' head last year to take a speccy.

Liam Anthony had a similar start to his career as Barlow, yet you don't compare him to Rich.

Murphy kicked 30 goals last year.

People are goldfish...

Murphy's having a shit year?

Murphy hasn't even had a full pre-season after having surgery in January.

Yet he's still smashed it.

People have been saying that about Chris Judd from day one, what difference does it make? Zero! Now 30 touches and 4 goals can make a difference.

You say people have similar starts that havent gone on, well im going to tell you there has been more talented players before Marc that promised it all (like Murphy) and gave very little.

Face facts, Barlow is now a better prospect than Marc and is showing it where it counts.

 

[ballanFYNE]

Murphy is a better footballer and talent.

Barlow is shit overhead.

Couldn't outmark Simpson and Gibbs after taking front position.

Roberton hit Barlow with a perfect pass when he had front position.

Gibbs workek him under the ball and outmarked him.

Murphy jumped on Chad Cornes' head last year to take a speccy.

Liam Anthony had a similar start to his career as Barlow, yet you don't compare him to Rich.

Murphy kicked 30 goals last year.

People are goldfish...

Murphy's having a shit year?

Murphy hasn't even had a full pre-season after having surgery in January.

Yet he's still smashed it.

Barlow should kick around 25 to 30 goals this year.
Plus Barlow gets more possies than Murphy.

 

[DrTomSwift]

So what we've learnt from this thread is Barlow and Murphy are probably about the same kicking level, Murphy's a better mark, Barlow gets more of the ball and they both score lots of goals.

Barlow is more accountable and has the better footy mind so I'd take him if I had a choice.

 

[pacemaker]

One was a 1st pick in the draft the other a rookie listed player and the ROOKIE LISTED PLAYER WINS

 

[Greg Brady]

One was a 1st pick in the draft the other a rookie listed player and the ROOKIE LISTED PLAYER WINS

Even if true, not a slur on the 1st pick in the draft, just a very large tip of the cap to the rookie listed player and Freo for finding a gem.

Make no mistake both are guns, can Barlow sustain his current form though? Want to see more of both before making a decision.

gb

 

[Hodgepodge]

Barlow is terrible overhead and can't run very fast but he has excellent arms for clearing the ball and positions very well. Goalkicker too.

 

[The Old Dark Navy's]

Geez, reactive to a great first season aren't we? A lot of players have poor second seasons once the opposition moves to shut them down. Murphy has had the number one tag as often as Judd if not more so this season. He came into the season with queries over OP to boot.

Considering Murphy is alleged to be having a shit season and Barlow is second favourite for the Brownlow, you would think Murphy is getting resoundingly beaten statistically. Disposal efficiency is similar with both having a couple of low games and a couple of high.

Possessions - Barlow 337, Murphy 304
Contested - Barlow 116, Murphy 112
Clearances - Barlow 45, Murphy 51
Tackles - Barlow 62, Murphy 57
Goals - Barlow 14, Murphy 11
Clangers - Barlow 27, Murphy 26
Dreamteam (for those that are into it) - Barlow 1317, Murphy 1224

Kick to handball ratio:

Barlow 133 - 204
Murphy 150 - 154

Inside 50 - Barlow 41, Murphy 52
Rebound 50 - Barlow 20, Murphy 17

Not a lot of stats there to indicate this huge superiority for Barlow. His season has been better, while Murph has been good, just not as good as last year. The stats are fairly close in most regards and there isn't even a lot to suggest that Barlow is far more defensive.

This whole 'better player right now' call is simplistic. Murph has been down a little the last few weeks before he was injured but still is holding up well statistically while being tagged to the shizenhousen week to week.

 

[jonoman89]

Murphy has been taking the number one tag off Judd for most of the year.

Murphy has greater pace, better disposal, better outside game.

Safely better than Barlow, but Barlow is having an amazing season.

 

[greenred]

Yes Barlow is playing better football right now but it annoys me that u bring up the comparison after Carlton have played Freo. This is becuase if murphy had played the other night the match may have gone completely different with murphy dominating instead of Barlow who may have got 10 touches and opinions may then be different. But instead Barlow has got another three brownlow votes and murphy was sitting in the grandstand with nothing he can do.

