MRP / Trib. Newcombe hit on Howe

[Doashuey]

The fact that anyone would try to argue a suspension for this is evidence of how conditioned the football public have become by AFL fckery to try and cover their own ar$es from potential future litigation.
I wish the footy watching public would not accept this nonsense but here we are.

 

[Oscarman]

Every Hawthorn supporter is laughing at this comment.

For the record, I think most people thought May was ridiculously stiff.

Newcombe and Howe had a head clash, and it wasn't a 'bump' from Newcombe went wrong and caused the damage.
I genuinely do not understand how he could get weeks for that. He hit him with face. Who the hell would do that if they had the chance not to?

The only reason the situation unfolded the way it did is because Newcombe is actually made of concrete.

I don't think he should be suspended but it just highlights the inconsistency in the MRO.

 

[CrowToon]

Bullshit, he doesn’t does any favours. That was a bastard act last night, andthe prick smirked as he left the field. Hawks fans in the crowd joking a laughing about it all game. What a pack of grubs.

Yeah cos Darcy Moore dropping his knees and not a sanction in sight is definitely no favour

 

[hawksalltheway]

no case


https://www.afl.com.au/news/1383572

 

[Fadge]

Stop using the internet. You're embarrassing yourself.

Solid contribution.

 

[Strapping Young Lad]

 

[Strapping Young Lad]

I don't think he should be suspended but it just highlights the inconsistency in the MRO.

It doesn’t at all, unless you think a player tackling someone is the same as someone dropping the shoulder and bumping…

They’re two completely different things, which is what the MRO have said.

 

[Lets Roar like '44]

Of course it wasn’t unreasonable. It’s all about media journos getting there 5 seconds of same.

 

[maskmcgee]

Thrown out, of course. If Melbourne fans were banned from this thread there'd probably be only about 3 posts in it.

 

[ReturningHawk]

Why does it have to be his shoulder that makes contact? He concussed the opponent who got to the ball first, whether it was with his shoulder, knee, head or arse that struck him is irrelevant.

Check out this Lachie Jones hit on Aliir Aliir. Second to the ball… he should’ve got 3 weeks.

 

[Paul Kersey]

Right call. Hope Howe pulled up ok - ball player who I enjoy watching.

 

[fake tyrone]

Good call. Looked like a genuine accident watching it live on the telly and even in slow motion it was hard to see much wrong with it. Just two footballers going at 110% and one unfortunately copping a nasty concussion.

 

[Mitchell Madness]

Last night for the first time in a long time, I heard fans applaud both players for the contest (before it was known however was knocked out)

This says all it needs

 

[hawkman]

Of course it wasn’t unreasonable. It’s all about media journos getting there 5 seconds of same.

And Melbourne fans still upset about May

 

[ThatsjustDappa]

I love these hit threads, guaranteed to be a sore Richmond supporter bringing up Stewart within the first page...

 

[Xtreme]

The right and only decision that could have been made.

 

[StackedHunch]

Magpies fans embarrassing themselves here. Wish Howe a speedy recovery.

 

[HeHateMe]

Was never a discussion, some pies fans were just emotional after a loss with a champ getting injured. Probably wouldn't have even been addressed if not for the narrative sent in by said fans.

 

[ImCheatingToWin]

Was never a discussion, some pies fans were just emotional after a loss with a champ getting injured. Probably wouldn't have even been addressed if not for the narrative sent in by said fans.

And a couple of idiot Feeo and Doggies fans making fools of themselves, using extreme mental gymnastics to try and say Newk bad must be rubbed out

 

[Jim Cricket]

This is the right call. I don't think May should have been suspended either. If May had've contacted Evans with his head would he have got off? Well, May supposedly elected to bump (I don't believe he elected that at all) whereas Newcombe elected to tackle so the two incidents aren't the same. There are problems with this.

