News NMFC & Tassie (the mass debate re our future there, the academy, attending advice)

[The Warlord]

not sure making mushie tea and running round the woods in the nude is good PR for AFL Tas

Impersonating Aaron Hall's last few games for us

 

[krakouers]

Impersonating Aaron Hall's last few games for us

I’m just guessing but I’m sure Engimal v3 delivered out of the D50 better

 

[Lomas]

Adelaide"s metropolitan area is bigger than New York's city centre but if we compare metropolitan areas then Adelaide is just 3200 square kilometres compared to New Yorks metropolitan area of 34,000 sq kms.

Without getting into the difference between greater and metropolitan, can we just agree that sq km is a ridiculous way to measure a populations centres suitability for an AFL team and attractiveness to players.
You were wrong about Hobart being bigger than Geelong on any meaningful level. Stop the silly squirming for technicalities.
I think that a Tasmanian team will go well, I’m happy to have one there, but Geelong and Hobart are chalk and cheese.

 

[Colby Cheer Squad]

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I don’t particularly care about this but…..

The Google machine says otherwise and projections are even further apart.

Greater Hobart's population is 252,000 which is a little less but Hobart definitely covers a bigger area with a size of 1,700 sq km compared to Geelong's 1250 sq km.

Without getting into the difference between greater and metropolitan, can we just agree that sq km is a ridiculous way to measure a populations centres suitability for an AFL team and attractiveness to players.
You were wrong about Hobart being bigger than Geelong on any meaningful level. Stop the silly squirming for technicalities.
I think that a Tasmanian team will go well, I’m happy to have one there, but Geelong and Hobart are chalk and cheese.

Sure, Geelong has more people than Hobart, but has anyone done a head count?






I'll see myself out.

 

[TheKanga]

Never lived in Tassie.. serious question for anyone willing to respond. Would Tasmania be an attractive place for young footballers to live for their careers?

Biggest issue with Tassie is meaningful high paying employment opportunities for younger people.

Well paid footballers living their dream wouldn't have that problem.
Beautiful place to live overall.

 

[TheKanga]

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I don’t particularly care about this but…..

The Google machine says otherwise and projections are even further apart.

Hobart population definitely more than 190k more like 250k

 

[DuckYeah]

Hobart population definitely more than 190k more like 250k

So, basically the same as if you combined ballarat with traralgon?

 

[giantroo]

 

[Passmore]

So they're getting a few picks in the 20's...cool.

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[Merlin007]

So they're getting a few picks in the 20's...cool.

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the cynicism is well-warranted, but I think this is actually better for the established clubs as well as Tassie - just my view, but cutting the top of the draft off like they did for GC and GWS really hurt us - I think in the GC draft, our first pick was mid teens? and the same in 2011 with the GWS draft? People rightly criticise our drafting through the 2010s, but that didn't help

If we're going to lose someone (hopefully not Colby), I'd at least like to see Tassie pay a fair price in draft picks

 

[Lomas]

So they're getting a few picks in the 20's...cool.

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Wardlaw, McKercher and our first pick next year were our haul apparently.

 

[Merlin007]

Biggest issue with Tassie is meaningful high paying employment opportunities for younger people.

Well paid footballers living their dream wouldn't have that problem.
Beautiful place to live overall.

spot on, and as evidence, the Tassie Govt for many years has paid mainland wage rates for public employees like nurses etc in an attempt to reduce the emigration of young people

 

[Dan]

Never lived in Tassie.. serious question for anyone willing to respond. Would Tasmania be an attractive place for young footballers to live for their careers?

It’ll have its challenges for sure but not every teenager wants the bright lights and night clubs life in their spare time too.

Country lads and people that want to go there. They’ll find those types.

Also…unlike the GC & GWS beginnings…..tassie will have genuine fans and optimism from the get go all with a roofed stadium.

 

[Lomas]

spot on, and as evidence, the Tassie Govt for many years has paid mainland wage rates for public employees like nurses etc in an attempt to reduce the emigration of young people

Unfortunately they still struggle with specialist doctors and allied health, and nursing to some degree, but it is improving.

 

[DarkPhoenix]

Confirmed on front bar the "map" jumper is just for a set number of games, like a heritage jersey.
Actual kit still in the works.

 

[DarkPhoenix]

spot on, and as evidence, the Tassie Govt for many years has paid mainland wage rates for public employees like nurses etc in an attempt to reduce the emigration of young people

Yeah, this parts not correct.

Am a nurse, working in public health. We only 3 months ago got a pay rise that brought us in line with most of Australia, which will be superseded as soon as the other states renegotiate their EBAs.