And when players are injured people easily forget how good they are eg. the ridiculous Jack vs Nick Riewoldt poll. Jack's played 12 good games, Nick 100 good games.

How does Murphy playing result in Barlow having 20 less touches (not to mention his 4 goals)? Or has Murphy degenerated that much that he's simply a tagger these days?

 

[CHIEF SMACKAHOE]

barlow is just an accumulator like a swan or stanton

flash in the pan

 

[Alpha1]

Although Barlow is on fire at the moment, I would still have Murphy at Carlton any day, still very young and is on the verge of being a superstar, long term future and plenty of upside.

 

[The Joker]

Geez, reactive to a great first season aren't we? A lot of players have poor second seasons once the opposition moves to shut them down. Murphy has had the number one tag as often as Judd if not more so this season. He came into the season with queries over OP to boot.

Considering Murphy is alleged to be having a shit season and Barlow is second favourite for the Brownlow, you would think Murphy is getting resoundingly beaten statistically. Disposal efficiency is similar with both having a couple of low games and a couple of high.

Possessions - Barlow 337, Murphy 304
Contested - Barlow 116, Murphy 112
Clearances - Barlow 45, Murphy 51
Tackles - Barlow 62, Murphy 57
Goals - Barlow 14, Murphy 11
Clangers - Barlow 27, Murphy 26
Dreamteam (for those that are into it) - Barlow 1317, Murphy 1224

Kick to handball ratio:

Barlow 133 - 204
Murphy 150 - 154

Inside 50 - Barlow 41, Murphy 52
Rebound 50 - Barlow 20, Murphy 17

Not a lot of stats there to indicate this huge superiority for Barlow. His season has been better, while Murph has been good, just not as good as last year. The stats are fairly close in most regards and there isn't even a lot to suggest that Barlow is far more defensive.

This whole 'better player right now' call is simplistic. Murph has been down a little the last few weeks before he was injured but still is holding up well statistically while being tagged to the shizenhousen week to week.

Ling tagged our man in his 4th AFL game FFS. Also Kirk, Selwood and Jones all tagged Barlow this year so far. That is some of the best run with players in the game, so please quit with that excuse as if Murphy is the only one to be tagged.

That doesnt show up in the "stats" though does it

 

[The Old Dark Navy's]

Ling tagged our man in his 4th AFL game FFS. Also Kirk, Selwood and Jones all tagged Barlow this year so far. That is some of the best run with players in the game, so please quit with that excuse as if Murphy is the only one to be tagged.

That doesnt show up in the "stats" though does it

Fine mate, carry on believing that a 12 gamer has proved himself to be superior to a player that has been doing it consistently for 3 years longer based on being slightly ahead in stats this year.

Freo is having a good year, Barlow is having a great debut season, why go over the top and make outlandish calls without seeing whether it is sustainable?

Every time a Carlton supporter talks about one of their players, we get told how much we overrate them, but this thread is considered valid?

By the way, I never said that Murphy was the only one tagged, but the fact that he has been getting the number one tag ahead of Judd of late surely speaks volumes. Then again, you probably think Barlow is better than Judd too.

 

[AG]

Barlow clearly this season but I'd take Murphy for the rest of their careers.

 

[The Joker]

Fine mate, carry on believing that a 12 gamer has proved himself to be superior to a player that has been doing it consistently for 3 years longer based on being slightly ahead in stats this year.

Freo is having a good year, Barlow is having a great debut season, why go over the top and make outlandish calls without seeing whether it is sustainable?

Every time a Carlton supporter talks about one of their players, we get told how much we overrate them, but this thread is considered valid?

By the way, I never said that Murphy was the only one tagged, but the fact that he has been getting the number one tag ahead of Judd of late surely speaks volumes. Then again, you probably think Barlow is better than Judd too.

lol, you are saying that Murphy is better than Judd because he gets tagged...Oh my no please do stop.

Murphy wasnt even in the top 15 midfielders at the start of the year and there have been a few to go past him so far this year, dont act like he is better than he is.


P.S. you pushed on the "tag" button not me.

 

[Invigoration]

Barlow easily. He is actually effective by foot and doesn't continually dive, unlike Murphy.