New GamePlan - Thread Requested By Dylz48

[Dave The Man]

He has got a Yellow Card,

So he asked me to post this up:

was just wondering what everyone thought of the new gameplan we seemed to run and carry alot more using more handball then we have in previously and were in a zone unlike previous years were we have played man on man

Well it did seem espically early on in the game we went more down the guts with more Handballing, Those I still think it needs work because some of the Handballs did not hit Targets

 

[SteeleBeams]

I noticed we went straight down the guts a bit more then we usually would. That worked really well, setting up alot of our early goals, and alot of our early opportunities.

 

[Jabso]

The biggest change was the zoning from the kick out, I don't know if it's a by-product of the new rules, however we usually go man on man. We were guarding positions not players, and it really limited the leads the WCE players could make.

Let's not forget Neeld was coaching although I guess he was only running the gameday coaching and he wouldn't have planned a whole new gameplan.

 

[beez]

It's a lot easier to play with more flair and through the middle when you're playing a second string team.

 

[frantelle]

on the kick ins being at the game it was obvious we were using a full ground zone as well

 

[FIGJAM]

You need both plans.

People who sook about the flanks and kicking as a good attacking option are deluded. It's faster than the corridor.

But the corridor provides a very viable alternative, especially when under pressure in terms of zoning (which, as Jabso said, we did yesterday to tremendous effect).

 

[Jabso]

You need both plans.

People who sook about the flanks and kicking as a good attacking option are deluded. It's faster than the corridor.

But the corridor provides a very viable alternative, especially when under pressure in terms of zoning (which, as Jabso said, we did yesterday to tremendous effect).

Yeah it does my head in when people whinge and moan and say the reason we lost a certain game was because of our wide gameplan. It also won us a lot of games. Many people who can it don't offer up a reason why they think going wide is a bad plan, they just say most good footy sides go down the centre and it looks better.

There are advantages to going wide. In the modern game if you lose poession in the middle you are penalised heavy, if you do it wide you either get a throw in or the other team gets the ball and doesn't have as many options (i.e. if they're wide to the left of their goals, you know they're going to go to the right). Even when kicking into the forward line there are advantages. It opens up the entire inside 50 and gives you better angles. It's easier to kick to someone leading up the centre when you can kick it to the space in front of them, when you're in the centre and they're leading right at you, that is the hardest kick. Also when you are near the centre when going forward, you have two or three options, left right or centre. This does make the defence spread out a bit but it also can spread out your forward line and thins the packs (which means less crumbing goals). Obviously on the other hand when going inside 50 from a wide position you are more predictable, and smart loose defenders can cut off your options.

My criticism of MM's gameplan in 2008 was about how he treated loose men in defence. I have no problems with a wide gameplan. However he tended to leave the loose man in defence alone, our loose man was usually an extra halfback flanker who would go into the midfield to help out, when IMO a better option would be to match up on the loose man or have our own loose man.

 

[smiddaz123]

We have to remember this wasn't even Malthouse's gameplan that was used was it? It was the assistants.

 

[Lockyer24]

Liked the handballing through the middle and zoning in the first half.

Thught in the 2nd half we were back to bad habits of kicking wide, and only handballing if under pressure.

 

[King Woodie]

Our handball skills are poor. Players like Clarke, Fraser ,Presti, H Shaw, and Didak are terrible handballers. We would need to do a lot of work on this if we are to have a running handballing game as our game plan.

 

[Jabso]

We have to remember this wasn't even Malthouse's gameplan that was used was it? It was the assistants.

I doubt it would change the gameplan much. MM just handed the match day reigns to Neeld. Although apparently he has let the assistants run training all through Janurary.

 

[Optimax]

We have to remember this wasn't even Malthouse's gameplan that was used was it? It was the assistants.

No it was Malthouses game plan, its the one he has been instructing us to use at training

I have no doubt Neeld, Scott, brown and caracella had input but its definetly malthouses gameplan.

Like ive always said at our very best we do use the corridor, its only when we are trying to hold fort we go super wide and slow

 

[mdc]

Yeah it does my head in when people whinge and moan and say the reason we lost a certain game was because of our wide gameplan. It also won us a lot of games. Many people who can it don't offer up a reason why they think going wide is a bad plan, they just say most good footy sides go down the centre and it looks better.

Well, allow me.

When attacking along the flanks, you're perpetually reducing the available space into which you can move the ball. For an opposition team, it becomes much easier to block this space. That's why a team like Hawthorn has so much success against us - they need far fewer players to zone against a guy on the wing, as opposed to trying to zone against a player carrying through the centre.

The other disadvantage is that if we do manage to bring it up successfully, our f50 marks tend to be very wide - creating far more difficult scoring opportunities.

Now, playing wide does have some advantages - specifically, turnovers aren't as damaging and it a wide game-plan requires far less decision-making from individual players. But once the list is good enough (and I believe ours is just about there), the cost of playing wide outweighs the benefit.

 

[jimmy_clement#8]

Going to utulise pace a lot more this year. Linking handballs through the corridor, and getting the ball from the backline to the forward line as quickly as possible.

It looks good. Let's see how we go about it in the real stuff.

 

[shawthing09]

It's easy to get carried away with how well it worked against a very second string west coast line up. A better side could and probably would have made us pay more for a couple of sloppy bits of play.

I agree with MDC in that when your side is good enough using the center as gameplan A is the preffered option. I am not sure whether our side is there or not but hope we are. I also think that a plan B and wide plan is going to be needed to stop getting mauled like essendon often where for turning the ball over.

On Smiddaz point. We have been reportedly practicing a handball happy, through the center style of game all preseason. So I think it's fair to say MM had a fair bit to do with it.