Firstly, bumping and tackling are both within the rules and are 'fabric of the game' plays. Newcombe didn't brace for contact but apparently elected to tackle, there was a clash of heads and Howe was knocked out regardless, with Newcombe very lucky to escape with just some pain. If Newcombe had've braced, like May supposedly did, there would probably not have been a head clash, and both Newcombe and Howe might have played on.

With a bump contact usually comes from the upper arm of the bumping player, which separates the two bodies and which means there are a few extra inches between the players' heads compared with a tackle, where it's body against body. A bump is executed side on by the bumping player, which means there's still more distance between heads compared with a tackle. So which is really more dangerous? At least with a bump, generally speaking, only one player gets injured, if there's any injury at all.

What if Newcombe elected to tackle but caught Howe's head with a shoulder instead of his head? Is this more dangerous than a head clash? Jeremy Howe

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Jeremy Howe

Age

35

Ht

190cm

Wt

86kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

17.0

4star

K

11.2

4star

HB

5.7

4star

M

6.4

5star

T

2.1

4star

MG

318.1

4star

D

21.5

5star

K

16.5

5star

HB

5.0

3star

M

6.5

5star

T

2.0

3star

MG

433.3

5star

D

15.2

4star

K

9.0

4star

HB

6.2

4star

M

6.8

5star

T

1.6

4star

might not think so, heads are pretty hard objects.

 

[ferball]

Should be nothing.

But this is the AFL/MRO, so you may as well flip a coin to decide if they'll go after him, then roll a dice for week if they've decided to nail him.


Obviously Newcombe should have anticipated the contact coming in the last 0.1 seconds, by looking for nearby players instead of watching the ball, and subsequently teleported himself 3 foot to the right to prevent contact. Because that's how easy it is to avoid contact, just ask the AFL.

the fact the tribunal is telling players to avoid contact shows how broken the game is.

 

[RCAB]

That was the biggest nothing-burger ever.

You could tell by the reaction after the incident, no one even reacted. It was way different from May's hit, the Carlton players knew.

 

[Lavender Bushranger]

HAHAHAH.

AFL has reached peak idiocy.

Fair dinkum. The stupidity here is simply beyond comprehension.


So the official position from the AFL is - don't protect yourself. Take the hit to the face like Newcombe did, and just cross your fingers that you don't murder anyone in your 60s due to CTE.

But whatever you do, DON'T brace and protect yourself when a human cannonball is coming at you at full speed. Tackle. Put your head on the line and take the clash of heads like a man...but whatever you do....DO NOT protect yourself.


Honestly. This is just utterly extraordinary.

 

[RCAB]

HAHAHAH.

AFL has reached peak idiocy.

Fair dinkum. The stupidity here is simply beyond comprehension.


So the official position from the AFL is - don't protect yourself. Take the hit to the face like Newcombe did, and just cross your fingers that you don't murder anyone in your 60s due to CTE.

But whatever you do, DON'T brace and protect yourself when a human cannonball is coming at you at full speed. Tackle. Put your head on the line and take the clash of heads like a man...but whatever you do....DO NOT protect yourself.


Honestly. This is just utterly extraordinary.

Nice melt, given you wanted three weeks. Laughable.

 

[Lavender Bushranger]

Nice melt, given you wanted three weeks. Laughable.

I didn't want 3 weeks.

I assumed, based on the idiotic precedent we've seen, that that is what would happen.

But my melt has nothing to do with the decision. It's the logic that the AFL ha E given.

They're literally saying that if a May/Carlton Guy or Howe/Duke incident occurs - the players must cop it in the face and hope for the best.

Whatever happens, they must not brace and protect themselves. Leaving yourself wide open and copping it front on is what the AFL expects you to do.

It's simply unfathomable that they're telling players that they they must do what Newcombe did, and take the hit head on, rather than brace and protect yourself.


Honestly. I can't believe it.

Newcombe is lucky he's alive. Yet that is what the AFL is telling players they must do in that scenario?? Simply extraordinary.