It's why our nursing ranks are decimated, we're NOT getting paid to stay

 

[Mr Taswegian]

Without getting into the difference between greater and metropolitan, can we just agree that sq km is a ridiculous way to measure a populations centres suitability for an AFL team and attractiveness to players.
You were wrong about Hobart being bigger than Geelong on any meaningful level. Stop the silly squirming for technicalities.
I think that a Tasmanian team will go well, I’m happy to have one there, but Geelong and Hobart are chalk and cheese.

Fair enough

 

[Mr Taswegian]

So, basically the same as if you combined ballarat with traralgon?

Yes Hobarts greater city population is 252,000, just type in Hobart's metropolitan population on Google to find out

 

[Lomas]

Yeah, this parts not correct.

Am a nurse, working in public health. We only 3 months ago got a pay rise that brought us in line with most of Australia, which will be superseded as soon as the other states renegotiate their EBAs.

It's why our nursing ranks are decimated, we're NOT getting paid to stay

It really is shameful. Even 20 years ago there were incentives in mainland states for nurses to work and live in the non metro areas where there were work shortages.
I feel Hobart and Launceston are metro, but suffer from many of the same retention and workforce issues as rural areas.
You grow your own and it is still more financially appealing to move to the bigger cities. Then we spend a fortune on fly in fly out workforce.

 

[DarkPhoenix]

It really is shameful. Even 20 years ago there were incentives in mainland states for nurses to work and live in the non metro areas where there were work shortages.
I feel Hobart and Launceston are metro, but suffer from many of the same retention and workforce issues as rural areas.
You grow your own and it is still more financially appealing to move to the bigger cities. Then we spend a fortune on fly in fly out workforce.

Absolutely.
Even for agency nursing (basically FIFO across the entire country), places like Broken Hill etc offer 5k signing bonuses, whereas the Royal is like "We will work you hard, but we pay overtime! "

 

[Lomas]

Absolutely.
Even for agency nursing (basically FIFO across the entire country), places like Broken Hill etc offer 5k signing bonuses, whereas the Royal is like "We will work you hard, but we pay overtime! "

They expect loyalty but don’t give any in return. Even when the loyalty they could give you would ultimately give better health and funding outcomes.
I know doctors who take leave and do locum work in other rural hospitals for almost twice what they earn in the communities the live in.
This doesn’t come about from greed, they just get frustrated running departments and having locums earn more when they just want to train their own people up.
It’s a mess.

 

[DarkPhoenix]

They expect loyalty but don’t give any in return. Even when the loyalty they could give you would ultimately give better health and funding outcomes.
I know doctors who take leave and do locum work in other rural hospitals for almost twice what they earn in the communities the live in.
This doesn’t come about from greed, they just get frustrated running departments and having locums earn more when they just want to train their own people up.
It’s a mess.

Had a patient telling me today that his mate is an anaesthetist, originally from tassie, Doing his reg in QLD.
100k difference in salary, and he doesn't work as hard.
It's crazy.

 

[Lomas]

Had a patient telling me today that his mate is an anaesthetist, originally from tassie, Doing his reg in QLD.
100k difference in salary, and he doesn't work as hard.
It's crazy.

I work closely with anaethetists, and it is a common story. A qualified consultant can’t get $4k to $5k a day as a fly in fly out. And that’s in the public system.
Ultimately, and understandably, many are choosing that as a lifestyle option and work less days overall.
Tasmania has one of the best training success rates in the country for registrars, as a side point. The training rotation is really good.

 

[DarkPhoenix]

I work closely with anaethetists, and it is a common story. A qualified consultant can’t get $4k to $5k a day as a fly in fly out. And that’s in the public system.
Ultimately, and understandably, many are choosing that as a lifestyle option and work less days overall.
Tasmania has one of the best training success rates in the country for registrars, as a side point. The training rotation is really good.

Yep, our Reg's are fantastic. I enjoy working with pretty much every one of them. We've had quite a few come back to the state this year after going interstate for 2 yrs.
Locum wise, I think we were offering 5k a day at one stage last year.
But can't pay nurses their worth, to staff every other part of the patient journey.

 

[Lomas]

Yep, our Reg's are fantastic. I enjoy working with pretty much every one of them. We've had quite a few come back to the state this year after going interstate for 2 yrs.
Locum wise, I think we were offering 5k a day at one stage last year.
But can't pay nurses their worth, to staff every other part of the patient journey.

The specialist doctor cohorts, including the colleges, need to come to terms with the fact everything is better with a happy, and supported, nursing cohort. Nurse educators, specialist nursing, and nurses at every point really, are integral parts for patient outcomes and workplace satisfaction.
I imagine I’m singing to the choir, but it’s the only way to address the issues we have.