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I'd be wrapped with smith at 8 and hopefully someone like a prestia or maybe even a hallahan can slip to 31. This is going by YouTube, although I've seen hallahan play for the rays...shifter had atley going to us at 8, what do you guys think of him?
 
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If Gaff slides?

Would people be disappointed with Gorringe??

I can honestly say in the short term i would be, but in the long term he could be a beauty...

Really would love mids with 1st 2 picks

I'd be ropeable if we picked Gorringe. Have we not learnt from the Laycock fiasco! No ruckmen in the first round, simple as that. Most of the gun rucks around are late picks/rookie picks.
 

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Ryder is a versatile ruckman who could play at both ends. Was never pigeon holed as a permanant ruckman.

Simply put we need midfielders, take the 3 best midfielders available with our first 3 picks, simple as that. We have drafted way too many KPP in the last few years, we need to go small.
 
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I'd be wrapped with smith at 8 and hopefully someone like a prestia or maybe even a hallahan can slip to 31. This is going by YouTube, although I've seen hallahan play for the rays...shifter had atley going to us at 8, what do you guys think of him?

Yep. Either Brodie Smith or Shaun Atley at number 8 would be ideal.

Atley reminds me of Scott Pendlebury. Atley is very agile with good speed and endurance. He is a left footer who is equally adept playing as an inside or outside mid. He loves to tackle. His skills are good without being elite.
 
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I'd be ropeable if we picked Gorringe. Have we not learnt from the Laycock fiasco! No ruckmen in the first round, simple as that. Most of the gun rucks around are late picks/rookie picks.


Kruezer, NicNat, Luenberger. Drafting and the research that goes into it has changed a lot since Laycock.

Smith looks like an 18yo Myers to me, once he fills out his body could drastically alter the ways he moves. Polec on the other hand looks quality.
 
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Say what? Myers played a lot of the U/18's off the half back line, Smith plays essentially as a Watson sort of player- inside midfielder. However he'll be just that, a clearance midfielder. He would really help Watson, however would we be better at picking a bloke that can play inside and outside, well I will happily trust the club on that call. However we MUST pick a midfielder. Elite midfielders we need, lets get a Lenny Heyes type at pick 8.

S there have been a few successes with rucks..there have been more spuds selected in the first round due to the ract they are ruckmen! We can't afford to punt on a ruckman. We have Ryder and Bellchambers. Lets get a mature VFL ruckman if need be in the rookie draft to cover an injury or two.
 
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K thanks for not reading. Smith's body type looks a lot like Myers when he first came to us, i have a few concerns over what type of player he will become. Your basically saying we need another version of Myers, who you seem to rate as potentiial a grade, to help out Jobe. Are you now saying Myers is NFG?
 
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K thanks for not reading. Smith's body type looks a lot like Myers when he first came to us, i have a few concerns over what type of player he will become. Your basically saying we need another version of Myers, who you seem to rate as potentiial a grade, to help out Jobe. Are you now saying Myers is NFG?

I'd rather just get the best 3 midfielders at our first 3 picks. Just pick them up on a best available basis. If that happens to be Smith (who I have little doubts on being a very god player) then fine, if not pick the best midfielder. Pretty simple policy really. We are already too KPP heavy.

Myers has potential A Grade but it was always going to take 3-4 seasons before we see that quality, needs to develop the tank to play off the wing/centre.
 

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I'd rather just get the best 3 midfielders at our first 3 picks. Just pick them up on a best available basis. If that happens to be Smith (who I have little doubts on being a very god player) then fine, if not pick the best midfielder. Pretty simple policy really. We are already too KPP heavy.

Myers has potential A Grade but it was always going to take 3-4 seasons before we see that quality, needs to develop the tank to play off the wing/centre.

Bombers No 1

Calm down.

Most on this board concede that we will take midfielders with at least our first two picks.

Myers - I am one of the few who sees his future as a half back flanker - Not as a midfielder.
 
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We better take mids with our first 3 picks, although I'd be satisfied taking a lockdown defender to play on the Milne type forwards as one of these picks. In the unlikely event that Blayne Wilson is available at our 2nd rounder we should take him. But in my view the first 3 picks should be small. In fact in my view we should not be looking at KPP untill the rookie draft where we should take a VFL full forward or a VFL ruckman with one of our picks.

Myers I can see off a wing, but he did play well off the Half Back Flank in the last few rounds. Either one, does not matter to me.
 
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Ryder is a versatile ruckman who could play at both ends. Was never pigeon holed as a permanant ruckman.

Simply put we need midfielders, take the 3 best midfielders available with our first 3 picks, simple as that. We have drafted way too many KPP in the last few years, we need to go small.

I'd rather just get the best 3 midfielders at our first 3 picks. Just pick them up on a best available basis. If that happens to be Smith (who I have little doubts on being a very god player) then fine, if not pick the best midfielder. Pretty simple policy really. We are already too KPP heavy.

Myers has potential A Grade but it was always going to take 3-4 seasons before we see that quality, needs to develop the tank to play off the wing/centre.

We better take mids with our first 3 picks, although I'd be satisfied taking a lockdown defender to play on the Milne type forwards as one of these picks. In the unlikely event that Blayne Wilson is available at our 2nd rounder we should take him. But in my view the first 3 picks should be small. In fact in my view we should not be looking at KPP untill the rookie draft where we should take a VFL full forward or a VFL ruckman with one of our picks.

Myers I can see off a wing, but he did play well off the Half Back Flank in the last few rounds. Either one, does not matter to me.

I think we get it.
 

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I hope so, he would be an awesome get at pick 31..

Sadly though, doubt he will make it that far :eek:

I really liked his champs game in Geelong, although many thought he was down. Certainly knows where to go and move to find the ball. He had a couple of rushed kicks but is a good mover.

FWIW I also liked the look of Harper, who may be more likely to slip down the order. Good bit of mongrel about him. Gave a few bumps and did the team things.
 
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If Gaff slides?
Put it this way, I'd be rapt with any one of Smith, Polec, Atley or Gaff. I don't think we can go wrong with either one. I guess with it being likely that Polec, Atley and Gaff will go before Smith he seems the more realistic option. Not to mention he fits a big need being a pacey inside ball winner with decent skills.

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Some interesting highlights. I like Smith too. Can win his own ball, is quick and a long kick.
Yeah there's a lot to like about both of them. Polec looks very classy though, such a smooth mover. If they are both available it would be very interesting to see which way the recruiters go.
 
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I hope so, he would be an awesome get at pick 31..

Sadly though, doubt he will make it that far :eek:

There is always one that slips- Koby Stevens last year almost made it to our 2nd rounder. But you are right doubt he'll be there at 31:(
 
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FWIW I also liked the look of Harper, who may be more likely to slip down the order. Good bit of mongrel about him. Gave a few bumps and did the team things.

In all honesty, I get the feeling he is going under the radar a fair bit. Is this because he plays more forward? Who knows but from what I have seen and read, he would be a steal come 31 if he was available..

I get the feeling, our second round pick will be a highly rated player that has fallen through the cracks and will not disappoint. I just hope that our recruiting department pick best available and not, 'someone with a lot development'..

Would love someone like a Hallahan slide to our second pick, especially since he was played more forward in the latter parts of the season and in the finals also. Could he have been played injured? Who knows, but he is another player that would be a great get at 31.
 
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How good was Harper in the final under 18 champs game? Kicked like 4-5 goals in a pretty wet and miserable day in Geelong.

I noticed that Knightwheelr has Parker, Caddy and Prestia all slide to 30 (to us), 32, 33. Interesting perspective as I think he's in recruiting in some capacity?
 
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